My friend chose to abort her baby

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@enelym001 (8322)
Philippines
December 5, 2011 6:38am CST
The recent abortion controversy of Rhian Ramos reminded me of what happened with a friend of mine years ago. My friend got pregnant (one month) and her boyfriend doesn't want to take responsibility on what happened. Their relationship is a little complicated so I won’t go into details. He gave her a tablet to take and said it will make her bleed and lose the baby. I’ve encourage her not to do what her BF says, break up with him and keep the baby. But she was just crying day and night and so confused. I tried saying every word to comfort her and to give the baby a chance to live. One day I saw her bed full of blood and when I asked her… well I was so disappointed to learn that she took the tablet. So much blood was in the room everyday and she was so weak, all we could do is to just help her clean the mess and give her food. It was one of the most unforgettable experiences I have encountered and scariest one coz I’ve witnessed how she bleeds even when she was just sitting. I hated her colleagues and boyfriend for encouraging her that losing the baby is a good option. But everything happened already and it has been 3 years now. Rhian Ramos was said to choose her career rather than keeping the baby. My friend chose to do it because they’re in a complicated situation. Would you do the same and go for abortion if you’re trapped in a complicated situation? Would you push your girl or stop her from aborting the baby?
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@smc1983 (23)
• United States
5 Dec 11
I am so sorry to hear about your friend's choice. It's sad when life brings us to this point. Me, personally? I could not do it. I'd find a way to make things work. I do not agree in pushing her or stopping her, though. It's her decision, shes the one who has to live with the decision she makes. Now I'm not saying I agree or condone abortion, please do not misunderstand me. I'm saying you can not dictate over a person's life, just because you do not agree with their decision's. It's her body, her choice. All you can do is be a good friend (just like you were to yours), comfort her, be available for her, and try to show her that abortion is not the only answer. This is a very hard subject to speak on. So many people feel so intense on it, and get upset when others express their opinions. I've known women who have had abortions. I did not agree with why they aborted, but I did understand their reasons. One, for example aborted because she would be risking her life and the child if she continued the pregnancy. If she carried the child successfully, there was risk of it having a very painful disorder. This disorder would cause the child to suffer. In her mind, her decision was out of love. Love for her family she already had (she did not wanna die and leave her husband/children she already had). She spent time praying and talking to her pastor, and then decided she could not bear bringing this child into the world to suffer.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hi smc, I'm saying you can not dictate over a person's life, just because you do not agree with their decision's. It's her body, her choice. That is absolutely true. I know that no matter how I forced her to listen to me and other friends. It is still her decision. We, as friends should be by her side and try to guide her only and not pressure her on doing something. Her boyfriend should be the one with her on that time, but those were the darkest day of her life. I know that she doesn't wanna do it but resorted into doing it because of her boyfriend. Going to the hospital is not a good option at that time (long and complicated story) or else she will be put in more trouble - that is why her boyfriend asked her to do it by taking that pill. It is also true that some do it because of good reasons like the one you said. That was such a sad story, I feel that the mom never wants to do that but there's n other option but to do it instead of leaving behind her family that still needs her. Thank you for sharing your opinion.
• United States
5 Dec 11
I think I might've misunderstood your question. I apologize. Her boyfriend should've been more supportive, and he should've helped your friend try to find ways to make it work out (not just to pop a pill to solve the situation, no matter how complicated their relationship was). I've read the responses to your discussion. I agree, don't do the deed, if your not ready for the responsibility. I also agree, if this was her final decision, she should've sought out professional, medical help. This method was very dangerous. Now above is just my opinion, and I'm not judging anyone.
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@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
7 Dec 11
I had thoughts of having an abortion 22 years ago. I was in a bad relationship and I had gottan pregnant. At first I wanted to get an abortion and get on with my life. It never happened and I am glad I never went through it! I had the baby,a boy, and gave him up for adoption. I know now I would of regretted having an abortion and would of never forgiven myself! I am proud of what I did! I wish more woman would do what I did!
