Awareness to all those who are against governemnet jobs?
By lekhya
@lekhya (819)
India
January 27, 2012 9:50am CST
I am starting this discussion with a good intention,in order to create awareness in some people who are against government servants.Let me clear the air plz...
Let me introduce myself to you...Firstly,I am a state government servant.I have joined the service in 2008 and i am a post graduate.
As many of u feel,its right that its hard to get a government job and its also right that many take bribes.But y do people blame "ALL" for that.
I have gone through written and interviews for getting selected.I haven't paid any one a penny.All these years i have worked very hard,struggled and fought for the public as their representative.I have written several petitions to government regarding public grevieances.Many think,we don't do any work and just chit-chat.I never had time for that till now.We even attended office on public holidays in case of emergencies.Its not the case only with me.ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WORKED HARD.I am now on leave and hence could spare some time here on mylot.
Coming to salary,i get a package of
5 responses
@madugulagopi (1093)
• India
28 Jan 12
Hi Lekhya,
First of all I appreciate that you have taken a government job despite having a post graduate degree from a good university. Regarding your question about the integrity of govt servants. Any institution is rated based on the lifestyle of the majority of people in it, in the same way when people talk about government offices, they talk about in general not a particular office specifically. We interact with govt servants on a daily basis and in mast of the situations people get frustrated with their attitude. The worst situations happen with MRO offices, Municipal offices. The situation is worse in rural areas. You might be working very hard but who knows what your superiors are doing. They might be giving hell to public. I also want to say that not all govt offices are like these. Railways is also a government agency and I know for sure that the guys over there do a hell of a job to serve the public, same with most of the government teachers also. So it is the general trend of the government servants that people are displeased about not everyone. Next about the low salaries, Software peoples salaries are linked with the performance of the company, if the company is in profits they get a good hike otherwise nothing and not every one gets a hike. There are a lot of performance evaluations done before we get a meager hike. I don't know how many government services have a performance linked salary hike. On the other hand government servants salary are based on the income that the government gets from people in the form of taxes. Are we ready to pay more tax? Are we ready to pay more for Gas, Petrol and electricity? Most of us would shout a big No as a reply to the above questions then how are you going to get big paychecks when people who are feeding you are not willing to pay more tax. I, being a software professional doesn't know when I would lose my job. There are thousands of people who lost their job during last recession and they came to roads withing a night and no one cared about them or even voiced their concerns. I heard that you atleast have worker unions to voice your concerns if you lose your job which is very highly unlikely.
@lekhya (819)
• India
28 Jan 12
You are the person who would better know my situation as we both hail from the same state..I accept that 70% of the government offices are corrupt.Because of them all are being blamed.But i being in the same stream i can't accept anyone blaming the entire agency for that.Even i myself have faced several such situations when i had to bribe the clerks for declaration of my post after training period.Its a shame and complete disaster of the governing officials.
@lekhya (819)
• India
29 Jan 12
Hi gopi,
i have left that discussion half answered,to continue with that....
The MRO and Municipal offices are really worst.Most of the staff there are mainly dependent on bribes.Railways is really a tough department to work with.As u said software people salaries are linked with the performance of the company.But THEY GET HIKES EVERY YEAR,unlike us for 5 years,which is very less.Other than these yearly hikes they even get performance oriented hikes,unlike us.DO U REALLY FEEL THAT PUBLIC TAXES ARE REALLY BEING UTILISED PROPERLY.There are a lot of scams.The only people that are being profited are our great politicians.They say that they don't have the funds to give us a good pay but that's not the real reason.THEY are utilizing them for their party benefits,agendas and scams.All those policies of government like"rupaiki kg biyyam","pavala vaddiki runam" are they not done with public money?Are they not from publictaxes?And the truth behind them is that the real ones are not getting benefited.They are all scams.And when it comes to our salaries u say about taxes and funds.That's not fair.Just by giving us a good salary they wont be under stake.By doing that we will able to work happily and genuinely i feel.We deserve that! 20,ooo/month is that a salary u feel an official should get.Can u make a living with such a low salary.That's the reason all educated people are moving to software and foreign countries.Only people like me who have to stay in their hometown prefer such jobs.The government should properly utilise the resources.They can definitely pay that sum and take action against corruption.
@lekhya (819)
• India
29 Jan 12
U might me feeling why im into this if im not happy with the pay....My answer is security.Some say u have fixed timings and its relaxing,its for those who do nothing and escape from working.If u really do some work then the superiors will suck ur blood.U have to work for 12 hrs/day when its essential.I have done that several times.
@SinfulRose (3527)
• Davao, Philippines
27 Jan 12
It seems to me lekhya, you are either whining or confused by people treat you badly because of your work status.
I cannot say much about the other things you wrote, because for one, I don't care whatever your work or background is as long as I know you are good, that's fine with me. If you were bad (to me), I would really make it my job to make your day a living inferno...if you know what I mean.
But you're good, lekhya, so you're safe from my life destructing insults. As for your question about "How should we survive?" I think I can give you an advice. It's a bit difficult to understand, but you'll know what I mean once you read books written by Robert Kiosaki.
Advice: Take advantage of your job. But don't just live until the next paycheck. For short, (I know people aren't satisfied with their salary so how to they mend this?) whatever amount is left in your Cash on hand - Expenses(Necessary Expenses such as food and taxes), invest it.
