Have you noticed that some posts about women could be said about any genre?...
By marguicha
@marguicha (224064)
Chile
January 8, 2012 11:47am CST
I ofter wonder why would women and men be artificially divided in so many wys. I understand about normal divisions that have to deal with our bodies. I even understand that women and men will look at a problem in a different way. But, would a post about jeans or shoes be put under "women"? Would you think that "cooking" is a task that only women do? After all, some of the best chefs are men.
How do you feel when a rol that belongs to us as human beings is labeled as "woman craft"? Share. As for me, I get pissed.
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11 responses
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
8 Jan 12
LOL. I can relate. As my grandmother use to tell me just consider the source.
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@momof3kids (1894)
• Singapore
9 Jan 12
I personally hate to cook. Not exactly because of the food I produce but because i have to clean it up. Its a big no no in my view. I am sure chefs dun do the clean up. Clean ups are menial and they are NOT a womans job.
Roles are hard to define nowadays when women become more financially independent so i am also pissed if i or my daughters are stereotyped to do certain jobs. Here i make the boy do chores and the girl also. I try to be equal in all things.
In terms of craft i dun see it as an insult. I consider some crafts are for men like carpenting (i wouldnt like to have sweated over carpenting) and crafts for women are sewing and knitting.
If your crafts can turn in big money, no body looks at it as womens or mens, they look at it with respect because it has become big financially.
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@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
10 Jan 12
Sewing is not just for women as it happens. The best haute couture names belong to men. And the word "tailor" brings a memory of a man who made other man´s troussers.
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
8 Jan 12
I dated a male nurse when I was much younger. I had a hard time understanding why so many people had a problem with that. Too many people make jokes about something like that, a male in a traditionally female role.
Maybe it's because too many people are incapable of learning and accepting new things. They were raised with the "women are nurses, men are doctors" attitude and simply cannot see it any differently. It's really sad that so many minds are so closed. They miss so much that life can offer.
I don't get pissed at people with closed minds but it does make me sad that they can't open their minds to new possibilities.
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@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
9 Jan 12
It bothers me a lot because I have been respected all my life and have seen the harm that lack of respect, even in small things, do to people. When I say small thing, I also allude to a problem about a male nurse. Maybe the male nurse does not care so much, but the people who don´t accept it are throwing lots of negative energy to their surroundings. They will teach their children and thus continue a chain of bigotry.
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@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
9 Jan 12
Stereotypes of any kind lead to abuse and disrespect because we, as people, are unique. All topics of interest can be appealling to both sexes: we are interested in something as persons, not about women or men.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
8 Jan 12
I don't like it either. I think gender classification is very narrow minded. Some of the best cooks are men and I have met women that have loved to work outside alot more than they did inside. I also think that it makes people afraid to step outside of the the box these kind of classifications put them in. Sometimes they can find happiness and great talent by forgetting about what society says is for a woman or a man.
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@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
9 Jan 12
If we are not afraid, then we must speak for the ones who don´t dare. I have been respected all my life, so I don´t need to call myself a feminist (which I am not) but a person. I wish all people had those rights to be respected from the moment they are born.
@tkonlinevn (6438)
• Vietnam
9 Jan 12
Hi,
I understand how your feeling. But you know, there are many jobs are more suitable than man. That's truth.
I and my husband do housework together. But I realize that I can do better than him.
So, you shouldn't get pissed!
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@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
9 Jan 12
Of course that there are some jobs that one spouse does better than the other. My husband was better at climbing ladders and I was better at cooking (except for a couple of fish dishes he did VERY well). My husband never washed the dishes because I did not like how he did them. But my brother does it better than I.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
17 Jan 12
I think that it is ridiculous to think there is "men's" work and "women's" work. Anyone that is physically capable of doing a particular task should be allowed to do it without the stigma of doing something that is normally considered to be a task of the other gender. It is sometimes hard for me to get used to male nurses, but they are far more common now than they were when I was younger. I also see many women working in construction which is surprising to me since I always think of that kind of work to be too hard for women, but I guess that is just because it is too hard for me. I think it is great when men are not afraid of appearing feminine because they do a woman's work.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
17 Jan 12
I know my brother does a lot more cooking than his wife does...and he is pretty good at it too. I don't do much cooking or anything else for that matter. I like to think that I do better at "thinking" things (accounting) than at "doing" things (sewing). I am not bothered by male nurses, especially if they are cute . Have a great week!!!
@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
19 Jan 12
Jeezz, Debbie!!! So now you are on the lookout for handsome male nurses. I met one, a long time ago. He was the cute type.
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@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
17 Jan 12
I wholly agree with you, Debbie. Some people are more capable of certain jobs than others and that has nothing to do with gender. The best paellas I have eaten have been made by a friend of mine who is an astronomer (physics, PhDs and the like). But he is also a wonderful cook. I am sure that men feel more comfortable with male nurses depending on the kind of illness they have.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
9 Jan 12
Hi marguicha..
