"Palakasan and suhol" in Government Agencies
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
Philippines
December 4, 2011 9:48pm CST
Don't you just HATE IT!
Illegal influence and bribery just to get the processing of your papers, or what every you ask get done as soon as possible. I know this isn't new but most of the time, it's quite irritating knowing that they could have done better with their jobs the right way with out going through the illegal process.
I had fortunate moments where my mom had connections w/ some employees just to get our Valid ID's done. but i felt so guilty about it, why just do it myself anyways. i did, and it was a long process, but i was proud, because i didn't have to use any connection and went to the right process.
I wonder when does this illegal cycle ends
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12 responses
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
hi LK,
Ouch you hit me there I admit I do this kind of suhol or palakasan system I hate long lines if I can pay for it why not.
miss yah
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hello catch! hahaha I was referring tot he Government but that's ok i think you make a good exception (except if you start workin in the govt/.
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
hahaha! that's why I don't want to have a job in any government office even I had the chance before
@befrindwithme26 (5805)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
That's happen in the philippines secreting about it and they thought can't reveal and they do it for money!
Wow,this is another evil deeds behind, i think there is government connection who allow that to do it..
This should not be allowed,and be caught up those people who doing this!Shame...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hello Bfrindw/me, shame as it is. however, as ordinary people we can't do a damn thing about it, we try to vote those people who can do the job right but the majority prefers money and fame on the politicians.
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@befrindwithme26 (5805)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
yes agree with you.they just do it for money ,and fame..well it happens many times this country.
@mensab (4200)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
i think there are efforts to get rid of these "palakasan" and "suhol" in the government agencies. there are posters saying "anti-fixers" campaign inside and outside the offices of these agencies. i think the government is slowly addressing these problems. although there are things that have to be done, slowly we can see improvements and efficiency in the work of the government agencies.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Yes mensab, there are efforts by the government to slowly curb that palakasan and suhol system. In fact some employees in the government are now afraid of doing them, lest they get fired from their jobs.
I think, as long as the head of an agency is corrupt, the employees cannot curb themselves from being such also.
It takes a strict and straight boss to straighten his employees also.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hello mensab, that would be similar of getting rid of the fixers within the areas of DFA. well, it's hopeful in teh new administration but it needs more effort, which i know gonna take a while before it happens.I never should have agree into handling that cedula or i never would have lost my house keys
@Lhenni (1242)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Me too, wanted that to an end!
I had an experience in "suhol" too, getting a non-pro driver's license in LTO. That was 4 years ago. It's really a bad day to me then.
I wanted to get it the right way but they just fooled me! They tend to ignore my application... it's just, they are skipping my turn as my fellow there getting their license too were all finished and I'm still there waiting. The fact that I'm the first in line.
Then, someone approached me and asked for a brive money from me. They told me, I should pay for my application to get finished! Grrrr... their office will soon close and I'm there since morning... They want 2K from me. I gave them! I just got my leave that day and I treasure my time so precious that I won't like to be coming back in that gross department.
I leave the place with so much dismay!
And until now, I used to watched news exposing that rotten, corrupt, style of them still happening!
We Filipinos are really thirsty for major, major changes in our system!
I wished it happened soon...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hello there, I feel sad about your situation, due to lack of man power and salary that cause people to corrupt the applications. well, this makes me don't want to use vehicles even if i wanted to drive. we thirst for change but we lack the will and i must say i am not that optimistic.
@Lhenni (1242)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Yes, sad to accept too that we are also to blame why it happen. Like in my case, I allowed them! *pity me...
If there's no one to let them do it,.. surely, it won't prosper! But then again, it's hard to oppose or fight those prey-eater-monster with just yourself alone. We need a back-up help from those helping group that's really doing hard for a major-major change in our system.
I'm just hope that they won't be tired in doing so!
For now, I don't know how to be of help. I'm vigilant, yes!.. just vigilant!
I hope someday soon, I can be of help not just by being vigilant only *sigh...
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
I don't employ fixers, I fix things my self and I think it's our right to demand good service from government especially if we are tax payers, well system in our city is quite good and efficient but I think in the Philippines, it's really an advantage if you know somebody from an office personally without necessarily resorting to "suhol" or bribe
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
Hello Louievill, Definitely we have that right. well, as for my passport we had a travelling agency and a liaison who helped me handled my passport. my mom doesn't know any one but she knows an agency who could do it for us, though it's been years not sure who she could trust herself to have my passport taken care of.
