I admire fellow mylotters who respond to discussions that violate mylot's rules

@phillyguy (3005)
Philippines
December 15, 2011 9:26am CST
Yeah I admire fellow mylotters who respond to discussions that violate mylot's rules/guidlines... to inform the discussion creator that what he/she just posted is a violation of mylot's guidelines and to tell her/him that he/she should read the guidelines and FAQ to know what is allowed and not allowed in mylot and to warn other members that the discussion will very likely be deleted later sparing them from the possible deletion of their post if they respond to that discussion. Sometimes I also do that and I feel a bit frustrated when I see the same member do the same mistakes again but I understand that sometimes it is hard to know exactly what will be considered a violation especially in the "poll type discussion" restriction, actually sometimes I still encounter my post being deleted by admin for some reasons. That's why I admire those members who let others know that a certain discussion will more likely be deleted by the admin because they are sacrificing their own post because it will be deleted too along with the discussion. Do you respond to discussions to inform the discussion creator that he/she violates mylot guidelines? Even though you know that your response will be deleted too. Or do you just ignore such discussions because you know that if you respond to such discussion your post will be deleted too?
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18 responses
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
15 Dec 11
Hi phillyguy To be honest... I used to think and respond... but not anymore. Today, I dont bother if any discussion is a violation or not. I simply read out, if it is worth of a response, I go ahead and do it. Unfortunately, my friends here are quite knowledgeable of the guidelines and their discussions are rare to find the axe. For many others that I respond to, now, I am normally do not think twice about the violations. If it is loud and clear, I simply report it and move on.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
16 Dec 11
That is quite a great thing to do. I wish I could continue on those lines. Unfortunately, my time here gets limited, and I kind of get stuck up with one or two discussions as the people on them and the discussions together make it great. Then one day I realized that there are high chances that people who violate the rules are newbies, and many even dont care to open the once-started discussion. This makes me feel bad and also, I believe that suggestions work right with people who need them. Harsh and rude as it may sound, but dear, I am here to make the best of my time and not to rectify people who are wrong and even dont want to know where.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
yeah I do understand your point sid lately I also feel "tired' or lazy to do it and just spend my time responding to discussion that I will have fun and have some really good conversations, sometimes you'll just feel bad about it that you are just trying to help but will be ignored or even interpreted negatively
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
hi thesids actually lately many other members are doing it so most of the time I just leave those kinds of discussions but if see a discussion from a new member that clearly violates mylot's rules and there's no response yet that tells the discussion creator that her/his post is not allowed in mylot then I will respond and tell her/him that she/he should read mylot's guidelines and FAQ because there are members that just don't have an idea that what they are doing or posting in mylot's discussion is not allowed
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
15 Dec 11
That's an instinct here in mylot. Members has to inform other members especially the new ones. But, yes,it is very sad also that the same member forget about the rules and do the same mistake again...duh!
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@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
yeah it's like a responsibility for every member to help new members get familiarized with how mylot works, actually some just don't forget some didn't read the responses at all so they don't have an idea that they have violated mylot's guidelines and most of the time I will see members like that being very active for few days then will suddenly left (I assume) mylot maybe because they feel bad that many of their discussions/posts were deleted.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
yeah it's like giving back the favor we once receieved when we were also new here in mylot, I personally see it like that because i am really thankful to those members who gave me good advice, helpful tips and information, and overwhelming encouragement when I was about to quit mylot that's why whenever I see some new members asking for information I always try to be as helpful as possible and give the information they needed.
@emdjay23 (1575)
• Philippines
15 Dec 11
:).. I usually get notification from my lot about my discussion, or even the discussions that have posted.. but still, I responded to it.. I just have so many questions in my mind.. I really wanted to to ask those by I am afraid that mylot wouldn't allow such.
