Cain: Is he through?
@MizTeacherLady (37)
United States
November 29, 2011 6:53pm CST
It seems Herman Cain is reconsidering his candidacy on the heels of allegations he had a 13 year extramarital affair. Do you think he should drop out? Do you think he is innocent of all charges as he claims? Do you think settlements paid to women who claimed he sexually harassed them are any indication of guilt? Do you think his dropping out now (if he does) is any indication of guilt? Personally, I think it is a matter of time before we know the truth for sure. I think he is guilty of all allegations. I think this is a case of "where there is smoke, there is fire." Trouble seems to follow some. I think there is a reason for that.
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@valentinesdiner (1214)
• United States
1 Dec 11
Consider two things for just a moment - -
1. 13 years! He does not refute that he did this and any refuting will undoubtedly be met by an avalanche of evidence (pictures, hotel receipts, etc.) to the contrary. You can deceive some people for a while and it will work for a while but when taht day of reckoning happens it will fall even harder on you.
2. Is winning everything? You reach a point where it is no longer about a person, or that person's ego/drive to win. It is about what you are competing for. Coach Paterno lost his job largely because the scandal and his role were larger than the job, his history or his will to win...
Cain wants to become President and the size of what he did for more than a dozen years is just too big for someone who wants the office he is going after.
Go home now and try to repair what you have already damaged in your family. My best to you and even more to Mrs. Cain.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
1 Dec 11
So far, the avalanche of evidence is 61 texts over four non-consecutive months. We don't know what nay of those texts said, there's no transcript. If there is evidence, she certainly hasn't produced it. If she never does, however, it won't matter. Thing about slinging mud is that people hear the accusations, make a decision before hearing evidence, and then it really doesn't matter if the accusations are proved false. A man's reputation is destroyed because he has political enemies and because a couple of women who need money find it's easiest to make it by telling sordid tales to TV talk show hosts.
@Chakazuluu (14)
• United States
30 Nov 11
The last one that spoke up didn't say she was raped or fondled or anything else untoward. She stated that she entered a consensual affair with her eyes open. That being the case the question I have is why is she speaking up right now. What purpose does her admission have other than hurting his chances of being elected. To me there is a conspiracy occurring here to inhibit his opportunity to be elected.
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@MizTeacherLady (37)
• United States
1 Dec 11
You are right, we have said here that she claims to have had an affair, not to have been attacked. But maybe she is compelled to talk about it because he keeps saying he has been faithful to his wife all these years. Maybe she wants to out him for lying in general. Maybe. Who knows why. But his cell phone record to her seems to corroborate her story. What faithful married man makes phone calls to a single woman at 4:00 am, and all other hours; dozens of calls?
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
1 Dec 11
The earliest call was 4:26am. But what was said? Do we know that she didn't call him and then he called her back? Do we know why he called her? The latest phone call was 7:52pm. I know... horrors, how late into the evening these lovers talked! If my phone rang at 4:20 am and I didn't get to it in time, I would probably call that person/number back, to find out why they were calling so early. I am saying that evidence of one call made early in the morning is not proof positive of anything. She is compelled to talk about it because she needs the money.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
30 Nov 11
In all honestly, I think he'd have been paying more to fight those accusations in court. The settlements were probably cheaper and easier for him in the long run, regardless if he did it or not.
Frankly, though, I don't care what goes on in the private life of a politician as long as it isn't illegal. I doubt he's giving up so easily, though.
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
30 Nov 11
Everyone keeps talking about where there is smoke there is fire maybe we should be talking about smoke and mirrors. I just don't see anyone being that crazy or dumb enough to even consider running for president if they had all these skeletons in their closet. So that brings on my new paranoid theory: maybe this was all done as a diversion? What is it we are missing while the media is putting Cain under the microscope?
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
30 Nov 11
I think he is done because he these allegations which means he is being accused of it. He did how ever pay a settlement in at least one of the cases which of course doesn't mean he was guilty as it was done out of court.
This has damaged his campaign not to say that it wasn't already a little damaged from the 9-9-9 plan getting heavily attacked and him not seeming to be able to really defend it all that well. I just don't see him being able to pull it together as having to deal with this is taking from his ability to really campaign as hard as some of the other candidates.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Nov 11
The company paid the settlement not Cain. It was likely done through insurance which was quite more common than most people realized, especially 20 years ago.
Actually, Cain's 9-9-9 plan was largely responsible for his rise in the polls. It got people thinking, hey I can actually calculate this. It was something people understood.
He might still pull it out. But there are a couple of ifs that go with that statement.
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
30 Nov 11
I was on record that I'd love to see him win the nomination well before any of the allegations came out. I hope he stays in the race.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Nov 11
I laugh in the pathetic face of anyone who holds these unfounded allegations against Cain but defended Clinton!!
But if he can't overcome these allegations, yeah, he's done.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Nov 11
Reconsidering his candidacy is probably normal at this point. He has finally gotten the full brunt of the media focused on him. It is no doubt taking a toll on his family. He is probably talking to them and finding out whether or not they want to continue the Campaign. I don't know how true or not true the allegations are. Frankly, I don't really care at this point.
Dropping out would not be an indication of guilt. What it probably means is that his family is not supportive of him staying in the race.
As far as political "smoke" goes, well let's just say there is a lot of it blowing around. It can be extremely difficult to pinpoint a source of the fire or even if there is one. There are so many rumors and innuendos rolling around that you won't probably ever know the truth.