My ex want to give his name to our daughter and my family dislike the idea
By homeshoppers
@homeshoppers (6166)
Philippines
January 1, 2012 1:18pm CST
for almost 2 years of not seeing and not even heard about him since he left me when i was still pregnant without having my job nor other means of financial capacity to support myself,now, this guy just returned like nothing happened want to give his name to out child and he want it as soon as possible and also want to change my daughter's citizenship to dual since his a canadian...
my family dislike the idea as they hated him because of what he did to me and it was my family who helped me with my baby though im thinking of my child's sake in the future.. do i accept it or not.. what do you think guys...
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19 responses
@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
1 Jan 12
Oh my heavens, this guy got some NERVE!!!!! Wow! Nope, I would just keep the child's name the way it was when she was born, that's final. If he changes his actions and attitude, perhaps you can talk about visitation rights, but certainly not custody or name-changing or anything like that. Please don't give into him for your child's and your sake.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
2 Jan 12
I don't think that changing the name will be wrong if you are comfortable with that and even letting him see her as he is the father. Still, I strongly thnk you need something legal in writing as to what the stipulations will be. As it stands, you have nothing and regardless of name..he is her father and could take her tomorrow and still be within his legal rights. I would not go for the duo-citizenship. I understand that your ex contacted you to say "merry Christmas" That is such a small small thing and he disappeared for 2 yrs and left you to deal with the pregnancy on your own. I hate to keep any kid from a parent. Get legal council on this before signing anything at all.
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@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
at stowyk, i dont want the time to come that me and her father will fight though i know he will not win but how about my child, will she feel bad if i didnt do it, what if someday they will meet and her father will tell her how he tried to be his father but i didnt give him the chance, im thinking that maybe my child will felt bad about it thinking she have a broken life. im now in the middle of thinking for myself, for my baby sake and my family's feelings.
@masihi, im also thinking of not giving him the right for the name and decided to just for the child support and my child will decided when she grow up if she want to take her father's name or not. i really dont know.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Jan 12
The best thing for you to do is to allow your daughter to take her father's name on the basis of her own decision, this will also depends on her relationship with her father, of course. This is a major decision, I know, but you really do need to protect your child. One never knows the true intent of the father, you really do need to keep your guard up. I cannot stress that enough. It's for your child's safety. Time will tell if the father is being a "good guy" or not.
@romymjrose06 (91)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
Hello its your daughter's right to have her father's name. It's her fault whatever happened to you. With regards to citizenship, there is an existing law about it so you have nothing to worry.
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
yes, im also thinking about citizenship as im thinking that what if he will bring my daughter to canada, i dont have that money to follow them there and look for them, though im also thinking of child support thinking he might only offer if we use his name. i want to know the law of my child bearing his name and if he can bring him to other country without my knowledge though what if he will use false power of attorney giving them permission to go out of the country then he will come back again.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
2 Jan 12
If he takes her out of the country then it would be very very difficult for you to get her back if he chose to keep her. Giving her his name does very little. It acknowledges that he is the father and since that is what he wants as well then I see no argument there. I think that disappearing for two years is pretty lame. I read your response as to why and it's a lame excuse. Still he IS her father and if he is willing to step up now then let him. As for the duo-citizenship...I would NOT do that one...at leass not right now. If he takes her over the border and decides not to bring her back then there would be little you could do. Listen to our parents on this one.
@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
It has been two years and your anger still seemed too strong that you are so happy right now to deny him his child... but the thing is you could also be denying your child his/her father. He could have left you before, for so many reasons tha only he can say... but if he is working on it now why not give him a chance to get to know the child he left before. two years could have done him so many things and it could have thought him how to accept and he could have been sorry for what he did. I think you should talk to this person, and set some things straight before you decide. Watch out for sincerity in him.
Forgive him already, it should also make you feel better and would be able to make wise decisions.
