Do you think it´s fair to impose your way of eating to someone else?
By marguicha
@marguicha (223720)
Chile
December 13, 2011 10:41pm CST
Two of my grandsons decided to be vegetarians (I think one of them is vegan). My daughter and her youngest son love meat, yet food is done to meet the expectations of the older boys. I told my daughter that it wasn´t fair and the if the older boys wanted something special, they should help to prepare it. What do you think about this, friends? I donñt want you to say whether eating only veggies and fruit is better or worse. What I ask is how you would like being imposed certain foods and what would you do about it.
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@Mashnn (4501)
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14 Dec 11
I wouldn't put strictions on what my children eats but I would try and make better choices for them like choosing white meat instead of red meat and including fruits and vegetables in their diet. I don't think young children need to be vegetarian right now. They need protein for cell growth and for improving their immunity.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
Theae boys are not children anymore. They are 17 and 19 years old, so my daughter cannot make them eat what they don´t want to. But She can eat what she want herself and she can give her youngest son a well balanced meal. He is 11 and likes all kind of foods.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
17 Dec 11
One thing is to decide what to eat and quite another to make mommy dear make all they want when she´s tired. They should help her if they want to eat differently. This post is not about what kind of foods are healthier but about a tired working mother that has to make 2 kinds of food or eat what she doesn´t want, just because her children are spoiled.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
14 Dec 11
The mother shouldn't discouraged her son from eating what they want. As a mother she should do her responsibility on her boys whether it's the food they wanna eat or something else. If it's the boys choice she must be happy and respect it, as we know how healthy eating veggies is.
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
I am not agaist it if they want to eat only veggies. I know they are healthy. But my daughter works all day and comes home to make diner, do all the household chores and both boys are 17 and 19. They do little during the day so they could help out by making their own food if it´s different that the house the rest of the house wants to eat.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
15 Dec 11
now I understand.. if the kids knows how to do it they can prepare it as a help to their mom.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
14 Dec 11
Hello there... It ain't fair my friend.. Why should someone be forced to eat things that are chosen, for their own purposes, by others??? If there is some special need then the needy one should help with it... i agree with that...
It is no good to force others' with our choice anyhow...
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
True, friend. I agree to that. specially if the boys are 17 and 19. They should help their mother if they want something different.
Nothing to do with this post, but I sent you a PM
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
14 Dec 11
While I was still living at home I was vegetarian and the rest of the family loved meat. Sometimes I cooked my own food and sometimes had the same food as the rest of the family without the meat, for instanse if the meal consisted of meat, rice and vegetables I ate rice and vegetables. I would never expect my family to give up meat, because I was a vegetarian, I don't think that would be fair...and I know that my family would have refused to do that
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
I wholly agree with that. The boys (17 and 19) do very little and my daughter works all day and does everything at home. She is divorced and my guess is the she did not have the energy in due time to make her sons help her.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
14 Dec 11
marguicha: preparing different cuisines at the same time every day can be quite taxing for any one. But having said that people must manage things around cooking by helping out to make it possible. Even a very daunting task seems doable and is done without fret or frown if people lend a hand to the main person. It is fair that the older boys are expected to help. By no stretch of imagination can I agree that eating habits must be thrust.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
My daughter works all day and long hours and has noone to help her. My two grandsons (aged 17 and 19) should help her if they want something different. My daughter is too tired when she comes home to make the boys help her. She should let them be hungry for once if they don´t help
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@Arieles (2473)
• United States
14 Dec 11
Children usually learn to eat the way parents eat. If the parents are eating junk foods, naturally those are the foods the children are going to be drawn to. As a parent, I am the one that does the food shopping, the cooking and the serving. The kids are going to eat what I eat and they better be thankful that I care enough to make sure their diet is healthy. Now, this does not mean that they would be allowed to have occasional indulgences outside the home to the foods of their choice, but my guess is they will be drawn to the foods they have been eating because that is what their palette is use to.