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
It's really nice to know that there are still lots of woman, despite being very confused about things, knows what is the right thing to do. I am glad to hear your story on this and happy with what you did
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Dec 11
enelym...this is absolutely one topic, that I refuse to discuss and take any form of stand on! To me, it is a very "personal" issue...! Love your picture, dear lady! Sorry, I am such a downer on this topic--but it is such a circumstantial topic!
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
5 Dec 11
I 100% agree with my dear pergammano But I am against that abortion thing for anyone anywhere. I do believe, I am no God to decide on something like this one. He gives life and He takes care how that Life survives.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hi perga I understand.. it's really tough if everyone was put into this situation. Sometimes it feel easy to say that we won't do such thing but maybe when faced with it and we ourselves our on their shoes, we might be confused as well... and choose a decision we might regret. Thanks for lovin' the pic Good day to you dear perga.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
that is true sids, we cannot take someone's life just like that.. although we have to just understand how people resorted to do this thing.
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@dong88 (795)
• China
5 Dec 11
Hello! Your friend abortion,she has her difficulty,things have happened,really feel sorry. I'm not in favor of abortion. I think that is the god give a our children,once pregnant,give the baby was born. Wish you of friend!
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Hi dong88, Thanks for your response. Yes they should be responsible and treat it as a gift from God.
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• India
6 Dec 11
Here in my country the case of abortion is very common when there is a girl child. These guys do some scans and find out if it is a girl or boy and then abort the girl. They just want baby boys, I don't know why the heck.
• India
6 Dec 11
well it is not mostly in high societies but it is very common in rural areas of the country.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Aha really, OMG.. and for what reason they're doing that? poor baby boys why aren't they given the chance to see the world
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Huh?!? Never heard of that. Your country is India, right? But I have friends from India, they have sisters who have baby boys. They didn't abort them and they were well-loved too.
@cearn25 (3456)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Since I am a pro to life, I choose to keep the baby. I don't want to commit sin. I will take the responsibility as a mother. For me it is a blessing from God although I didn't expect it to happen. I know it would be a big sacrifice for myself because I will not be able to have the attention to myself anymore. My life belongs to the baby already.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Hello cearn25, You're very responsible and mature enough to think like that
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• United States
6 Dec 11
I would plan a abortion the minute the doctor said the P in pregnant. I never wanted children so the only two reasons I got pregnant are the birth control failed or I was raped. Either way I rather abort the child than Ever go through childbirth. And if I couldn't abort the child , I would kill myself and "it". I would Never , Ever tell or suggest any woman have an abortion. It is her s=choice , period. Her life can be ruined if she does one thing when he Needed to do the other. I mean if she always wanted a baby but aborts it, she will be ruined and if she Never wanted a child but is forced to have one , she will be ruined. A true friend just listens to a pregenant friend, does not judge. It is her choice! And whatever She chooses a true friend is there to support her.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Hi sarahrubeth, I understand what you mean on that. As a friend who is concerned about her confusion, and who asked for our opinion.. We gave our views on it instead of just not talking to her or suggesting anything. She was asking everyone of us what she has to do because she cannot think right at those times. She was confused why her boyfriend wanted to have the baby aborted when she really wants so bad to have a baby (she thinks she was in her right age that time to have a baby and she was praying to have one before that incident happens) So we thought and I thought it is best to encourage her to keep the baby. But then again, as you said, in the end it will be her choice - whatever she has in mind that time, she has decided it. We respected her for that. And we stood by her even when she regretted it after weeks and months of doing it.
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• United States
6 Dec 11
She should have kept the baby and left him. She is the woman I was writing about! To abort a child you want is so wrong. All I hope is that she can forgive herself and find a guy who Wants kids with her. I'm assuming she not 50 yet! Then there is hope. I hope she gets the chance to have as many kids she wants. I'm prying. Is she still with the same boyfriend?
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Uhmm yeah kinda. They've got another kid 'though and I'm glad they didn't do the same thing to their second kid. "Though things are still complicated with them.