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
yes your right, i know everyone make mistakes somehow in there life though we also have a chance to correct it after years of thinking. he might had change of mind with his child, he might be undecided before, though im looking forward of talking to him in person and so he can explain why he left us without any words. anger might show if we meet and i dont know yet what will be my reaction though i hope everything will be settled for our child sake as i dont want any fight.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
2 Jan 12
Hello... It is very strange that he should disappear for 2 years & then return to name the child... Have you checked where he was? Did he leave because of his failure to make money? And has he now found the means to make money? Is that the reason for his return? Check his story... That will lead to a satisfactory answer...
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
actually money was not his problem though it was a selfish act he did when he saw my ex message in my phone greeting me merry christmas that time, my ex didnt know i was pregnant that time and his in london for work not thinking i already have new bf, now when he read it he thought that me and my ex reunited and he thought that the baby is not him but with my ex though i already prove him that my ex is in london for many years now but he was too blind to think of it. it was only jealousy thats why he left me.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
1 Jan 12
Why not give your daughter her rights.
Yes, she has all the right to have a father.
Besides, its for your daughter's sake so why not.
Who knows, maybe this is the best way for a reconciliation (if you still want to)
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
jaiho and adhyz, you guys are bot right, though im now thinking of what to do though i know that my family were helping me to support my baby and i understand them in fact im thinking if he really deserve to be forgiven but then at the back of my mind theres something telling me of why not give him a try and lets see if he will really deserve to be forgiven, now if not for the second time then maybe hen i will decide that his just nothing but a waste for me.
@Tibor1450 (207)
• Hungary
1 Jan 12
Your anger might tell you it's the best decision to decline the offer and never give his name to your child but it's the best to think everything over. Just sit down on a sunny afternoon and politely discuss and negotiate the future of the kid's name and citizenship. You guys are smart and clever, I'm sure you'll find the best decision which is good for both of you. Keep in mind that arguing around won't lead anywhere and you'll finish where you started the whole thing.
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
1 Jan 12
yes your right, though we havent talk nor discuss it in person yet but just through chat though he himself claim that the baby really looks like him thats why he wanted to give his name though my family is too angry for him. though i talk to my mother and tell her that its for our baby's sake so sh will become a complete person bearing her father's last name though i dont know if she deserve to have it after what he did to us.
@Tibor1450 (207)
• Hungary
1 Jan 12
The best thing is to politely discuss. I understand the seriousness of the topic, but relax, there is always a way around everything.
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
thank you, actually for almost 2 years of not seeing him nor talking to him, i cant imagine what will i do when i see him in person though i know that i need to be relax and be in control for my baby sake..
@Neriz69 (1093)
• Philippines
3 Jan 12
You know him better than any of us, I mean he's not a bad guy right? Check on his motives, giving his name to your daughter is actually giving him access (custody) to your daughter. You don't have to say yes right away, think about it long and hard. He can still give financial support even if the child doesn't have his name.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
1 Jan 12
I wouldn't give his name to your child either. If he couldn't be there for your child when your were pregnant and 2 yrs of life he should be darn lucky you even allow her to see him. How about that back child support?
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
we didnt talk about child support yet as we didnt talk in person yet, i guess we need to settle things first, though im still undecided of giving his right for my child's name. i am really undecided now. though i know that child support will follow once we accepted him again, what do you think.
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
people in general makes mistakes. there is no one perfect here. even steve jobs has his trials and errors before hitting the big time. it is always a good sign when someone comes back and wanted to start all over again. you and the father of your daughter may never be a couple anymore (or we dont know still what the future holds for you) but he will always be the father. good thing that the other half of your daughter is now filled.... i have a friend who until now is looking for her father. and my wife has a cousin who is still looking for his mother... the missing piece is still missing and i am happy for your child that she will no longer look for that piece when she grows up for it is right there already. all you need now is to talk... you need to tell him one by one his responsibilities and obligation of you decided to use his name. there is always a reason for everything... and he has his reason why came back.