Sometimes a single topic carries to many interests. Say about cooking... as you have mentioned. It can be post to "cooking", "life". "question and answer" and many more and in many cultures women are the main cook of a household, hence people easily prefer "women" for it but i hope, they dont mean any division. lol
have a nice time.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
12 Jan 12
For me, the place where I always had problems was when I was good at something that was traditonally thought of to be a man's thing. The best example of that which I can think of is the fact that I've always been good at science and math. However, when I was in school, I had a hard time getting to take the classes that I wanted to take because I had a teacher that didn't think that women should be good in science and math.
@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
12 Jan 12
I hated that at school too. At my time, people chose some subjects in secondary school. Whoever took language and philosophy instead of math meant that they were waiting to be married. OMG!!! At that time I wanted to study philosophy and do a postgraduate course in Paris (which I never did because I fell in love and got married) I wonder if that was a curse the teachers threw upon us. But I don´t regret it because my husband was as good a man as you can get.
@ClassyLady1 (109)
• United States
9 Jan 12
No need to 'get pissed' over such a trivial thing! Getting pissed only raises one's blood pressure unnecessarily.
When I was growing up in West Texas, there was no differential between'man and woman' chores. There were four of us: Daddy, Mama, my brother and myself - two males and two females. Along with my brother, I did 'outside' chores which consisted of milking cows, feeding the livestock, helping the cows and sows with their birthing problems and cleaning up after them. Also, along with the entire family, I drove tractors plowing the fields, planting and caring for the crops which kept us alive.
On 'house cleaning' days, we all had our share of things to do, none of them being designated as 'man or woman' chores.
I grew up with the attitude that I could do anything I wanted or set my mind to do. I started bookkeeping for the family farm at the age of 14 or so, I have worked in many offices as a bookkeeper and advanced to tax accounting through the years. Having driven the farm tractors and other large vehicles, I was not afraid to learn to drive a semi-tractor/trailer rig when that became my option to have a life of relative comfort and peace when I was in my mid-forties. I drove a truck cross country for seventeen and a half years (this type of work is/was considered 'a man's work' when I began'), ending that career when I was 10 days past my 63rd birthday - ended by a heart attack not ended by my choice.
In my mind, there is no such thing as "man's work or woman's work" - I think that is an archaic attitude and is only in the minds of those who know no better.
@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
10 Jan 12
Although my life has had less hard work than yours, I have not sensed in mine any difference between sexes. While married, we both did what we did better. Before that, when I was growing up, I was respected by my parents as a person. Unfortunatly, my case is not the mayority.
@marguicha (224064)
• Chile
12 Jan 12
Your answer made my day! I used to do a lot of things and still do as many as I can in spite of a **** lymphoma that had me on chemo most of last year. But I still garden and read and love to cook. I used to do many of what is usually called "man´s work" and THAT is what I don´t like. I am not more feminine now, because I´m older and can only make the apricot jam from my tree but need someone to climb up the ladder to pick them. People are people, and they deserve respect as such. I save my online earnings for vacations as I also love to visit places and meet new people. I do hope that my oncologist will give me a break soon to go somewhere to have fun. Thanks for sharing your life.
@ClassyLady1 (109)
• United States
10 Jan 12
In no way did I mean to indicate that my life was full of hard work - though all the hard work led me to be successful in many genres. Of that, I am proud. I can do most anything from cooking, sewing, gardening all the way through to carpentry. I am preparing to remodel my bedroom (I live and travel in my 31' 5th wheel RV); the bedroom is 'wall to wall' bed at this time with hardly enough floor space to get around it in order to make it up. With the help of my oldest son, I/we will remove the bed and rebuild it into a twin size fashioned after a Captain's bed with drawers and doors to access the storage area underneath. Not only will this give me more flor space, it will increase my accessible storage and cut out some of my clutter (items I want to keep which don't have a place to 'live' yet). In a few days, I will be clearing out and putting away things like yarn for my knitting/crocheting projects, my ongoing quilting project - a quilt being made of well worn jeans cross stitched by hand together in squares with embroidery floss with the seams to the right side so they will fray and give a texture and interest to the finished project. When I get the new bed done, I will probably finish that one in short order.
I loved (almost) every minute of my trucking days - and by no means was it 'hard work' just long hours and for little compensation at times. The worst part of it was mostly the archaic attitude of the male truckers I was on the road with - most of those with bad attitudes toward female truckers were much younger and felt they were being threatened by a woman. ;-) Obviously, not much self confidence there! If not for the heart attack taking me off the road, I would still be out there! My "version" of trucking now is traveling in my 5th wheel rig and visiting places I only could pass through/by as a trucker - and I have a LONG list of them!
Thanks for your comments.
@rebelann (113071)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Mar 20
It's an ageless dilemma in many cultures. Men hunt and women clean house or something like that. These days the whole hunting idea has little place in most cultures because now we have slaughterhouses to kill the cattle, sheep, fowl or lamb but men feel they need to assert that they are the stronger of the sexes and has total control. Sometimes I feel like they have inferiority complexes.