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
19 Dec 11
Perhaps what brought her to deciding that way was the fact that their relationship was complicated. You didn't really want to go into full details so perhaps that's really why it happened. I know that sometimes when we're confused we do stupid things. I just hope that her boyfriend was all worth it. Anyhow, if I were in that situation, I would probably react differently. I would have probably kept the baby because I want a baby. I am now in a situation wherein I could support the baby on my own - which makes deciding much easier compared to her situation, I guess. Have you asked her about her regrets?
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
19 Dec 11
Oh, knowing that she regretted is really sad. Are they still together with the guy? I would have left him because of his cowardice. This only shows that he's only in the relationship according to his terms. Not a good start if you want to be with the person till you grow old.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
19 Dec 11
Of course she did regret what she did and was crying the whole time for months. And even came into thoughts that God would never give her another baby. Or that she will never be forgiven by God. I am one of those who knows that she wanted to have a baby but because of some hindrances she was forced to abort it. Thanks for your response.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
22 Dec 11
Still with him... and their relationship is still complicated. But she has gotten used to it. Btw, after everything that has happened, she was really loved by God ans was gifted another baby from him the same year the abortion happened.
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• United States
6 Dec 11
Most situations are complicated in which one may consider abortion. It all depends on things at the time. I do not agree or disagree with the legality of it. What I do think is that there should be safe options out there should a Woman choose to do so.
• United States
6 Dec 11
Why would going to a hospital or clinic put her in bigger trouble? With family? her job? They have the abortion pill here as well as being referred to a clinic or Dr who will handle things.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Hi 3SB, I also wish there were other options for her; but going to a clinic or hospital would put her in bigger trouble. Some girls however, in other countries, goes to a "clinic" to remove the baby out of their womb.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
Her job and responsibility are some of it. But there's a bigger thing which I think I wouldn't discuss here anymore. Not about the guy having a family already, he's single 'though the guys parents don't like her, but there is something more to that.
@hgwyneth (120)
• Philippines
13 Dec 11
There are mistakes we commit in our life existence. As teens or still young to take responsibilities, we tend to do the things not appropriate just to escape from the consequences of that mistakes. We can't judge them for doing such. If we'll put ourselves on their shoes where many people have higher expectations and you are still not bold enough to face what will they say, what will you do then? It's wrong, we know. But, perhaps, if they only have the courage to face the consequences of their love, then probably, it didn't happen. For me myself, I didn't know what to do, if I'm on the same situation...
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@hgwyneth (120)
• Philippines
13 Dec 11
That's the awful thing enelym...your friend's bf didn't love your friend really. He has just took advantage of her. That is wrong with most of the guys. When the girl fell for them, they will take advantage of women's weakness. That's why, now that I'm a parent already, I will ensure that my daughters will be careful in choosing the right guy for them. Don't easily give in to man's desire heheh
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
13 Dec 11
That is true, But I am also confused about their relationship. She says he told him how he loves him. But the fact that he didn't took responsibility is something we could end up thinking that maybe he just doesn't care.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
13 Dec 11
Hi hgwyneth, That is really true, there is no one who have never committed any mistake. In fact, there'd be one too many mistakes. We often choose the wrong decisions. And too late we realized we have something we regret. But what's good was we eventually learn from those mistakes and try to make up by doing what's right the next time it happened again. What's sad about this is both are not teen anymore. The guy is just coward because the parents don't like my friend for him.
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@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
6 Dec 11
I Am not one for abortion in this day an age is not necessary there are too many ways not to get pregnant[even in the old days there were ways]so in modern days why any one with a sense of morality and responsible would chose to get pregnant? I know things can happen by accident. Now about your friend if she is trapped in a complicated situation[relationship] she is better off without this relationship because in the long run it will ruin her...complicated situations/relationship never solve them selves unless there is a sense of responsability and love involved. Now to answer you question I would never push any one to do any thing after all is their choice and they have to live with it!
