Student suspended for taking a pciture in class. . .of his teacher SLEEPING!
By Suzieqmom
@Suzieqmom (2755)
United States
January 31, 2012 9:02am CST
Has anyone else heard about this story, and does anyone else think it is RIDICULOUS? Apparently, a student in an Oklahoma public school took a picture of his teacher SLEEPING in class, when class was in session. Guess who got suspended? Not the teacher--but the student. Why? Because he violated the school policy which bans cell phones from being brought to school. I guess we can see why they don't want the kids to have cell phones. . .lol.
I dunno, I hardly think the student should be the one facing suspension in this scenario. . .what do you think?
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28 responses
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
31 Jan 12
Hi Suzie,
I don't think the student should be suspended at all. While most schools do have a policy against using cell phones in school, most do allow the kids to bring them. They just have to have them shut off. Many kids use them after school to call parents for rides or inform them of other plans etc. For all anyone knows, this kid turned his phone on just to take the picture. If I were the parents of this kid, I would fight against the suspension. Also the teacher should be disciplined. Falling asleep while he should be teaching a class is unacceptable.
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@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
1 Feb 12
I agree with you. Even if the student did violate the school policy I think suspension for him is too harsh in this case--if he hadn't snapped the picture, who knows how many times this would have happened with the teacher?
@Dominique25 (9464)
• United States
31 Jan 12
I don't think he should have been suspended. If anything a warning should have been giving to him. Since they have the policy of no cell phones. Being suspended though I think is taking it to far. Hopefully though the teacher was disciplined as well since he was sleeping. I hope the teacher doesn't sleep regularly during class. Perhaps teacher was having a long week who knows, we all know how that feels.
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
1 Feb 12
Hi Dominique,
I completely agree with you! We have all felt exhaustion, but the teacher should have gotten someone else to cover the class. And a warning should be the extent of the punishment that the student receives.
@Dominique25 (9464)
• United States
8 Apr 12
Yes the warning would have done the job. In these times it seems as if they are going over board with the consequences of certain rules like that. Hopefully though they will become more balanced.
@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
31 Jan 12
I find this irksome and it convinces me that schools should get rid of tenure. I had two teachers that were as bad as this teacher, but instead of falling asleep in class they'd give the class a reading assignment then leave and we wouldn't see them in class until the next day where they'd do the same thing over again. I know there are good teachers, but they seem to be few in number. When people say teachers are under paid, I'm afraid I have no sympathy for them. In any other industry, the individual would be fired if he/she preformed their duties like teachers.
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
There are great teachers, and not so great teachers. Unfortunately you seem to have had some pretty bad ones! But in this situation, I personally think the school district is the most at fault, for punishing the wrong party. The teacher should never have fallen asleep, of course, but it was the district who chose to suspend the student instead of the teacher.
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@GemmaR (8517)
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31 Jan 12
Most schools have rules which state that they're not allowed to use mobile phones in the classroom and, because of this, it seems right that the student should be suspended for a couple of days to set an example to the other students. However, I strongly believe that questions need to be asked of the teacher who was asleep in the classroom. He should not be asleep in class, because he is in a position of trust within all of those students, and if he was asleep then that just shows that he was not in control of the classroom at that time.
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@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
1 Feb 12
Hi Gemma,
Thanks for commenting. I have to say that, as a parent, I don't think a suspension of a couple of days is justified here. Because then I think the message to the kids will be--don't use your cell phone even if something is wrong. Clearly here, something was wrong, and he was right to take a picture of it. I think the teacher should be disciplined for falling asleep. Everyone has bad days, when we are not feeling well, etc., but if the teacher really needed a break, the teacher should have gotten someone else to run the classroom.
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@beamer88 (4259)
• Philippines
31 Jan 12
The school had grounds to suspend the student since he had indeed violated a school policy. It's ironic, though, that the one blowing the whistle is the one getting punished. I know I sound apathetic towards the incident. I'm not, actually. I just wasn't surprised since these types of things are so common in my country. What I'm surprised though is that it also happens in the US.
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@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
Actually, whistleblowers are supposed to be protected from retaliation. Hard to really say what happened here--was the student actually suspended because he violated the policy, or because he embarrassed the school?
I think things like this can happen in any country. . .!
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
31 Jan 12
There is nothing wrong with the students suspension for he clearly violated the school policy.
But, what did the school give to the teacher as punishment for sleeping.
If the student was given proper action-
the teacher must be given disciplinary action as well.
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
If it were a normal situation and the student was just using his cell phone on school grounds without permissions, then I would totally agree with you. But when he is responding to something that s going on that is wrong or worrisome, then I think that should have been taken into consideration and the punishment lessened accordingly.
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@nitin_hec (1096)
• India
1 Feb 12
I think school should give notice to both teacher and student. Teacher job is to teach student rather than sleeping. If school keep doing such thing why would they get any respect from student?
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
For sure I wouldn't respect a teacher who was sleeping in class instead of teaching.
@ayumitakashi (4462)
• United States
1 Feb 12
I think that's outrageous. Yes he did violate the policy but suspension in my opinion is too much and the teacher wasn't reprimanded? That's just so stupid and I don't agree with it. I took a class in college once and there were two teachers teaching the class, well one of the teachers would always go to sleep during the entire class and would just wake up almost as the class was finishing. It did get me annoyed because this school is very expensive and I'm paying for these teachers to teach me and here she is sleeping! Even if it was public school I think it's very unprofessional for a teacher to go to sleep during class. Good for the student for catching the teacher in the act but bad on the school for punishing him more for breaking one infraction while letting not doing anything about the teacher. Unless they did do something and we don't know about it?