@emdjay23 (1575)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
:) yes, I responded other discussions. sorry my mistake.. Actually I am having difficulty when it comes to microworkers, as what i've written on my other discussion, regarding blogging, I really want to do that job but I don't have my own website, do I have to pay if I wanted to build my own site and for domain also. I don't have enough funds yet for that, I am a newbie in microworkers and I want to pursue it, because I know the site really pays. or do have any recommendation on a particular job site that I can join into.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
17 Dec 11
oh I am not active in microworkers because they doesn't pay through paypal and I am not that familiar with using alertpay and someone explained to me the process in alertpay and it really sounds more complicated and hassle compared to paypal. Regarding blogging I am also not an active blogger but I believe it is not very practical for a newbie in blogging to have your own site because you will need to pay money to have your own domain but you are not sure that you can earn good amount of money from it so just start using free blogging service like blogger.com or you can write articles in triond I have read many discussions here that says triond is a nice site to start writing articles.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
What do you mean you still responded to it? if you receive a notification that your discussion violated a rule then you can't respond or comment on that discussion again because mylot already deleted it. Or maybe what you are trying to say is you respond to other user discussions that violated mylot rules/guidelines. You can always ask other members about those questions in your mind, actually if you have another question you can ask me now in this discussion or you can ask other members if you want.
15 Dec 11
If I see one, I do. Most people take the advice really well, too, although there's always someone who's so insecure that they get all upset and angry about it (not naming any names, of course...).
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@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
on yes I also see you many times responding to that kind of discussions and I think your response is really helpful for the discussion creator if they will just follow it, and I agree that most people take the advice really well, I have experienced it myself that some are even thankful that an older member let them know about it early before they keep doing it, it's quite understandable for some new members because they are too excited to start participating in discussion and don't prioritize reading and understanding the guidelines and FAQ first before posting that's why it is important that the older members tell them what they should do
@MandaLee (3764)
• United States
15 Dec 11
Hi Phil, Yes, I respond to discussions that could be deleted. I, too, admire these discussions very much. However, I don't usually think to warn the creator of mylot's guidelines. Have a great day!
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@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
uhmm you admire discussions that violate mylot rules? or it's just a typo and what you really mean is you admire those members who let others know if they are violating some rules? anyways have a great day too Mandalee
@mel0482 (283)
• Philippines
15 Dec 11
In my opinion, it works two sides. It is either the discussion topic's violating Mylot rules or it's the response's the ones making such violation by using some offensive words from commenting the topic being posted.
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@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
uhmmm honestly I seldom see members using offensive words in telling the discussion creator that he/she violated a rule most of the time I see friendly advice or some just state the fact that the discussion is a violation and the creator should read the guidelines and FAQ, a very few members will be harsh only when the discussion creator feels like he/she is being attacked and replied rudely
@indahfth (11161)
• Indonesia
18 Dec 11
I prefer, to not respond to discussions that violate the rules. I sometimes send messages to members who violate the rules. I feel, it's better to send a message, from the reprimand in the discussion.
@indahfth (11161)
• Indonesia
20 Dec 11
Yes. You are right. We can not send a message, if not in the list of our friends. We must make friends first, so we can send a message.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
21 Dec 11
yup and I won't add someone for that reason alone so if that's the case the only choice is to let him/her know through responding in the discussion
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
19 Dec 11
yeah I agree sending personal message to the members that violate mylot's rules is also a good way to inform them about it but that way is only applicable if the discussion creator is already your friend but most of the time it's the new members who violate rules so it is very likely that they aren't your friend yet.