@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
7 Dec 11
Oh... I just don't understand your friend! why get pregnant on purpose and then get rid of it like discarding a piece of chewing gum when the flavour wore off?
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Yes there are lots of ways for couple's to use, but polaroidsredwine have clearly said what things could happen why ladies still got pregnant even with the use of those. But one thing is that, she admitted never to use any protection - because she really wants to get pregnant...
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
Their relationship is really complicated. One is hopeful, the other is irresponsible and coward. The one who loves more agreed with the irresponsible one.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
6 Dec 11
I might tell her I thought it was wrong, but I don't think I'd push her. Why bother? Is she going to listen to anyone else? Likely not. My wish would be that more girls grasp the idea that a boyfriend is not a husband. "boys" are not adults, and nor are they going to act like adults. Stop wishing your "BOY" friend would take responsibility when he never promised to. That's what marriage is, a promise to take responsibility. You hop in bed with a 'boy' and then are shocked that he doesn't want to deal with the consequences. Stop doing that. Stay out of the bed, until you are married. That's the reason Marriage was created. You break that system, and then are shocked it doesn't work out.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Sometimes marriage is not the only solution if one person decides to do that thing with her boyfriend. There are some who lives in together and it still worked out. Until they finally decides to get married after years of living in together. I am not saying this is a good thing, but what I was saying is that we will be able to know who's real and who will be with us if we are put into such bad situation. In her case, if I was her, I would never listen to the guy. And I would never hopped in a bed with a boyfriend whom I know will never be there for me when something like that happens. WHo am I to know? But just to be cautious about the consequences I'd have to be careful. But we cannot blame girls like that. Not everyone is lucky to have a boyfriend that is responsible. Sometimes, even married couples end up being sour at each other.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
I am glad to say that my relationship with my boyfriend who's working now in a different country is already over that 3 years period. Of course who would want a broken family and bad relationship? I am just citing the examples I've seen. Whether they were married or unmarried. I don't think I am in the position to judge them of not getting married with their boyfriends. This is not about saying what's right and wrong. Even those who have been in a long courtship and long bf/gf relationship who eventually gets married can have a bad relationship.
@Graceekwenx (3160)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hi Enelym! Woah!!! Is there any truth about Rhian Ramos' abortion??? If it is true, all i could say is awwwwwww... to consider that i liked Rhian a lot... btw, who is the father of the kid? If ever i get pregnant and have a problem with the father of the kid, i dont think i could have the heart to abort the baby. I have observed that the single moms have always been tough and strong and we have a lot to admire them for that. They too had been in that position wherein they would have to decide to keep the baby or not. I have heard that those who have had abortions suffered guilt all their life. Abortion should never be an option, i wished they had other choices.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
5 Dec 11
Hi Graceekwenx, The guy is DJ Moe Twister. Not sure about it but I saw her crying on TV and filing a case against Moe. That's what I also noticed. Single moms are smarter and braver. Maybe because the experience they went through has taught how to be strong, for her self and for her kids. They can have other choices, but they chose to abort it still. It's kinda sad.
• Philippines
8 Dec 11
shh.. that MOE.. I admired Rhian Ramos this is the first time I heard Rhian Ramos Controversy.. especially ABORTION, I hate Anti LIFE. i wont dwell in RHIAN RAMOS..since i like her..:D I am A Pro LIFE Artist, I CHOOSE LIFE and Choose to TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY with this PROBLEM.. its really bad damn decision to CHOOSE ABORTION. PS By the way IAM a SURIVOR of ABORTION..and Mother felt really Sorry for it even i SURVIVED..I THINK The GUILT will be more WORST than ever..hey its my first time sharing this to strangers. so lets keep it a secret.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
8 Dec 11
@Konrad, OMG, I am as well a survivor of abortion. When I first heard about it (they told me when I'm already in college) I really felt sad, and I was just holding back my tears. I made a joke out of it, so they won't feel that I was hurt with that revelation.
