Does everything happen for a reason

This doesn't really explain anything to be honest you know. Come on, place some more details in your answers and throw in a couple of examples along with it.

yes renhard, you need some more examples depicting you saying correct i will do it for you. everythings happens for a reason like here in discussion we are talking to each other is happening for a reason. now you are paying more attention on my words happens fora reason because you are just might be thinking that something i am going to be write is going to be intresting. and now by writing so much thing we both are like aware of each other name. now we know that you name is renhard and i am jaiho an dwe both are not going to forgot each other when ever we see each other name in other discussion. see from today we both has a resolution that we both help each other in every possible way... and now back to the point everything happens for a reason you have started this discussion has a reason because god had a wish that we should meet each other. see evry thing happens for reason.

I like this guy...straight out honest..funny how he replied..

I have to say that I get where you going. Look at me though and tell me what you think. Born in a little less than average class and concerning my intellectual capabilities i was just average. Nothing out of the ordinary. Always wanted to be some sort of doctor while growing up or computer engineer but in my country those occupation gets really underpaid. Doctor is much more years than computer engineer but I really wanted to come out of school early and just start work so I was heading for the computer engineer. For some reason I started to be so much more intelligent in the sciences and I started to top the whole class. I had the perfect grade that no college professor wouldn't resist for me to become a computer engineer and so I felt great. When I went to start school, could you believe those college professors said I shouldn't waste my time doing this occupation just go back into school complete my education further to go after being the doctor. After some serious persuasion I gave up and went back to school. Now i went to even a better school than before and believe it or not I top the entire school in the sciences. I don't really want to use the word destiny but i feel as if my whole life is trying to push me to be that doctor. Before I went back to school I couldn't get no opportunities to go overseas to study so i had to try locally. After following those professors advice, something amazing happen. And I saw an opportunity to go overseas. I am in the process now. Just need to pass one more exam and I am good to go.To be specific though I want to become a neurosurgeon. But what do you think of all that. Don't you think maybe I wasn't really meant to be that computer engineer, maybe sometime in the future a lot of people's lives will depend on someone and at that time maybe I will be the only one available to help? What do you think about that?

So I am asking now would you classify that as "everything happens for a reason" or not? I really hope everything works out for your husband though. Is it ok for me to ask your husband age? And how long will he take to complete all those years of studying. If everything goes successful for me I am looking at about 15 more years studying. And if I have the proper finances to study for straight without stopping then I am looking to be working fully as a neurosurgeon at about the age 35 or so.

In your case it seems as though those in authority are trying to direct you in a way that they think is best for you. And now you have made the decision to try and become a doctor. That is great that you are working to become a neurosurgeon. My husband is hoping to start college next year for premed. He wants to be a dermatologist. We each have a chose in which direction we want our life to go in. Sometimes because of where we are (for example the place we live) can influence what we want to do with our life. Others in turn try to help us make wise choses.

For me I think the reason is knowledge and friendship. I have a great love for people and myLot has given me the chance to meet and talk to people from all over the world. I have learned things here I might have never learned about people and cultures. I have shared dreams and thoughts and learned about the dreams and thoughts of others. I have taken opinions and been given the chance to see things through the minds of people around the world. I have also made some very special friends.

JenInTN , hey then what you thing the reason of us having here and commenting.i do believe the same.

Oh come on, everything in this world has a reason, but I am not talking like that. No matter what you do, an action is going to result into something. No matter what. So what I am asking if, if you get two courses to choose from and you manage to choose that one because you just couldn't get into the other. Will that one that you had to choose going to carry you to your "ultimate" purpose?

First of all let I say I agree with that second sentence perfectly. But I need to question something a bit. Do you ever in your life feel that someone that experienced unfair and terrible things and end up turn someone stuck in poverty etc, maybe was a good thing? Just listen, do you ever feel maybe if that person had became successful in life, he or she maybe would have bring ruin to a society in the world or something? Or have you ever felt that maybe if he or she was successful, someone maybe would had envied and then decided to take his or her life and just maybe he/she being in poverty makes his/her life longer, even if he/she doesn't really realize it. I hope you get where I am going. So what do you honestly think?

Exactly, its like corruption these days with people high in authority. Everything they do affects the less fortunate that depends on them. That is why I asked the question, everyone has free will and if that free will is going to affect someone else, maybe that is used to determine your ultimate purpose. A purpose that can help the world to be successful. As to answer the question, there could be all possible reasons. i am not saying these could be all true, and I amount agreeing that these reason are the cause. I am just putting down some reasons to hear back your comment. Could't it be that... sigh, I really cant find a reason but I see life is definitely unfair.

