Pressured to suceed?
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
United States
December 5, 2011 6:20pm CST
Did you have the type of parents/ guardians that focused on success in Everything? Or did you have parents/ guardians who wanted you to just do your best? I saw two shows/ movies that showed how too much pressure to succeed can have tragic or even the opposite results. I saw a mom and dad who teach their sons , winning and being the best is key. The more the pressure , the better the result. Their sons can not play team sports because the sons Must stand out so they can succeed. On the otherhand , I saw a family who unschool their kids . The kids get to choose what they want to study and then they do their best at it! The kids who were being pressured were getting frustrated while the other kids were happy and curious.Who will be more of a success? Who knows! All I do know is that too much pressure can make a child do the unthinkable, commit suicide. There is a happy balance. I had it. I was told school was my job. As long as I went to school I was succeeding. But I wasn't forced to study any subject I couldn't do. Now I am not pressured to be Anything save myself! How about you? Were you pressured to succeed? Are you in the profession your parents saw you doing? Or are you like me, following your own path?
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@periwinklez (138)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
My parents were not hard on us or forced us to succeed and be someone we can't. They only want us to finish school because it assures them of our future. That we won't grow beggars or helpless. Being academically good is already a bonus for their hardworks and that's how I show them my appreciation and make them proud of me. I think they trained us to be independent. My only complain is that they didn't approve of the college course i wanted to take (job is too risky and life threatening oh my!) and also for not allowing me to enter a renowned and one of the top universities just because of the distance (i'm sickly so my body can't sustain frequent long distance commute urgh!). I regret for not fighting for it because I might have a very successful career now. But fretting and looking back will be of no help, instead i focus on what's in my hands now, the PRESENT, a gift I should appreciate. :)
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Dec 11
Can you take online classes at the university? That way you are home But still going to the school. if not keep having more good days.
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@periwinklez (138)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
Nope. The course I want requires presence and hands-on training. I'm looking for other short course that might interest me or give way to find my passion. :) That's the best thing I can do, to enjoy.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
6 Dec 11
no I had a family that told me I would not amount to anything, and I was a woman so it was a joke for me to want a university education, I would get married and wash diapers.
I would never do that to anyone else, that is the best way to have depressed kids with low self-esteem who think they are just not good enough or as good as anyone else. It is a recipe for disaster.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
6 Dec 11
despite all that I did pretty well, not as well as I would have liked because I didnt leave my comfort zone but I did well coming from that upbringing.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Dec 11
So ironic. My mom said I could be Anything I wanted and I thought Why do I have to Be anything? It wasn't my mom but my " good" school that made me think Exactly how you were told you would be, useless.
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@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
6 Dec 11
Hello Sarah... I've had the pressured childhood. My family never tolerated failures. Just passing was not enough. They wanted me to be the best in everything. They wanted me to study all the time and they wanted me to be a Doctor. Playing outdoor games was forbidden or rationed.
I wanted to study Psychology in college, but my parents hated it. They wanted and made me to pursue Science and Maths only. I hated Maths. I studied what I did not like. It was my mistake too, as I did not insist on doing what I liked.
I am a failure today, as I could not become what I wanted nor what they wanted.... :-(
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Dec 11
They failed , Not you. They thought all this pressure was going to make you be what they wanted and it didn't. I know it will be hard or expensive but you Still study Psychology! That way you can be a psychiatrist, That is a doctor!
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@aprilsong (1884)
• China
6 Dec 11
It is understandable that parents all have high expectation on their kids. The problem is that some parents know how to make their kids success, while others don't know the right way.
Parents sometimes put what they failed when they are young on their kids, wish their kids can fulfill the upper generation's uncompleted wish. So they let their kids study this, and that, put so much pressure on their kids. They just forget that kids are kids, they need time to play and to enjoy their childhood. They forget how they spend their childhood.
