Obama's State of the Union Address and HEALTH CARE:
By mehale
@mehale (2200)
United States
January 25, 2012 5:50pm CST
Ok, I realize that this will make a lot of people mad, and that they will probably call me an "Obama basher", BUT......
In his State of the Union Address, Obama stated that (per Fox News, link will follow) "OBAMA: "Our health care law relies on a reformed private market, not a government program."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/24/fact-check-obamas-2012-state-union/#ixzz1kW4b9n1F
But, I tend to agree with their fact check, that that statement is only "HALF TRUE". They site the facts that over half of the people expected to gain coverage through Obamacare will be on a GOVERNMENT program, while the other half will be enrolled in private health care programs, but WILL RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES to make them more affordable.......which is still, guess what.....A GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE PROGRAM. Plus, let us not forget that most of us will be required to have health insurance by 2014 under his plan, whether we can afford it or not.
While I agree that having health insurance is a good thing, I also don't agree that forcing it on people and families that can't afford it - or forcing them to pay a fine, that they also can't afford - is not right. Many American families are struggling simply to find work an keep food on the tale and a roof over their heads in todays economy. How can they afford to pay yet another bill, that the government deems fit to force down their throats. Another thought on this, what about the homeless? How can they afford health insurance?
Ok, I realize that Fox News is sometimes (well according to a lot of people...here especially, most times) very biased against Obama, I have to agree with them on this one.
What is your take on the subject of Obama's health care bill, and his statement in the State of the Union Address?
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
27 Jan 12
Honestly I don't know. I just don't understand how they can force us to purchase something else that we can't afford. My family can't afford it either, so I understand what you mean. It is hard enough just to find steady work right now, keep food on the table, a roof over our heads, and enough gas in the car to get back and forth to work. This is at least in my opinion scary stuff!
@mehale (2200)
• United States
27 Jan 12
At least you live close enough to a city with busses to take advantage of them. That is expensive, yes, but a big help. We live about 5 miles outside of town, and about 20 from the closest city busses or taxi service. That means that we have to have a vehicle, gas, and auto insurance as well. Sigh....a never ending circle of bills.
@jdyrj777 (6528)
• United States
27 Jan 12
Ya i hear ya. Im on food stamps. I havent needed those since my kids were at home and little. I work but its not enough. I have to donate plasma just to make ends meet. When i dont make requirmemnts to donate then i have to make a sign and go begging somewhere. I dont even have the luxury of a car. I have to take the city bus which is also expensive.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
27 Jan 12
I presume that it is like Canada in that if you are on welfare or social security, you get your health care paid for. I guess that is the government health care, but the rest of you have to pay for private health care. Up here we get a basic health care for everyone, but the rest we pay for. The exception is that if you have a very critical illness like als or cancer, but then they get much of the moneys through donations.
Forcing people to buy health care is wrong. Yes the homeless cannot afford health insurance. And since they do not have fixed addresses, they cannot evne qualify for social security. What does Obama expect these people to do? Conveniently die?
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
27 Jan 12
Exactly! These are things to think about that obviously he did not when instituting his mandate that we have to have health insurance or pay a fine. Here is something else to think about, if you can't afford the insurance or pay for it, then how in the heck can you afford or have the money to pay the fine for NOT having it. It seems to me to be a set up for a vicious cycle.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
26 Jan 12
If things are even 1/10th true in politics, they're hardcore facts. It all depends on where you stand. It's a very dirty game, and the person telling whole truths is always the oddity.
My thoughts on healthcare reform have always been the same: Maybe if the government cleaned up its act, people would be more favorable of government fixes to problems.
Just ask Native Americans how government-controlled healthcare is working out for them. But hurry. They're dying pretty damn young, and government spends more money per person to insure them than someone would pay for their entire family with private insurance.
The biggest problem I see with the healthcare issue is government. Obama and people of his ilk truly, honestly, wholeheartedly believe that government should intercede and fix problems in this country from the highest level down. But they're oblivious to the fact that enormous government and endless bureaucracy is the biggest enabler of fraud and waste in the country.
They could force everyone to buy health insurance. They could tax capital gains at 60% and income of millionaires at 80%. They could shut down loopholes. They could end the wars. But at the end of the day, they would still waste money. They would still mismanage everything.
As to Obama's SOTU - I heard nothing different from his last dozen speeches. Just more people standing and applauding and getting flustered when he speaks. That particular aspect of Obama isn't going away any time soon. He can still bring out the emotion in people. He's like the Beatles of American Presidents. But he also seems to believe that America's system in even having a President is a bit flawed. His tone and his actions seem to paint him as a man who would appreciate a role as dictator.
Not that he'd be an evil one. I won't paint him with that brush. But he certainly seems the type that wants government to control the nation.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
26 Jan 12
I agree with you completely! There are things that the government does need to do and even control, but there are also things that it needs to stay out of, but for some reason Obama does not seem to get that! And as far as the SOTU, I also have to agree....he was simply saying the same things he always does, and doing his best to get all Americans to fall in line with him. Mostly, more campaign nonsense, rather than real and achievable solutions to the problems our nation and economy are facing.