First of all, i don't see why being successful would bring down anyone else, unless the person was selfish, greedy and held such a high position in life that others suffered because of this. Every day hard working caring people can and do lose everything they worked so hard for, their homes their jobs and even their family members through no fault of their own.what could possibly be the reason for this? This is why i believe that life very often is unfair,unjust and the many questions asked as to why just has no answers.

No, no, no you are so confusing this thing. I am speaking about the saying "everything happens for a reason". Its usually to said because something bad should happen because that is not the correct path. Maybe you fail exam and the saying would be like if you had passed that exam you would reach in a situation much worst than what you will be in if you did fail. Do you get what I am saying?

When the saying is used "everything happens for a reason", is usually upon failure or when you dont get something you desire and you should expect much better in the future. Its like the saying means that you were MEANT TO FAIL OR NOT TO GET THAT WHICH YOU DESIRED. Its like it is saying that the best thing for you at this time, maybe if you did pass or if you did get what you desired then maybe in the future, you would have gotten something YOU DON'T DESIRE. Do you understand what I am saying?

each and every type of discussion changes you life, the things which matters the most is how you react towards them, for instance if you take things in positive then they turn into positive and if you take them in negative manner they will surely show some negative impacts.

Ok i understand that, but is that hand always guiding us to something better, and by better I mean what we desire, or worst, something that we wont desire. What should be noted though is that one person wont know if he or she really truly desires a position until he or she is actually experience the position. So I am saying is this always for something better or worst.

That is so true and I also find myself like this sometimes. The only believe I have are those that can definitely be proven. You see I am a science student so that is how I have been raised, in facts. Without facts I find it really difficult to agree. But in this case of "every thing happens for a reason", I find that every now and then I switched between beliefs. I find myself thinking that at times it is so true because of things I have experienced but at other times I just feel its rubbish. Just pure rubbish. I most times believe this is all nature and people just get up one day and threw a theory in it. When trying to prove the theory its impossible, the only thing one can prove is life continues and with every action something must follows, even if that something is nothing.

So why cant you believe that all this is nature and not everything happens for a reason phrase. As a matter of fact when you bring in God in the equation it seems as if you are speaking more about nature and not the saying. People most times get the phrase and nature confused. Well that is what i believe.

You seem to also understand this whole " everything happens for a reason as well". I don't think I could have said it any better. If you ever read through all most in this discussion you might saying I am being unfair and taking sides, but the truth is that I use to think what you are thinking now, and then sometimes I just feel like things do happen for a reason(based on experiences and things I have been through), but being a science student i just can't accept that claim. SO I am more on your side that "we tend to make the reasoning that "everything happens for a reason" as a scapegoat for our misfortune"

Well when I say turn out for the worst or best I am talking the ultimate turn out. Not just the turn out for that certain single situation but the ultimate turn out. Example the professors at a college denied me because my grades were too good for that course. Everything happens for a reason. Maybe that reason was so I could get even a better education. And then maybe the ultimate turnout was so I can be a neurosurgeon to save people's lives. Do you see where I am going here. You see most times when people use that term, "everything happens for a reason," is when something not desirable happens and that you should expect something BETTER in the future. In all cases I have seen so far, that's what happens.

Yes i can think of a few things that that does this but like science there is a thing called coincidence. Nature is everything. It continues it flow for every second of the universe. With nature with every action, there will be something that follows, even if that something is actually nothing. That is just nature. When you speak about "everything happens for a reason" its usually when something bad happen and you should expect something better in the future. That is the only time the phrase is used. And i believe something bad must happen in your life and something good must follow sometimes down the road and that is just nature. People try to put some phrase into something that already explains life.