@shibham (16977)
• India
16 Dec 11
As some mylotters have said that its their duty and i also feel same and consider it as my duty. Most often newbies commit mistakes and we veterans are ought to remind them about their violations. Its true that veterans also start some discussions which violate guidelines, sometimes its hard to predict. have a nice time.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
hi shib yeah I also feel like it is some kind of a responsibility of older members to remind new members about some important things that new members should know and do because new members tend to ignore reading mylot's rules and FAQ because they wanna participate in the discussions right away
@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
18 Dec 11
I always try to give a respond to any discussion that I'm able to do it.Whether it will delete or not, cause mostly I never care whether it pole, milestones, and blablabla. All I know that they need an answer.Even for a discussion with reff link, if they have a question on it.I will give my respond and in the last words, I warn the creator that it's against the rules. Usually, a newbie who done it.So I ask them to read the tos or guidelines.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
19 Dec 11
at least you still warn the discussion creator, actually I also do that sometimes when the discussion is really interesting and there are some discussions that we can't be sure whether it is a violation or not.
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
19 Dec 11
I never told people if his/her discussion is violating the guidelines, but I did respond on some of those discussions. Even knowing that a discussion is about to be deleted, I wouldn't mind responding if it is interesting to me... but several times I did not know why a discussion I responded was deleted cause to me nothing was against the rule in the discussion. Well, maybe I am not understanding the guidelines, still...
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
20 Dec 11
My point exactly... Well I guess since we are not the creator of the site, we can't complain... as you know a complain on this site discussion will be deleted too...
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
19 Dec 11
actually sometimes I was also surprised and confused why a certain discussion I responded to was deleted and since it was already deleted I can't check/review it to better understand why admin deleted it, I also respond to some discussions that violate mylot's rules when the discussion is really interesting and I wanna share something about it, and also some funny discussions that I know will be deleted for violation.
@sjvg1976 (41289)
• Delhi, India
17 Dec 11
Hello Phillyguy, It depends on the mood as sometimes i do it and sometimes i just read a discussion and see many of the people already did that so i leave that discussion.But to tell someone where he/she went wrong is always a good thing and we must keep doing it.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
17 Dec 11
Hi sjvg But to tell someone where he/she went wrong is always a good thing and we must keep doing it. Great thought and great suggestion. I will try to follow this as long as I can... but you know the lazy kid
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
18 Dec 11
definitely a good thing to do if you have enough patience Sometimes when I am in the mood of doing this I really make sure I can respond to every discussion (that I think violate mylot's rules and guidelines) that I see but sometimes when I am not in the mood and just feel like reading interesting discussions I just ignore them because I am pretty sure some one else will do it.
@bhonti (1246)
• Philippines
21 Dec 11
I did a couple of times. I remember one time I even said in my post that I think this post will be deleted eventually, but I am still commenting on it anyway. Just to inform the newbie the violation he did.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
3 Jan 12
yeah that's it..we still can comment about the topic if it is really interesting but if we think it is a violataion of mylot's guidelines, we should also inform the discussion creator because maybe the discussion creator is really new and doesn't have any idea about it and telling them to check the guidelines and FAQs would help.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
17 Dec 11
I did for a few days. But often there are people who have given they're comments already so I don't feel the need to add the same comments. Now I just skip as I know there are guidelines that they can read I don't think they have to still asked it. If however, they still got no time checking out the guidelines, I just don't mind their discussions as I am sure that someone will be good enough to correct the person. Sometimes, I still jump in to discussions that I think will be deleted later if I feel like participating. In fact I have received a lot of notifications since I joined here.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
18 Dec 11
hi mel You have a point there it is a responsibility for every new member to read the guidelines but it's just that some members just feel lazy (I am guilty of that for some of the other sites that I tried before) and some are excited to participate in the discussions right away that's why they need to be guided by the older members.
@rusale (647)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
I really hate it when I will be inform that my response was deleted because of violation committed by the person who made the discussion. And mostly it is made by similar person. I don't know why they keep on posting discussion that has violation. As of now, I won't comment to a discussion which has only few response. Especially when most the response comes from new members. I am new member too and I still don't know what am I going to do so that my response won't be deleted because I think it will make your earnings decrease.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
17 Dec 11
oh you're welcome if there are some things that you don't understand fully you can always ask other members for clarification as long as you ask about it in a proper way for sure members will explain things out for you. If there is a particular thing you want to ask right now you can ask maybe I can explain it for you.