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
This is a sad ,scary stories for your friends..Interesting happening,and even you ,scared whats going in there..And even i read your post,its kind a scary because the woman affected by taking the tablets to kill that baby inside of here womb..That is a living soul,killed by using that tablets..Guilty for doing that,and shame...The faults are both of them guilty for doing it...They will face that situation hardly since they are decided to do what they want and even it ruines their life..That is a great lesson for young people today,that they should think wise before making a boyfriend,relationship because they are too young to doing it and not in the right time..i that situation, i will say to stop abort,keep the baby alive no matters what circumstances comes..
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• Philippines
7 Dec 11
I think true ,we cant control what their decision.But if yo give advise good to them and they did not listen to you,well they will face it and not us,..Because we are not over them control but as long as you give good advices..
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
yup, as a friend we sometimes needs to give a few advise especially when asked by them. If our opinions doesn't matter to them, I have also learned that listening is the best we can do to.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
Hi befriend, It's really difficult when once is faced with this kind of situation. We cannot judge them and cannot force them because they are the one responsible and will always have the decision for this.
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
7 Dec 11
Personally it is a woman's choice to choose, and it should really be her choice, as she is the one who has to live with it for the rest of her life. I could have never done it. It is bad enough having miscarriages and always thinking what if. But personally sometimes I wish there were better alternatives out there for women to think about instead of abortion. If more people could just learn to hold on and wait it out there would be a lot less controversy later on for sure.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
Hi KrauseHome, I agree with you. It's the woman's choice. That is one thing she didn't fight for. If women won't let themselves be part of complicated relationships and hold on some more like you said, they will never really have to go through this thing. Thanks for your nice response.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
7 Dec 11
Hi... I'd rather let the baby live.. If I've means to raise it properly then I'd take it on my own or else give it to the people who crave for a baby, who have a lot of money and just want a child in their family... Abortion isn't an answer... I feel sorry for your friend...
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
That's a really good decision you would made if you're put into this kind of situation. Yes, a lot... even one of our common friend too wishes to have a baby for a long time. She was married for about 2 years that time but not getting pregnant. So we're really sad about it.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
7 Dec 11
I think that your friend took the abortion pill that works up to 9 weeks pregnant. I believe that she was feeling extra emotional due to the pregnancy hormones. As she was crying day and night she needed loving support because she was depressed. If I was in a complicated relationship and I got pregnant I would keep my baby. I would split up with a boyfriend if he was trying to put pressure on me to have an abortion. If I got pregnant in an attack from a stranger I think I would let my baby be born but choose adoption. I would give my baby a chance to live.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
Hi maximax8, That's what we're trying to tell her. But she loved him so much and believes in him. And we respected her decision. Thanks for your response and I am glad that you are very smart to chose the right things.
• Algeria
7 Dec 11
this is just an ordinary case in country where abortion is legal. in catholic dominant country like philippines this belongs to heinous crime. they did not value life. so sad...
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• United States
7 Dec 11
And do you know what happens in places where abortions is illegal? People who get pregnant will get illegal abortions. Tens of thousands of those people die because of how unsafe they are, and most of the time they end up dying in horribly painful ways, slowly bleeding out, because they couldn't have done in a clean, professional way. Allowing legal abortions is a far better thing than illegal ones.
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• Philippines
7 Dec 11
If the girl is as pretty as you are, I would rather kill myself than to ask you to take the medicine. I want to have babies who will be as pretty as you are. Bwahaha! Peace y'all!
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
So the baby will live but the father will die, not a good option Goodluck on your search for a pretty mom to your babies
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
It is really sad to know that there are people who do stuffs and do not stand the consequences of their actions. If it was me, I would not do the same since I did that thing, I will live with it. But even though this is my stand, I will not blame the people doing these things. They have their own minds. Whatever decision they make, I know they can stand for it.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
8 Dec 11
Hi joylyn, Glad to know you're one of those who can never do such a thing to an angel We have our own mind that's true, and whatever the reason for doing such thing, I hope they would realizing something from it.