you see people a lot get this thing confuse. Of course everything happens for a reason, that is nature its self. But this saying is different. This saying "everything happens for a reason" is usually when you don't get something you deserve, or desire or maybe you even fail something, and then here is where the saying comes in, its saying all of that bad thing happened should have happened as it will lead to something much better in the future. example. First let I say I have a big goal to buy a lamborghini, I am absolutely in love with cars and want to have a collection. So I planned to go into college early so the earlier I start working I would have been able to save towards my goal. my first choice was to become a neurosurgeon but that would take about 15 years, my second choice is computer engineer but that will take about 6 years. So now you see why I tried to pick computer engineer as well. After I really wanted to get into college last year after graduating from FIFTH form, they turn me down. Not because I failed or anything but because my grades were too excellent. I felt i deserved to go there to do computer engineering but i didn't. The professors said I should go back to SIX FORM. I just wanted out and wanted to finish college as soon as possible. THIS IS THE BAD PART the saying: "everything happens for a reason" future part: I went back to six form after all that persuasion. And I change my career goal back to my first choice a neurosurgeon. I had no idea how much a neurosurgeon works. ALso unbelievable i topped my school in science and it feels as if i might make it to be that neurosurgeon sooner or later SO for the saying it means, maybe if i had still went to college there and then I would turn out to be that computer engineer but I would be getting such low salary no matter how much i save I would never reach that goal of buying that collection lamborghini. Just recently i check the neurosurgeon salary and I see after working for 2 years I can buy that lamborghini and a house as well. I am not saying it would take me exactly two years but saving for 4 years as a neurosurgeon can more than buy me back that lamborghini, but saving for 30 years as a computer engineer might only edge me the money to buy the lamborghini but no maintenance money and no gas money. NOW THAT IS TO EXPLAIN THE SAYING Now let i repeat the question, Do you believe everything happens for a reason?

Exactly, you seemed to explain it perfect to me. This is how I used to explain it. Its just a part of nature no matter what happen something else with happen. It is the fact that something happens for a reason or not but you cant avoid nature. It is like having you cant avoid then putting a theory or something in it, which will be difficult to be proven as wrong.

Hi again Renhard, I can understand what you are saying here but I'm still convinced that where we are right now is where we need to be. I have a nephew who was involved in a motorcycle accident when he was seventeen, and has been confined to a wheelchair for the past thirty years. At the time, I wondered how something like that could be for the best. Today, he feels absolutely certain that it was, and I have to agree with him. The things that he has achieved, and the people he has helped, because of his experiences are amazing. None of us has all the answers but I believe there is a great master plan of which we are all a part. Blessings.

So why couldn't you believe that those things that happened to you were actually for the better and not for the best. What if you had did something else and you rlife turned out better. How can you be sure that what you are going through now is the best thing that can happen to your life. Homeless people. You are telling me that is the best thing for their lives. You said it is no coincidence so tell me.

Did you send me something I haven't answered?

No its not that. Its just that its been a long time since I have been on mylot and before i took a break. Saphrina, you and I usually participate in a lot of discussion. Or am I mixing up the person?

Wow, I find it really difficult to believe in those things. Maybe because I was grown as a strict science student so I find it hard to agree with theories and other things unless there is evidence, or if it has been proven without any fault. That is my. By the way long time I haven't heard from you celticeagle.

I dony see it as a negative figure but it encourages us to do more cause everybody would agree that being a beggar is not a comfort situation. Tough we had try hard but still being a beggar at least we had done evrything that wecan

You speak about yourself, but what about the beggar. He isnt so lucky. Your saying he was made to be negative figure to other people or something?

So the reason my friend failed that exam was so she can grow up with an incomplete education, not having a middle to upper class job, not being able to live her life like she wanted to. I feel sometimes that this whole principle came about because no matter what life time still continues and if time still continue, events still occur. And how you change something is gonna impact the same thing or another maybe in different way or the same way. People take the natural facts of life, and made a principle out of it, but how can you prove it?

I do respect both your opinions. What I have to say is that I don't believe things happen for a reason and I don't believe in destiny. Or is it better if I say I used to believe that. Evert since recently my mind change on that view for all my life I wanted to study abroad. I started university before, after graduating from 5th form, and could you believe the professors looked at my grade and say I was too intelligent to do that course. I got so upset and really wanted to do it but after a lot of persuasion I just gave up and go back to high school to finish six form for preparation to go into the field of med instead. And for some reason I just got the opportunity to study abroad. Its like I suddenly feel everything did happen for a reason. Every single point of my life that is. So presently I would say I agree with syc.

First let I welcome you mylot and I hope you have a wonderful time here. For a first post that was excellent. I would say I have to agree with you and i dont really believe in the saying either. But have you ever come close to any experience where you felt the saying was true "everything happens for a reason"?

Well I dont believe that situation fits directly to the saying but I get what you are saying. But who knows what if you had stayed home and something else happened. It is impossible to know unless you really experience it.

I understand what you'r saying but it depends on the situation EG.someone told you not to go somewhere but you still when and you got hurt in the process we could say that if you had listened that wouldn't have happened but i believe that things happen of peoples chooses or decisions not how it was planned or that was your fate.