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
My grandsons are 17 and 19. They are making their own eating choices and it´s ok as long as they make (or help to make) their own food. My daughter works a deal, is divorced and has to come home to make diner and clean up. She does not have the energy to make two different meals, but she should make the boys help if they want something else.
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
15 Dec 11
As You mentioned,these boys are of an age that they're no longer kids.If they've decided to make a lifestyle change and go veggie,I think it unfair that they should do so and simply dump what must be a lot more menu and preparation work on their Mom...They're old enough to have made this decision..they are old enough to help out with it too!
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
15 Dec 11
I was having keyboard problems while checking this discussion last night and thought my earlier post on this had been deleted as a result!
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
It happen sometimes (computer problems, I mean). As for the rest, I´d make the boys help or starve. There´s all kinds of food at my daughter´s home, but they cannot expect their mom to do everything.
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
16 Dec 11
That'd be my take as well...They can't expect Mom to be running a Veggie or Vegan restaurant just for their benefit,or impose their preferences on the rest of the family..
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
14 Dec 11
I guess I am a little too old school..guicha! Being a vegetarian..is a choice, something you choose to do! Being allergic to foods is a totally different "kettle of fish!" If, for example my child was allergic to the enzymes in meats...I would respect that...and my cooking reflect that! But CHOOSING NOT to eat meat..is just that, choice. Therefore, eat what I put on the table and choose only the veggies! My son has IBS, and tomatoes seem to be the key...so I either cook with them in a manner he can pick them out, like salads..or avoid them, and that is because it is a health risk! He doesn't like beans...and that is to bad, he can pick then out or avoid them if I cook with them! Am I making any sense...one is a CHOICE..the other a health risk!
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
I agree with you, perg. And what I don´t accept is the my drandsons are 17 and 19. If they want to eat something different, they should prepare it. My daughter works a lot to have food on the table and it´s not fair that she also has to cook according to their wishes when there are other people at home with different tastes.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
16 Dec 11
I think your daughter needs the sign that I have in my family room;
The Menu; Two choices....take it or leave it!
At their age..doing anything but burden your Mother with your whims! She must put her foot down, stop allowing them to be dictitorial...OR get themselves a job and eat at a veggie only restaurant! They are at that age, where the world is their oyster...and to use another old cliche "they will push the envelope"! Foot down..this is the food we eat in our house, my way! End of story! A life-style choice they can make, when they have their own homes..but you owe the respect to whomsoever''s home that you are living in, to adapt to their evironment..quietly!
Had my biopsies yesterday...results in 2 plus weeks! Is food and you agreeing?
Big, big HUGZ!
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
17 Dec 11
Dearest, Keep me informed on your biopsies. I´m sending you good energy.
I wholly agree with you about what my daughter should do. But those words "take it or leave it" are awesome. I´ll tell her word by word.
Big nd lots of love!
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@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
14 Dec 11
It sounds like it's your daughter's decision to impose the restrictions because 2 of her sons are vegetarian. You say she likes meat, but obviously she has decided against preparing it. Are her sons forcing her to do so? She's the mom; it's her choice.
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
My daughter comes home too tired to make 2 kinds of food. Yet my older grandsons are 17 and 19, so I think that if they want to eat something different, they are perfectly able to make their own food. I agree with you about her being the boss. I would not let my sons decide for me what I should do.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
I agree that the boys can be vegetarians (or whatever, as long as it´s healthy) specially since they are old enough to decide what to eat. But the rest of the family should also eat what they want to. And the food my daughter cooks should be for everyone. If 2 of her sons won´t eat meat, they can eat the side dish (usually rice, potatoes or pasta) and salads.
@tessa9 (1085)
• Philippines
14 Dec 11
I actually don't think that they were imposing their eating habits. I think it is totally normal if you are the host to prepare food for 'all' of your guest. I have a friend who is allergic to dairy so we make sure to make another dish for him or make the whole meal dairy free. I know it's different situations but you get the idea.