It is right that too much pressure can cause tragedies. Actually, one girl killed herself because she failed to enter the best university. She has been expected by her parents to go to the best university of the country, of course she also had that wish too. In fact, because of her parents' high pressure, she didn't accept any other universities. Well, it seems absurd. Because her score is already very high, even she can't go to the best university, she can go to other good universities, there are too many good ones. Wish such tragedies won't happen any more, wish parents know what is really important for their kids, happy or the so called success?
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Dec 11
I totally agree. It wasn;t until I was in my 20's that I found out my mom didn't graduate highschool. That is why she told me I Had to graduate highschool. And I did! Thankfully all the rest was up to me.
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
6 Dec 11
If there is any pressure on me it's self inflicted. My parents just wanted us to be good people. They taught us that it wasn't what you had...but what kind of person you were. They were giving to those who needed it....lent a hand when they could and treasured us beyond life itself...they were wonderful. I do strive to succeed because it's what I want.....not what anyone else does.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Dec 11
I think I would be a better person if I hadn't gone to public school. I'm nice but not Too nice!My mom was a very good person , my dad too.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Dec 11
So you were suppose to be an genius all alone? Wow!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
8 Dec 11
I wasn't pressured when I was younger either..I do that to myself..lol. If I had had someone else pressuring me, I don't know what kind of adult I would have become...if I became one at all. I son't think pressure is the way to go...support..yes..pressure..no. If my girls signed up for a sport or something, I expected them to finish that particular season but if they didn't want to do it again, I left that up to them.
I do follow my own path and I'm not sure what my family saw me doing when I grew up..hmm...I wonder.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
8 Dec 11
People outside the family saw me as a teacher.My mom Never told me what she wanted me to be. But that backfired. Since she didn't tell me, I thought being nothing was my future. Did I need pressure? No. But I guess if we could have talked about the future a little I could have seen a future. Who knows.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
10 Dec 11
Yes..I think discussing the future is important. I let the girls do most of the discussing..with a little guidance. I don't really remember talking to my grandparents about a serious plan when I was little. The thing is that sometimes the most well planned futures are not what life has in store for us anyway..lol.
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@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
7 Dec 11
My parents never were supported me when it was with school,what I wanted to do in life. They never thought me life lessons. The things I did learn was hard work,because I grew up on a farm. I also learnt to be on time for appointments and other things because my mom was always late to everything! Thanks to not being nurtured I had a heck of a time catching up with other people my age! I hope when my dad passes alot of what he did not do for me is lifted off my shoulders and I can have peace of mind! Finally!
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Dec 11
I'm so sorry. I hope you can get some peace sooner more than later.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
12 Dec 11
I didn't think my parents pressured me, but I did see their support that made me want to succeed all the time. They didn't say it, but they provided me with whatever I needed, including their time. I drew the conclusion to succeed, myself. That's why I easily get frustrated now when things don't go my way.
I try not to pressure my kids, but they always hear about stories when I was young. And when I would excel in the few things I did.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
12 Dec 11
Wow. I wasn't pressured either so when I Knew I couldn't do Anything , I didn't even try it. If I ever got frustrated I usually stopped and Never tried whatever again.
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
8 Dec 11
I see the reflection in the mirror. LOL. Well, I was never pressured to have to be the best. I was just told to do good in school and to do my best. Look, I am not scholar, but I think I did okay. The only down side to that approach it the drive. I had no drive. Now I understand the other side, where the children are pressured to be the best and anything less would be failure. That, of course is devastating to a child. But, they do come out with a certain drive and need. There is a happy medium in there somewhere. I always tell my kids, look, stay in school and learn, be excited about things, but I never tell them they have to or else. And, one more note, most of your millionaires in the world today, were drop outs themselves.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
8 Dec 11
I bet the reason is because they couldn't be put in a box or catagory . Or they asked why way too many times .
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
10 Dec 11
Hopefully they will get to do what they Want to do.
