Obama has been Subpoenaed to Court in Georgia
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
Grand Junction, Colorado
January 25, 2012 11:45pm CST
I have searched for other discussions on this but can't find any.
So I'm not interested to debate whether this proceeding has any legality, what I'm interested in is whether you believe that the President is above the law in not having to appear?
From what I can find, he has been subpoenaed to appear in a Georgia court room Thursday January 26 at 9:00 am EST. I also found that he is in Las Vegas well into Thursday then off to Denver and has no plans to appear.
So I ask what do you think of elected officials being above the laws that govern the average citizens of this country? If you or I didn't appear in court under a subpoena we would have a warrant sworn out for our arrest. Why should it be any different for people that hold office?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
26 Jan 12
Since he lives under the delusion that he is some kind of royalty, and above the law, he has chosen not to comply with the subpoena. If the judge has any backbone whatsoever, he will issue a bench warrant for Obama's arrest.
So far there have been 2 or 3 other judges who issued subpoenas for Obama. Those judges proved they aren't worth their paychecks or their robes by letting Obama off the hook.
It's one thing for Obama to live in his fantasy world, but another thing for spineless cowards in judge costumes playing along.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
26 Jan 12
This judge has not found him in contempt of court, at least not as of yet. I had thought that with the Secretary of State's letter last evening that at least the attorney would have shown up, but I was wrong. He is apparently above the law also. Most likely this judge won't do anything about it either. Sad that he (Obama) and the other politicians and now attorney's representing Obama feel that the laws don't pertain to them the way they do to all of us.
It wouldn't have taken a whole lot of effort to show up and bring the documents he was ordered to bring. After all he's just campaigning today.
@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
26 Jan 12
Maybe being the president allows you to make your own rules. I'm sure he has advisers that tell him what he can and can't do or what he should and should not do. I don't know if he has the legal right to not appear or not. He isn't a regular citizen, he is the President.
Wouldn't it be FUNNY if he got put in jail for a bench warrant? I wonder if a Georgia judge would actually seek his arrest for 'failure to appear'...?
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
26 Jan 12
Remember Nixon? "I AM NOT a CROOK!" Presidents just don't get arrested for their wrong doings, it seems.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
26 Jan 12
@ Pointless, I can't find anything that says that the President is exempt from the laws that average citizens must follow. So while he may not be an ordinary citizen, he is in fact a citizen. .
I agree that President's just don't get arrested, it is a shame that bad examples are set by people in power.
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@manleyjoe (1597)
• United States
26 Jan 12
I read this morning that he was boycotting the court. His attorney said that he was busy with US business, probably out campaigning using taxpayer money.
I don't think he can be held for contempt as it is only an administrative hearing. It could, however, mean that no one from Georgia can vote for him if his name is not on the ballot. Several other states are considering the same action.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
26 Jan 12
Subpoenaed for what? Your President is one of the most highly respected man in the world. The whole world has watched whilst the certain people have tried to destroy him from he first reached office. Why is this done? He has tried to help and so many people all just gang together to stop his plans to help the poorer people.
The rest of the world just looks on in amazement as we wish that we had him to run our countries. I do not know how he stands the hatred from his own people. He inherited the crisis - he did not cause it.
why do the people not support him? I watched his State of the Union address and was so impressed. If I was american I would be so proud to have him in office. I genuinely would like to know why he is hated. Can you tell me why? I look forward to receiving a response.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
26 Jan 12
He's being challenged that he isn't eligible to go on the Georgia Ballot in the primaries.
This discussion isn't about Obama and his presidency, it's about whether he or any other politician is above the laws of the land. I'm sure that their are lots of discussions that would give understanding to your questions.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
26 Jan 12
Let's start at the beginning. The President has always been and will always be criticized for the things he does or does not do. That is part of the First Amendment and part of being the leader of a country. It doesn't matter who is in office Republican or Democrat. So nothing in there exempts President Obama from getting criticized nor has he been criticized any more than any other President has been.
Second, the President has not had a very good record when it comes to spending. Have you looked at the deficit numbers lately? What exactly did the stimulus do? Not even the Obama administration can give you a clear answer on that one. At best you get a bunch of might and maybes instead of hard facts.
Third, he has failed at his fundamental job as President. He has failed to actually get a Federal Budget passed. Yes, that is one of his actual jobs as President. So barring everything else, the failure to get Congress to pass a Federal Budget is also his failure. Put it this way, what President of a company would survive without having an operating budget? This is my number one criticism of his Presidency. You will note is has nothing to do with his political leaning. It goes to the core of getting the job done.
If he can't even get Congress to pass a Budget, what makes him deserve a second term as President?
Don't give me all of these excuses about Congress. It won't wash. He got the health care bill passed. If you want to know exactly where that budget is, look at the Library of Congress website and you will see it is still sitting on Harry Reid's desk.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
26 Jan 12
Thank you for the information. I believe that no politician should be above the laws of the land. I just feel that the pharmaceutical and oil companies ganged up against him. @sierras236. Thank you for your response. I can see that it is the same allover the world. People care passionately about their politics. I am the same in my country. I appreciate your response
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Jan 12
That is a good point and no...I don't think that officials of any kind should be considered above the law. Your right..if it were you or me..they would have our tails locked up in the pokey so fast our heads would spin.
There have actually been a lot of mistakes throughout history where officials have been above the law...you would think something would have been learned about that by now.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
26 Jan 12
Do we really learn from history? I remember history teachers telling us that's why history is important to learn from the past and avoid making the same mistakes. No one should be above the law.
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
6 Feb 12
It turns out that the birther case is so utterly devoid of merit that even when President Obama doesn't show up the judge rules against them.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80417613/Farrar-Welden-Swensson-Powell-v-Obama-Judge-Malihi-Final-Decision-Georgia-Ballot-Challenge-2-3-2012
Some choice quotes:
The Court finds the testimony of the witnesses, as well as the exhibits tendered, to be of little, if any, probative value, and thus wholly insufficient to support Plaintiffs' allegations.
That's purely on the merits of Plaintiff's claims, without a single objection or cross examination from the Defense.
Plaintiffs contend that, because his father was not a U.S. citizen at the timeof his birth, Mr. Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the Office of the President of the United States. The Court does not agree.
The "Wong Kim Ark" Court extensively examined the common law of England in its decisionand concluded that Wong Kim Ark, who was born in the United States to alien parents, became a citizen of the United States at the time of his birth.
That's what they call in obscure latin legalese a "precedent."
Let us hear no more about this utterly meritless argument.
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@Tampa_girl7 (50580)
• United States
21 May 16
What did he have to go about I wonder ?
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