...I knew it...
By jeanneyvonne
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
Philippines
January 27, 2012 9:17am CST
Somehow, all my expectations regarding this impeach court proceedings (also known as coronavela, impeachment serye and all applicable other monikers) are proving to be true.
First, it gonna be long. It's the objections from the defense and 93 witnesses from the prosecution. great, need more popcorn. I think director's cut is impossible to make.
Second, in my opinion, the prosecution sometimes can't get their act together. Sometimes the arguments on the floor are so annoying and frustrating that even hearing it from the other room makes my high pressure go up.
Third, the infamous quotes and the surprising comic relief. I think everybody has one. If you have, do share.
Fourth, lengthy speeches, manifestation, argumentation etc. I hope the Senate transcriber is getting a higher pay for this.
How is your current assessment and perception of the impeachment trial? Good? Bad? average?
8 responses
@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
I am one of those following the impeachment proceedings. it is a lot better than the telenovelas on TV. This is a real courtroom no tone that will see in another few years or so. it is interesting if you just take the time to understand and analyze the discussions. My only regret is the prosecution who stammer and fumble in the proceedings and has to be assisted by the senators themselves to get to the point they are working for. I am not siding with anyone but I hope that justice will prevail and not according to public opinion.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
The court has its own entertainment value and sometimes, I seeking it more than the appropriate formats of entertainment. I have the same thing with the prosecution and their delivery,. But I am relived that Tupas is to be replaced. i feel that he's just a kid when in the floor with Cuevas and the senator0-judges. I cannot erase the moment when he asked the presiding Officer for leniency and failed to give or specify what he or the prosecution wants.
Hope this ends soon, with justice in tow. This do get boring after a while. Let's hope frustration doesn't kill our entertainment first.
@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
The proceedings tend to be boring especially when Senator Miriam Santiago is not around. All those in the prosecution sure look like kids when faced with Justice Serafin Cuevas not just because of the wide gap in age but the experience. However, by Monday, boring or not, I will still watch the proceedings. It separates the men from the boys.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
30 Jan 12
Impeachment. More fun in the Philippines.
I read that Clinton's impeachment trial lasted for only 17 days, and the prosecution was allowed to present all pieces of evidence they wanted without too many objections. Here, it's objection left and right, as if Cuevas is being paid per objection. Sounds impressive, but really the arguments are rehashes only of their argument on quantum of evidence and the issue on ill-gotten wealth. If this were a legal forum where facts are obfuscated in the name of due process, then the defense will win. Look at the prosecution who seem to be trial babies, with absolutely no trial experience, who refuse to come to court prepared, and instead continue to try the case in the court of public opinion. Where they are winning mostly because they come off as folksy - does Juan care that the ill-gotten wealth is not alleged in the pleading?
To be honest, I don't care for Corona's appointment as CJ. Be that as it may, he must be given his day in court. The defense however should do a better job of winning the public over because it would be disastrous if CJ would be acquitted and nobody believes in the acquittal. The prosecution should do a better job in the impeachment court as well as they are doing in the media crucifying CJ for all to see. It makes you wonder how Congress functions - do they also go to the hearings unprepared? Scary thought.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
30 Jan 12
Yes, it is a scary thought. More so if this trial isn't not conducted in the proper way and closed without blemish. Its predecessor, the Estrada impeachment, left a gaping hole in trying the people in the highest offices in the government. This trial should be the redeemer of that former trial and the example of the impeachment trials to come. Not doing so will make the public hanging up and dry and lessening faith in two branches of government in one throw.
I agree with your observations regarding the both camps. The only thing that i wish for is that this trial won't develop into more mockery and ridicule. sometimes, I appreciate the small, funny and trivial things in the trial - it helps to ease the tension as well as the overwhelming feelings towards the players. I just hope things will get better and more efficient this time around.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
28 Jan 12
It's funny that the only way i want to react on this issue and all other issues surrounding Philippine politics, to cover my ignorance on the matter is to say, "I simply don't care". Or at least I want to not to care. But then, it shows I care a bit because I'm responding to this discussion...only to want to say I dont care.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
Majority of the time, I am just like you. I don't bother with these kind of things but I like to check on the updates. This happening is a curios thing for me, at least.
Nice choice and arrangement of words.
@Queen_11 (307)
• Philippines
27 Jan 12
I haven't closely monitored the impeachment of the Chief Justice and I don't think it will get my interest in the coming days either. I find the trial very slow and disorganized most especially on the side of the prosecutors. I think that the television cameras should be removed in the impeachment court so that grandstanding by all sides can be avoided and thus speed up the questionings and presentations of all sides. They should just record the sessions that they'll be having so that the people can view them later.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
Mirrors most of my thoughts. I find it funny that these people are supposed to be lawyers and intellectuals, yet they look like fools on TV. They don't seem impressionable (except for a few personalities) and they seem to be 'lost' in a situation where they started their own living. sigh. I guess they aren't really TV material or as ready as much as they claimed to be.
@CatrionaLeslie (20)
• Philippines
27 Jan 12
I also hope the transcriber is getting a raise! I am no longer closely monitoring the Coronavela since I figured I have better things to do. From what I heard, Serafin Cuevas is doing everything he can to win this case with "technicalities". His mastery of the court proceedings gives the Defense team the upperhand. I wonder if Lito Lapid really knows what he is doing. With that said, I am calling for him to give his legal adviser a raise since it seems that every word has to be explained! With Mirriam Santiago's comeback, everyone expects a good laugh from time to time. I just hope she does not yell at those poor lawyers.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
Personally, cuevas is doing his job, as he is supposed to be. I don't think that applies as much to the prosecution as for the moment,. For that certain senator, I reserve my opinion to myself since my view of view isn't exactly stellar. Nice idea for a raise for his legal aide. I think he deserves it more than his boss.
I always though Miriam is the life of the party (Juan Enrile is the chaperone), even though I am not surprised that her blood pressure is triggered on what is happening on the floor. I think those lawyers needs a dressing down from time to time. and I guess Miriam is the best person to do and deliver it.
@mhimi_viduya (140)
• Philippines
27 Jan 12
they are wasting time on something not to be discussing at court. They should focus on helping poor Filipino families.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
Some people find that this should be pursued in order to hinder corruption and start distributing 'ill gotten wealth' to the poor. However, how long and how will the wealth will be distributed is another two big questions that needs to be asked.
@Neriz69 (1093)
• Philippines
29 Jan 12
It's gonna be like old cases, will be forgotten in a long while. Though i'm still hoping we get a conviction or something.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
28 Jan 12
...let's just hope it will all be on a happy note for most of us, although even though the chances of that happening is debatable in itself .