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
10 Dec 11
Well, isn't that the way it always is anyway? You're right, none of them could be put into a category at all. They all thought outside the box. That is what I try to instill in my children, think outside the box. That was one of the problems when I was growing up, I was always told, you can't do this, you can't do that, or that's impossible. The old timers had limited thinking. So, I was groomed to be a worker. But I want my kids to think outside of what society says is normal. Look, I am also realistic, and I do want my kids to get an education, because if their dreams cannot be achieved, then they do need to fall back on something. But, restriction is a very bad thing.
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@changjiangzhibin89 (16760)
• China
7 Dec 11
I differ with the Mom and Dad who told their son that winning and being the best is key.Sound as if their son could do anything well .Different people, different talent,some may become artists,others become actors,writers and so on.Some people didn't cut out for something, much less winning and being the best.But then,even though you are suitable to some job,if you think success all day and let it weigh on your mind ,as a result you will burn yourself out,not to speak of success.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Dec 11
The child I saw was on his way. The parents are in for it and they don't even know it!
@changjiangzhibin89 (16760)
• China
8 Dec 11
Maybe The parents will reap the bitter harvest.
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@sjvg1976 (41281)
• Delhi, India
6 Dec 11
Hello Sara,
My parents never ever pressurised me to succeed anywhere they just guided me wherever i needed their help to get success.Even i too follow my parents and never pressurise my kids though i expect my kids to be at the top in every field they get involved in.
Yes pressure of getting success on a child sometimes has a negative effect as i have seen kids going in depression when they can't perform well after pressure from their parents so we should be careful as parents and should keep free our kids and let them perform may be after being free from pressure they may perform better.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
6 Dec 11
I can't say I was pressured to succeed, but was strongly encouraged to do my best. My parents were supportive of my activities, and Mom typed many a paper for me back in those old days before we had computers. I was not pressured to take any particular course of study, and I got my B.A. with no problems. Mom and I were both disappointed I didn't get my degree in Library Science, which I had wanted, but I chose to get married and there was no grad school for Library Science near where we lived so my husband could do his graduate work. So I got a teaching credential. I did fine as long as I could teach, but when I had to change schools I had to be a better policeman than I was and had to quit teaching in public schools. Taught in private ones and then quit to start the family that didn't come the usual way.
I know my parents were disappointed I didn't "use" my college education very long, since I went into retail doing something I loved for 10 years and made peanuts. I would have done it for free if my hubby would have let me. Then we adopted the kids. When they were gone I went into internet retailing and have remained there. My parents were never on my case, nor did they make me feel like a failure, but I know they were disappointed I didn't use the education they gave me in a way that actually made money.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
10 Dec 11
That's my whole point. As a teen I didn't let people in. I assumed they wouldn't want to talk to me or even care. So College would have been a place to die. Large lecture halls where I could just fade into the background would be perfect. At highschool I was invisible unless I was in the orchestra So I was right. If I had gone and Had to be in an all girl dorm and Have to go to classes I didn't care about And get good grades Or else, I would have killed myself that first week. If I didn't care about a class I wouldn't go. To this day all women/ girl things make me nervous , so I wouldn't fit in so Before getting through out , I would have taken myself out.
Question. How can a person be a Athesit And a Jew. One can not be Jewish Without G-d. I love the saying , you can be a Jew for G-d or a Jew against G-d but you can't be a jew Without G-d!
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
6 Dec 11
Not brilliant. I took classes I was interested in for the most part, and took the first year and half at JC and worked 20 hours a week at the public library. The biggest mistake I made was not taking my required science courses at JC because I wanted easy classes while I was working so many hours. That meant I had to take my required science courses at UCLA. Big mistake.
I did scout out which were the easiest but I still had to take symbolic logic and almost flunked it. Got my only D at college and the only reason I passed was because I went to an office hour and the prof had mercy on me. With the exception of my science classes, most of the rest were enjoyable. I had one very bad professor for Shakespeare, and another one for British history. (Would you believe he read his lectures and didn't even know when he skipped a page?) I ditched British history most of the time because I could learn more on my own reading. Couldn't ditch Shakespeare. It was at 8 AM and the prof used to creep in like a snail and speak in a slow drawl. It was really hard to stay awake.