Imposing eating habits would be if they will say that you should not eat meat because of this and that and be all righteous just because they are eating the 'right' way. I love meat and I don't think I will ever be a vegetarian but if a friend of mine is vegan and I'm cooking, I will gladly make a dish for them. I am pretty sure they are already pretty uncomfortable about having to eat a different dish.
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
I did not explain all of it. The boys are not guests. They are her teenage sons (17 and 19) living at her house at her expense. She works all day, comes home to make diner and clean the house while the older boys play guiat or meditate. I wish my daughter would have some time to meditate
@GameMasters (38)
• China
14 Dec 11
It's really troublesome to cook for a whole big family that have different eating habits. Even though with modern cooking appliances, it's time-consuming and troublesome to cook several different dishes to cater to different people's needs, unless that they cook for themselves. You can divide the whole family into two groups and each select a cook to prepare foods for them. Or you need to employee a housekeeper to cook for your big family. Otherwise, the housewife should accept the reality to prepare diversity foods for different tastes. After all, we should respect each person's diet habits, and not to impose others' way of eating to anyone else.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
My daughter is a divorced working mother. She comes home from a demanding work (she´s a psychologist) to do all the housekeeping and dinner. The boys are 17 and 19 and should help their mother prepare their food if they want to eat different. As it is, my daughter cannot make two diferent meals as she´s too tired so she has everyone eating vegetarian
@sophiecheer (931)
• Philippines
14 Dec 11
I think it should be decided that they all agree on what food to prepare, and that a variety of meals should be prepared. In fairness to the other two siblings who have other meal preferences, their choice should also be taken into consideration.
But perhaps they have decided to go vegan to motivate the other two to be vegetarians as well. Either way, this is something that they should discuss amongst themselves.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
15 Dec 11
What I´m against is that my daughter works all day and then comes home to make diner and clean up. The boys are 19 and 17. If they want something else to eat it´s ok and there´s always enough ingredients at home to prepare a good meal. But they must help with diner if they have other choices.
One thing is to motivate someone, and quite another is to take advantage of their mother being too tired to make 2 different meals.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
6 Jan 12
No I don't think it's fair. However, it is what it is everyone has to eat. My oldest is quite fussy and the other two kids as well as hubby can be at times. It is a challenge to find meals that will please everyone I will admit.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
8 Jan 12
I don´t think that it is necessary to make people et what they don´t want, if they are old enough to decide what they want to eat. But if they want something different (and it is within the neans of the family) they should prepare their special food.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
17 Jan 12
I don't think I would want to have someone tell me I can't eat something just because they don't eat it. If the older boys want to be vegetarian, that is their right, but they shouldn't expect everything to be for them only. They should learn how to make their dishes themselves so that the rest of the family is still able to enjoy a good meal.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
18 Jan 12
Just out of curiosity, how old are they? If they are old enough to decide for themselves what to eat, they should definitely be able to make it themselves as well. I hope that you are able to mend the problems. Have a great day!!!
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
18 Jan 12
I agree with you, Deb. And much as I love them, I have had some problems with them because I don´t agree with their behaviour. Tomorrow one of my grandsons will come and I hope we can mend some of the problems.
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
15 Dec 11
Well actually I am very partial to vegetables and fish but can also do beef and chicken dishes so if any family member would ask for any particular meal consisting these then I really will not mind at all. I would be very willing to prepare that for them by all means for after all I love to cook. However I am not really happy about preparing pork and not really happy to see any pork dish and would not cook as much as I could any pork dish so if anyone at home or any friend who will come home to dine wishes a pork dish then he or she should rather prepare it. I am not a Muslim but I really am very particular about healthy eating so I can't be imposed to cook unhealthy stuff. Other than that I could cook as much as they want provided they are withing my lists of healthy food.
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
17 Dec 11
Yes Marguicha I knew your point. It is not whether the food is good or bad. I am just answering your final question "Would like being imposed certain foods and what would you do about it? I was just speaking from my own point of view in my comment as part of my reply. I don't mind being imposed certain foods, I'd be ready to cook as much as they want for as long as the food they request is in the list of my good food.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
The problem is not if the food they like is good or bad. What I don´t like is that they expect my daughter to make the food they want when she comes tired from work instead of helping her out cooking their own different meals. The boys are 17 and 19, so they can do it perfectly well.