If you have enough to buy yourself an asset (something that will give you money not an addition to your expenses), buy an asset until your passive income (money generated by your assets)is greater than your expenses.
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I know my advice may confuse you but try to learn more about it and you'll understand it...Hope this helps. Happy MyLotting!
@SinfulRose (3527)
• Davao, Philippines
28 Jan 12
Actually, getting an increase in salary is a very rare fortune. As for getting another job, you're still bound to have it deducted by additional taxes such as income tax, daily expenses and additional non-generating income means that may hinder your intention to save up and have your income increase.
Let me just share this to all MyLot users who reads this:
I always observe that if whenever people's income (generated only by salary) increases, their expenses increases as well. In other words, changes nothing for them. So I learned that getting more money is not the answer to the lack of money problem.
--This is only according to what I've observed so far--
Honestly, I am still learning how to start with nothing. But I know this for sure: money is an illusion. It can only be generated by how we think.
For example: If I think that getting money is difficult, it'll be really difficult for me to get myself money. If I think I have no money, I will really have no money. If I think it's easy to get rich with nothing, I'll be rich starting with no income, no assets and no cash in hand (which I am still in the middle of starting to do for... hmm...5 hours and guess what... I already have money online--it's still small but it'll become BIGGER soon...because I'm thinking it'll be--I'm thinking like a farmer. XD). I'm not thinking I'll work hard to get lots of money. No, I am working hard to know more about money. Just getting them is the bonus usually.
If I was a spy, being online in MyLot everyday is merely my cover for actually investing in my financial education.
Do you know, lekhya, that your greatest money generating asset is your mind? If you believe in this, I suggest you start investing there. When I say investing this time, I don't necessarily mean you need to have money to start off your money making career. Think of it like this, the more you know, the more your options. The more options you have, the more choices you can choose from that is best for your situation. This does not only apply in financial situation but it is a fact in general circumstances.
This came from first hand experience, lekhya. When I started to invest my time and attention to increase my financial literacy, and when I look around even in my own room, I can "see money". I don't know how to really explain this but I see opportunity for almost everything I lay my eyes on...especially my laptop which I am currently am facing.
Still hoping this helps, Happy MyLotting!
@lekhya (819)
• India
29 Jan 12
Helm i agree that our mind is our greatest money generating asset.Its right only if we are able put that into use.Now that im on leave i could spend some time here in mylot.Once i return back to work i won't be having time even for my family.I have a lot of work there.As of now i have no plans because till now i was not successful in making money online.I have created a blog and tried many money making opportunities to start from nothing.I don't have any more options.Suggest me any if u can.And as u said the more money,the more the expenses and choices...Anyways u have been there for me always.I hope u will be there for me even when im into work.Happy mylotting!Have a great day dear friend.
@lekhya (819)
• India
28 Jan 12
Helm you are always there for me whenever in needed an advice.Thanks for that!That's not confusing at all.But i already have many commitments for that salary which i get.I have no option to invest.Now i am on leave and hence not getting salary.Soon I will return back to my job within a few months.If i get any increment i will definitely invest.I think it won't be sufficient for buying assets...Im planning to do some part time job to make some extra money for my own expenses and my parents.Till now i couldn't do anything for my parents,i wish i could do something for them.
@kukueye (1759)
• Malaysia
28 Jan 12
governemnt in my place is good in a sense, because for example , year 2011 , they got 2 paid raise, and atleast 2 bonus , log in 8am , got for breakfast fof 1 hour, then lunch time , then prayer time then tea time and then off finish work , work is slow and not finish never mind full of red tape and inefficient but less hour and good paid.NO many people can enter goverment work without connections.
@lekhya (819)
• India
29 Jan 12
I don't have connections,but still i am into it.Not all posts require recommendations.Low level and too high level posts require them but only at the last stage,may even in the interview.First u have to get qualified for that stage.I mean written test.Which is quite tough to get along with.We got a hike after 5 years and that not even 5% of the gross.Its too low and disappointing.Here teachers are being paid more than engineers according to the new appraisals.We are not able to digest that.We feel we deserve more.
@phoenix89 (385)
• India
27 Jan 12
Not all are wrong. Nobody says that. But it is true that most of them take bribe. I personally faced such incident. As I was not ready to bribe my 2 minute work actually took 2 weeks, and it is not because they were busy.
I never know what is your job. May be your are working very hard. But I think it is not right saying like "just completing b.tech". It is not so easy, to complete a b.tech, that it can be termed as "just completing." It takes lot of effort. As they say "wearer know where the shoe pinches."
@phoenix89 (385)
• India
28 Jan 12
Definitely sir you have the right to feel with so much achievement. But what I was saying is that it is not so easy as it looks passing engineering you know that.
My brother is in a software company and he has to work actuall over 12 hours in all the seven days of week. He hardly get any leave.
I am an engineering student too. I know how much effort it takes to be a engineer.
@rubbershot (173)
• Kenya
28 Jan 12
Not all public servants are corrupt. In the past government jobs were looked down and resources plundered by corrupt and greedy officials. Today, most government jobs pay better than private sectors.
@lekhya (819)
• India
29 Jan 12
Even today the resources are plundered by corrupt and greedy officials.The real culprits are the politicians behind them.Necessary steps are to be taken to arrest corruption.Proper strict measures will definitely serve the purpose.Only central government jobs pay better and have good facilities, unlike state government jobs."All is not well" here as many feel..