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
yes i know, even me makes mistakes though i also become so selfish sometimes, i know im not god to just forget and forgive though lets see what will happened, it depends to his explanation, it makes me cry to think that my child someday will think that her life have a missing piece without her father with her growing up nor not even seeing nor knowing him, though lets see what will happen.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
4 Aug 12
My apologies for the late response, but because of health issues and school I am 8 months behind on responding to discussions. Did this man ever give you anything other than making you pregnant? Did he support you in any way? Why does he all of a sudden want to give his name to your child or make her a dual citizen. That part wouldn't be so bad as there are advantages to being Canadian that we don't have as Americans, but I don't think the deal is really worth it. It would be one thing if he had been involved with raising the child in some way for even a while but it sounds like that is not the case at all. Does the child know anything about her father? Of course she is too young to know anything right now, but if you choose to allow her to make the choice when she is of age then that might work. If he is willing to wait until she is older then I might allow it but in no other way would I do so. What did you decide to do in the end (if anything)? Have a great weekend!!!
@jdyrj777 (6528)
• United States
3 Jan 12
Whenever i know a unmarried female that wants her baby to have the daddys name i always advise her not to. The reason being is it gives him too much parental power. I once knew i girl that gave her baby daddys name and the father came and took her child away from her. Plus in the case where the father is from another country. They could want other things from it such as citizenship. When i give this advise sometimes they listen and sometimes not. I guess they wnat the baby to have daddy name for sentimental reasons. But my best advise is not to do it.
@carol2532001 (467)
• Jamaica
1 Jan 12
I think you need to consult a lawyer about what rights he will have once you have acknowledged the fact that he is the father of your child. You need to put emotions aside and look at the legal connotations and how it will affect your child now and in the future. What if he can prove that you are an unfit mother (whether it is true or not) and take her away from you? That is just one scenario. Do everything legally and make sure there are no loopholes that he can use against you.
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
yes your right, i guess i should take aside emotional feelings her and think of custody as i know he can take her away from me as he have money to do it than me. though im also thinking of child support like what if he will say that he will only give money if we uses his last name, now its a big problem.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
2 Jan 12
The answer is absolutely not. He is either the father, or he is not the father. Don't make decisions based on superficial concepts like citizenship.
He is not her father anymore. For whatever reason you two gave that up. So the answer is 'no'.
You do however need to find a husband, and a father for your child. You need someone that can be a role model for her, as to what a man is supposed to be. Or she'll end up making the same mistake you did. End the cycle. Find someone who can be a man for her.
@garson (884)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Which country are you in? US?
What was the problem with the ex? I would be curious if he physically abused or hit you or something else?
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
2 Jan 12
Hi Homeshoppers,
I would not trust that at all. He has had nothing to do with the child for 2 years??? I hope you listen to your family on this one. If you give him dual citizenship then he will have rights as a parent. If he were to take your daughter over the line and not bring her back then there would be little you could do about it because legally, he is her parent as well. I don't know but I would be concerned about why after all this time he shows up and wants to have all these changes. I would not do it if I were you. Has he paid any child support or in any way been a part of the child's life?
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
2 Jan 12
Well, in my opinion in your case. Better to used the surname of your ex to your daughter so that it may not be a problem in the future.It is for child sake which maybe beneficial to your daughter in the future. Because there maybe time for her to ask who is her father. But on the case your ex want your daughter change citizenship, is not negotiable...
It depend on you to decide because he was left you when you need someone to help due to your condition.
@Bamboee (645)
• United Arab Emirates
2 Jan 12
I am sorry to know your going through such a difficult time my friend. I hope things get better for you. I believe you should really think it over, I know how tearing apart it is, that he left you when you needed him the most. But its not about you anymore, its about the little angel in your life. She deserves to have the name of her father. No matter what it might be, she will question you one day about him and you cant hide the truth. I believe you should really sit with some wise people from your family including your ex and come to a decision that is favorable for the little angel.
Best of luck!