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
17 Dec 11
My daughter is the provider at her house and she doesn´t have a maid. She doesn not have the energy at the end of the day to cook a la carte for boys who can cook. But instead of cooking for everyone and letting her older sons eat part of the meal, she makes a sacrifice of her and her youngest son. It´s not fair. The boys should cook.
@GavinKaos (272)
• United States
14 Dec 11
I believe imposing your eating habits on someone is like shoving religion down peoples throats because they don't believe the same thing. It will possibly make them resent you.
I agree, if the two are vegetarians or Vegans, they should help prepare the meals that they will eat as well, and whoever (I am assuming its your sister that cooks) cooks the normal (well not normal, but the food they are used to) makes food that her and the youngest will eat. Of course that is if the budget allows both. You can get all your needed nutrients if your a vegetarian or vegan, or a meat eater, so its not hurting anyone regardless, but I don't feel it should force your sister and the youngest to change their eating habits. How old are the Children? I guess that would help determine a few things. I'm assuming the older two are most likely teenagers or older.
So from the facts that I know (not sure about kids ages, budget etc) I am of the same opinion as you.
@GavinKaos (272)
• United States
20 Dec 11
The 17 year old has no reason he can't prepare his own food or help around the house. The nineteen year old can help cook and clean, but more importantly quit living off of mom and making her do everything and take care of stuff himself, or at least financially support the house, especially if he requires a specific diet.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
26 Dec 11
I wholly agree with you. They are my grandsons, but I don´t agree with the way they were raised. It is not their fault: my daughter has been always overprotective and now she is paying for it.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
The story is about my daughter (a divorced, working mother with no house help) and my eldest grandsons (17 and 19 years of age). I agree with you: they should not impose their eating habits on the rest of the family. My daughter has accepted that because she has no energy left to cook two different meals. My idea is that, at that age, the boys should help their mother and make their vegetarian meals.
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
15 Dec 11
I definitely think that the older boys should be able to help in preparing the meal that they eat. They are old enough, aren't they? Maybe they could even prepare some vegetarian meals to be frozen for a later time. That way when your daughter cooks something they don't want, there are already alternatives that just have to be unthawed and heated.
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
16 Dec 11
Maybe what mom needs to do is to suggest that her sons make the vegetarian portion on the meal, while she makes the meat-containing portion. That way your grandsons would be learning life skills for when they are on their own (never too early to start). Another benefit would be in introducing vegetarian foods to the rest of the family. Leftovers could be frozen into meal-sized portions so that they have something to eat if they don't feel like cooking and don't want to eat what mom cooks. In other words...if they want to eat a specialty diet, they have to do something towards it.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
They are more than old enough, friend. My grandsons are 17 and 19 years of age. They should help their mom, not only with cooking but in a lot of other ways. They are lucky that they are not MY kids. I would make them help OR ELSE
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@polaroidsredwine (509)
• United States
14 Dec 11
It's certainly not fair to impose eating preferences on others. I'd think it would be fair for a nice balance to be struck for meals. There are plenty of ways to make courses that appeal and can be eaten by both groups, and ways to make dishes that can cater to one side or the other without having to make an entirely separate main dish. Compromise can be a good thing sometimes.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
17 Dec 11
They know how to cook when they want. They are just lazy and my daughter will cater to them instead of just letting them starve if they don´t help. I bet they will start working then. At my house, they behave.
@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
16 Dec 11
I agree about compromise in everything. And I think that in this case, with boys being 17 and 19 years of age and having a working mother, they should help with cooking if they want to eat something else.
@polaroidsredwine (509)
• United States
16 Dec 11
Then the boys are definitely old enough to help with the cooking, especially when it comes to making food that caters to their diet. Besides, it never hurts for them to improve their culinary skills - knowing how to cook for themselves is a helpful life skill.