The funniest part of the experience was that I had heard Bacteriology from a certain prof was really easy. So I signed up. My (now) husband also decided to take the class. I ditched it a lot and read the book. My husband studied hard and actually learned the subject. I crammed. When we took the first test, I did better. My husband couldn't understand how I could beat him when he studied harder. (He was a physics major.) Then I shared my secret with him. I was an English major. The tests were all true/false. I had figured out that if I was in doubt about an answer, I would guess "true" if the statement was qualified with conditions, "false" if the statement was simple. It worked. If a science professor is making a true statement, he almost has to qualify it with conditions -- it's true only if this and that is also true. After learning that, my husband did better on the other tests.
I forgot the other science class I didn't like -- Paleontology 101 -- the study of fossils. I didn't even know what it was when I signed up, but it wasn't a lab course, so I signed up. The only good thing about it was that I met my favorite roommate in that class and we roomed together the next year and were fast friends for life. It's a terrible shame she has developed dementia now and would not recognize me if I went to see her. She was the one with the brilliant mind.
In fact, all my roommates but me were Phi Beta Kappas -- straight "A"s. My problem was partly that I majored in people. I was away from home for the first time in my life and loved meeting all the new people from so many different backgrounds and countries. We would have philosophical and religious discussions into the small hours of the morning ( like we often do here.) This didn't leave much time for studying. Most of my classes are a blank now, except for Western Civilization, geology, and one English class. It's the people I remember most. My roommates all got PhD's and all I got was a B.A. But I didn't care. The only reason I went to college was because my parents and my classmates expected me to. I would have felt left out had I not gone. I'm not sorry I went. But my most important learning didn't come from the classes, but from the dorm experience.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
10 Dec 11
That's one question Dorothy never really answered to my satisfaction. She said she was a Jew in culture and race, but not a religious Jew. Throughout Jewish history there have been non-religious Jews in the sense that they did not obey God and worshiped idols instead. The Old Testament is full of this. Some may have believed in God as a concept, but not as the God they could trust and believe who would come to their aid. These people couldn't live with an invisible god, which is why they forced Aaron to make the golden calf when Moses was up on the mountain too long to suit them. They just didn't get who God really was. Christians believe God finally showed them who he was in Jesus. (Just stating -- not trying to convert you.) But even Jesus said God is a Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.
Man has always seemed to want gods he can make with his hands and then order around. The prophet Isaiah pointed this out in Isaiah 46 and in many other places. The cycle of worshiping God, leaving Him for idols, being crushed by enemies, finally crying out to God to save them and repenting, having God rescue them, returning to the worship of God, and starting the cycle again probably continues to this day. Not all the Jews in Israel today believe in God. Many Jews will tell you they aren't religious Jews. I suppose the ones to ask are the self-proclaimed atheist Jews themselves. They are not hard to find.
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@ShyBear88 (59347)
• Sterling, Virginia
6 Dec 11
Me and my brothers where pushed to do our best because our parents knew it made us happy and when it didn't née would stop and fine something else. Even doing our best some days felt like to much as a kid. Sure I'm not doing what my parents wanted me to but they aren't mad at that they happy to see that I'm happy with what I have. They never pushed too hard at least not to me.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Dec 11
I will never truly know if my mom was proud of me or not. But I am happy.
@cearn25 (3456)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
I am in the position that I study what my heart wants. I am thankful for my parents who are very supportive to me in whatever I do. As long as I they are their for me, I know I will be able to succeed. I am more pressured whether I will be able to succeed in life. But I believe in my capacity and skills. I know I can do it.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
6 Dec 11
I am glad to say I am fortunate enough to have parents that let me choose what I want. All they did is to guide us and tell us to study well as they have no fortunes to inherit to us. We were never pressured but we were advise with good words.
I also believe that if parents are too tough on kids and sets too much expectations, more likely kids will do something parents would regret in the end.
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