@post2sawa (88)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Well this thing wont stop until there were people who were patronizing this illegal fixers. As long as there were people who is willing to pay for them to have a hassle free transactions, those who don't want to be in a long lane for long hrs and instead chooses to pay fixers for their processing.
IF we really wanted this to stop, we should start it with our self it is our big contribution to the government by fully following the system and not patronizing those fixers.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Hello Post2sawa, Probably these people are friends and family members of theirs that allows them to conduct business and then showing off some other people that they are legal and can be trusted. till this day there are still fixers. I wish because i know in reality that it couldn't be stop
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
8 Mar 12
these two are not really new. i can also recall how my father was always the name to tell when someone from the neighborhood had to go to the capitol so settle some of their problems. i am even a product of the "palakasan" system. when my auntie had nearly in her retirement year, she told me to approach the regional prosecutor, which then looked for the position i am holding right now. but not all things done with influence and bribes are bad. connections with the government are not always bad. so as grease money, could not be bad all the time.
read this: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-grease-money.htm
moreover, not all in the government service is corrupt. and you can count me in with that.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
8 Mar 12
the things you mentioned are not limited to the public sector, they are as common in the private sector it's just that people deal with public offices more often and most of the time people are put in situation to ask for favor especially if there's time constraint and that is the breeding ground for corruption. Although we can put most of the blame on those employees, part of the blame goes to the very people who patronizes these acts as well. It's bad if you're caught but in reality people feel good if they can get ahead of the line, get things done ahead of time due to their connections, feel guilty maybe, but then again that's the reality.
@greenpeas (998)
• Philippines
8 Dec 11
The illegal cycle only ends when we as a people will stop tolerating these evil and say enough is enough.
Stop giving bribes. Instead, we should report these scums who are getting paid with our tax money yet shamelessly uses their positions to extort and steal money from hardworking Filipinos.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Of course, it's hateful, but nobody wants to change the system, especially the people in the system becuase they benefit from all the 'suhol' and the 'tips'.
I'm not generalizing all governemnt employees but somebody does walk home with a little more in their pockets (and with a whopping Christmas bonus this year).
I am not a regular at the city hall or other government agencies but I heard enough stories to make my hair curl (and mine's straight) So far, I heard complaints of missing paperwork, new documents or documents with payment that were free before. Others complain of high payment fees or 'high speed transaction fees' - pay a little more for a little faster processing - that don't deliver.
My tita is like your mother - she also has friends in the city hall. And there have been too many times when she asked for favors since the system takes too long to process. I wonder if the governemnt even have quality control like the private companies do.
I would like to think that each person benefits from the payments and all the money crap. But that's wishing thinking. I guess when dealing with a governemnt and all its agencies, corruption has a consistent factor and presence.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hello Jeanne, I think so if you're in the Government and you have gotten used to doing illegal acts with out being caught i believe they will stick to it until an investigation is in place. they will either resign or simply stop then doing it again once the media has stop poking on their noses
@ralphs (209)
• Philippines
9 Dec 11
yes i hate it but also my parents do it because the line in the government agencies like sss, gsis, embassy, philhealth, NBI, LTO, LTFRB, and also the longest line is DFA and other agencies that we need to have a clearance is so long, and i think and its a fact that in terms of standing in the line with so many people and not fully ventilated area you will have a headache because of that, so other people will go to the fixers so they will not stay on the overheated surrounding line of hell and have a merienda in the carinderia with electric fan because the fixer will do the rest but you must give a certain amount of money for their efforts but a lot of fixers will not help you some of them are bogus they will only get your money then run and you will realize that if you do the process legally you will finish it and you will proud of yourself, but many Filipinos are using and have talked to the fixer for fast transaction they talked the fixer every now and then that is so disappointing.
@zuzaki68 (16)
•
5 Dec 11
LETRANKNIGHT25 nice one sir! i think you are Filipino like me :) haha Many people here in Philippines are the ones who made "PALAKASAN"!! if you are applicant and try to apply in different companies here in this country and one of your relative are in that company, and BINGO! you are in in that company!! God people always do it here in this country!! i hate those people who made PALAKASAN!!!! and the thing is when it comes to SUHOL jeez!!! they are rushing there valid ID's and paying for fixers to get the ID's in a day or in 5hours! God !!!!!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Hello Zuzaki, Don't trust the fixers, if there is a best way to get it done is that you do it as early as possible.I hate those guys who are selfish and only concern for their own survival. though am not generalizing every one, it's just that most of the officials are corrupt and has really put a pain on the tax payers