Science and the Bible

@CODYMAC (1356)
San Diego, California
January 3, 2012 1:01pm CST
Since I believe that YAHVAH (GOD) created everything, he must have created the laws of science. With that in mind, how is it that more people can not see this? Science has proven that the laws of the universe have an order, and that alone would be enough for me to conclude that a creator was involved in its construction. If science shows order, then why are scientists so opposed to the thought of a creator? I would like to know your thoughts on this matter. Thank you and may YAHVAH bless you. :) :)
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@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
4 Jan 12
If you read the bible my friend you find out that science is existed before
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
6 Jan 12
Before those scientist discover that world is round. Jesus Christ itself and apostle tell us that the earth is round...they also said about the revolution which the earth is revolve 24 hour in one day and many more...even the invention of Tank, Jet Fighter plane
4 Jan 12
I agree totally. The bible was a recount of that time from multiple people and multiple points of view. But as as can be proven by the childhood game of whispering a sentence around a room from one person to another the end sentence is rarely ever close to the beginning one. I believe it is crazy to say that the bible would be %100 correct. I do believe the stories told in the scriptures do hold keys to the secrets of the universe and god. As many of my post will show I am a strong believer in the natural sciences and philosophy of Walter and Lao Russell. I am not trying to "convert" anyone in their beliefs, however, simply pass on information that i wish had been shown to me a long time ago. Examples of how Walter says the bible was "misrepresented" is in the holy trinity. The two equal opposites of Walters teachings that create the entire universe out of love, are represented by him as; The centering god which is the zeroing force that allows the opposites to exchange, and the opposites themselves that are equal in every way they are the father and mother. This was misrepresented in the bible as the father son and the holy spirit. I believe as does Walter that during the ages when woman could not dare be viewed as equals to men then would it not be an obvious "motive" for the son (another man) to take the mother side of the trinity thus hiding the true nature of the two "sexed" "paired" opposites of nature that Jesus tried to spread the word of.
7 Jan 12
I agree. Jesus knew more than any scientist today because he was "one with his father" and creator. That is why when you look back through time at all the mystics not just Jesus, but all who have been enlightened describe being one with their father and creator and oneness with the universe. They all also describe god as the light. Jesus was not the "son" literally of god he was a human that rose the the understanding of the universe and became one with it through his understanding that he "IS" one with the universe.
@BJmalone (52)
3 Jan 12
If you have never heard of Walter Russell, i highly recommend his writings to you. i can see by your post that you have realized obviousness of a god and even the fact of the way the universe works from god. There is no way I could do justice to the way Walter Russell explains it so I will just say there is a site called www.feandft.com I am in no way affiliated with this site, I just loved the information about Mr. Russell. I have accepted his teaching as fact and I believe completely in a supreme being that all creation is based upon. The short version of his teaching is that creation as we "see" it is an illusion that god created out of an expression of love. He created two opposite conditions (evident through nature; gravity-radiation compression-decompression "atoms"- space) if you look through nature you can see that if one of those conditions did not only exist but give itself to the other that neither could exist. So in the end every single thing that we see, touch, or feel is an illusion based on the law of love where two "condition" exchange with each other to maintain a perfect balance for eternity. I hope this is the kind of answer you were looking for. God Bless.
@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
4 Jan 12
Hello, BJmalone. You wrote "creation as we "see" it is an illusion that god created out of an expression of love." I see that it as truth as well. I have never heard of Walter Russell, but I will look into his studies because I have an expanding interest in science. You also wrote about light in this discussion to another person commenting on my post. I truley believe the scripture that states that "YAHVAH (GOD) is light..." 5 points to ponder. YAHVAH 1: creator of all things, visible-mass and invisible-energy. nothing exists that was not created by him. Light 1: existing as particles and waves is the substance that all mass exists of when broken down into its smallest parts. All things are made from light(energy) or created from light. YAHVAH 2: never changes, is constant, or immutable. Is the same at rest or in motion. Light 2: Its speed is constant and immutable. its speed is the same at rest or in motion. Special and general reletivity show this. Interaction states do effect constancy though. YAHVAH 3: Is all knowing, all powerful, and always present. Light 3: With electromagnatism is always present and fills all space in the universe. Space is never empty. Light with electromagnatism communicates to all existance and consciousness with laws that light created. This force of structure and intelligence is a live all powerful force that thinks, feels, hears, touches and interacts to true speech and communication that this live force created. YAHVAH 4: the head of all things. The beginning and the end. Past, present, and future are now. YAHVAH is eternal, with eternal laws. There are only repeating cycles, set to a pre-existing consciousness. Light 4: The speed of light is the beginning and the end. Everything is framed off of this framework. Space traveling with time. YAHVAH 5: Is spirit, light, love. YAHVAH is alive. "because in him we live, move, and have our existance." He penetrates all length, width, height, and depth. Light 5: Natures laws reveal the course of consciousness in energetic states acting out on mass. This allows us to see intelligent design. True order carried out in patterns, and cycles. That is it for now. May YAHVAH bless you in all you do. :)
4 Jan 12
As you will see if and when you look into Walter like I did. you notice things very particular. I can see by this post that we are probably %99 on the same page. As I found in his writings he "sounds" like god. The words that, he says, were given to him by god to further mankind are very very similar to mystics of all ages. It seems not a coincidence to me that people that have "heard" gods knowledge would all sound alike and DO. When reading your writings i can see that you have at least found the information. If you have taken that information into you as part of your own knowledge then you will feel very redundant reading Russells' teachings because you already "know" it. when you look back on mystics throughout ages you see things that don't change. God being light is one of them. i had always taken this as a figure for something else. Such as light being a metaphor for greatness. But the more I study the more I see that god is literally the "light" that made our universe. Therefore his body is the universe.
• Australia
25 Jan 12
Without people objecting to God there would be no such thing as FAITH. God actually lets Satan do evil so that we have a choice. Without evil we wouldn't have the choice to follow him or not, we wouldn't need to rely on him to get us through hard times. i think that they are against him because they are people of logic. They have learned to base their opinions on things such as equations and experiments. It isn't in their capacity to base something on Faith and Grace. And thats the way God made them, i'm not saying that they won't ever believe. But i certainly think that when scientists who are against a creator come to God. Then there is a whole heap of very powerful ministry that comes with that also. Have you ever seen Case for a creator? or The case for Christ?
@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
25 Jan 12
Hello, pinkranga7. I have seen the books by Josh McDowell, and I think that from his perspective, being a lawyer he needed to see the facts. I have an anylitical mind and need to piece everything together, after I break it down. I know that if more people went after YAHVAH like they go after work or whatever their passion is, they will find the truth. That is my hope anyway. I feel that in their hearts, something is out there that they cannot explain... Thank you for your response, and may YAHVAH bless you.