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
uhmm maybe she/he doesn't have an idea that he/she is violating the rules the same way that you don't know that his/her discussion is a violation because you said you responded to the discussion of that same person. I can understand your way that you don't respond to a discussion that has few responses because you don't wanna risk your post but I believe the much better way is to keep on reading mylot's guidelines and FAQ and and also read the first few responses of the discussion because most of the time if a discussion violated a rule some senior members will respond right away to inform the discussion creator about the violation she/he has just committed.
@rusale (647)
• Philippines
17 Dec 11
Yah. thanks for your comment. I keep on reading the FAQ but there are some of those I don't understand fully.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Dec 11
hi phillyguy I have many times, and too many times have been rebuffed for advising them to read the guidelines as if telling the person that is somehow scolding them, which was never the case. I merely felt the person might be new and missed the information in the guidelines somehow so I warned them it broke thus and thus rule. but some are grateful, and some frankly were hateful so I have now let others take that role. I get sick of losing earnings trying to help someone who resents being told to read the information that would save them from losing discussions due to deletion for breaking a mylot rule.If my help is taken as help fine,otherwise why bother?
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
hi hatley I understand that, it is really frustrating when you are just trying to help but it will be interpreted that you are trying to attacked them or "scold" them, but it feels good when members appreciate that you let them know what they are doing wrong and ask more advice or information
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
16 Dec 11
Hi phil! I will still write to them If I found it is important to do so or they are newbies. but now since I more respond to my friend's discussions, rarely comment on others I would more likely leave my friends' discussions if I have noticed that I have respond to the same topic but different OP, or they just asked and said about things that are going to violate mylot't rules. Most of them are familiar with the rules so I don't drop any comments just leave and found that a while later their discussions get deleted. Sometimes I would wait for a few days too before I post any comments as I am not very good in guessing which discussions will be deleted or not.(^^)
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
That is a very good strategy if you don't want to risk your response/comment getting deleted even if you are interested to a certain discussion but you feel that it might get deleted but you are not sure about it you can just leave it for a day then check it back after the update. But I believe some posts will be deleted even after a few days if admin didn't notice it right away but someone will report it later.
@jadoixa (1166)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
i think that is a good thing to do if we know something to share it to others too so that they will be aware of it because some people don't really care and have time to explore and read the rules and guidelines of a website..so they just do and post what they feel like not knowing that it is against the rules..sometimes i cannot really tell which ones are a violation and i just answered it and then later on i receive a notification that my answer was deleted because the post was deleted..i haven't really reviewed the rules and guidelines yet..i think there are 2 or 3 post i answered that were deleted but so far i haven't posted something that was deleted..i will not answer the discussion if i know it has violated mylot's rules..but i will just send a private message to the one who posted it that what he posted was a violation and refer him to the page on the site where he can review and learn about it..because even if we answered it..sometimes the post have been deleted already even before they can read the answer..so this is just what i will do..
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
uhm that is a good way too telling them through sending a message but most of the time the members who commit mistakes like that are new members so most of the time they are not yet your friend so you can't send them a message yet, and actually most of the time just a few minutes after a discussion is posted someone will already respond to that kind of situation and tell the discussion creator that his/her discussion is a violation of mylot's rules and guidelines. That's why it is also important to read other's response too so you would know that a particular discussion that you want to respond to will probably get deleted later. And reading the tags can also give a clue because many times senior members they will tag it as "violation".
@davaome (1826)
• Philippines
15 Dec 11
I actually am a hard headed guy, so I guess i have alot of people reminding me this, and hopefully they will still continue reminding me because I read the guidelines, but I still get to be reprimanded because i didn't really overlooked it. But I would also like to thank them for being so nice and still trying to remind me :)
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
16 Dec 11
at least you understand that those members that reminded you is just trying to help unlike other's who feel bad about it and replied negatively..don't worry there will always be a member that will remind you if ever you unknowingly commits a violation