@ayumitakashi (4462)
• United States
2 Feb 12
Yeah it's confusing. I was very angry but none of the students said anything because the other teacher was very active and she didn't really contribute to much anyways. I also loved that class for the simple fact that it led to my first time job which I still have to this day, it's part time but it's still a job.
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
You may be right--maybe they are punishing the teacher "behind the scenes." But why would they publicize the student's punishment, but not the teacher's? Must not have a great PR person, anyway!
I can't even imagine how annoyed you must have been to have professors who slept during your classes. I would have gone to the registrar and demanded a refund!
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
Not sure the teacher had any expectation of privacy in front of the classroom (?).
@marguicha (222844)
• Chile
31 Jan 12
I agree that the student should be suspended. He was violating the school policy. BUT the teacher should be fired with no farther notice. How can anyone behave (and not violate school rules) if the teachers are giving such bad examples? What does the PTA do in these cases?
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@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
1 Feb 12
Funny you should ask that, since I am involved with my own kids' PTAs. . .the PTA probably couldn't do much, except spread the word and morally support the parents and the child if they decide to fight the suspension. As a parent, I would certainly do so--I think a suspension is WAY too harsh here--perhaps a reprimand, But a suspension sends the wrong message--if there is a real problem at school, a student ought to be able to use a cell phone. This, to me, would constitute a real problem. Just my 2 cents!
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@majorroald (454)
• Netherlands
31 Jan 12
That a teacher sleep it the lesson is just not good and that than a student take his cell phone to make a picture is just normal. I think that teacher have to get a very big warning or just suspend him, because this is not normal. I must say i didn't have heard about this story but i also would tell it to people outside of mylot and ask them what they think about it.
But if i was on that scenario i also would take a picture to let see the bosses of the school the picture. Because lesson cost the government much money and also the people individually have to pay much for lessons.
Thanks for sharing!
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
1 Feb 12
I am sure the bosses have seen the picture--the story appears to be going viral on the internet. In fact, I am sure they saw it BEFORE they decided to suspend the student. (Maybe that's WHY they decided to suspend the student who knows?)
Have a nice day!
@sswallace21 (1824)
• United States
1 Feb 12
Yes, I heard this story on the news and read it in the paper. I do believe this was handle correctly as far as the student was concern. The no cellphone policy is a good one. We send our kids to school to learn not play on their cellphones.
However, I do think the teacher should have some repercussion. Again, we send our kids to school to learn. If the teacher can't do his/her job, they need to find a profession that allows them to sleep. This teacher was definitely in the wrong as well. No wonder our children are so far behind other countries. Sad, Sad, Sad.
Best Wishes!
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
The whole story is sad--something like this should never happen. Period. No teacher should be allowed to sleep in class. Then the rest never would have occurred. Oh well--makes for a good discussion!
@sswallace21 (1824)
• United States
2 Feb 12
You are right. If the teacher hadn't been sleeping in class, this whole thing would of never happen. I can remember when I was a student; if you slept in class, you got sent to the office. They need to check on the teachers like they check on the students.
@post2sawa (88)
• Philippines
1 Feb 12
I don't think the sanction for the student was fair, the teacher should be the one to be suspended for being caught in the act of sleeping during his/her working hrs. as for the student bringing in cell phone there should be a disciplinary action to be taken but not to suspend the child.
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
Agreed--I think the school as a whole has lost a lot of credibility over this.
@myzhian (584)
• Philippines
2 Feb 12
If you're going to see the angles the teacher must be more responsible of looking and guiding his/her student during the class to avoid certain any unusual act of the student. This couldn't have happened if the teacher is awake and performing his/her professional responsibility. And I guess there is no reason for him/her to complain for his/her own guilt and carelessness! The student is still minor and needs a lighter sanction for the act of violation and needs to be more understood! You as the teacher and as the second parent/guardian in school should protect your student from any kind of danger and abuse and not otherwise. Your classroom is your own obligation and responsibility! That is what you call as THE TEACHING PRINCIPLES that you use to pledge during your oath taking!
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
I think more than a little deduction is warranted--certainly he should be suspended for the same amount of time as the student, at the very least! I thought the whole thing was pretty ridiculous, too.
@maidangela7349 (1191)
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1 Feb 12
First we do not know why the teacher was asleep. It could be that he or she had some sort of medical condition. Also we do not know what action the school authorities took with that teacher. We do know that the student broke the rules and quite rightly was punished
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
That's true--it could have been a one-time thing that was unexpected. If the teacher did have a known medical condition, however, I would have hoped that the teacher would have had a contingency plan in place so that if illness did strike, a replacement teacher would be available.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
2 Sep 12
It is a sad state of affairs when the school is so worried about cell phones that they suspend a student for taking a picture with one! If they didn't take any kind of action against that teacher, I think I would be one pissed parent (especially if it were my kid). As far as the teacher goes, I don't know if suspension would be adequate punishment. Does that kind of thing happen often with that teacher and if so has anything been done about it yet? Thanks for sharing!
@succeednow (1633)
• Singapore
1 Feb 12
Hi Suzieqmom,
I think you all got it wrong. Actually the school is aware of students bringing cell phones with cameras to school in spite of being told specifically not to. But the school authority did not have proof. So they hatched up a plan and roped in one of the teachers to pretend to sleep in class hoping that the student will snap a photo of the 'sleeping' teacher and send it to the school authority. That's how he got into the trap and got suspended! Now all the students will know that the school meant business and that their rules must be strictly obeyed. Have a nice day.
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
I think this would constitute an emergency, don't you? Or it could easily have become one, if something had happened to one of the students while the teacher was sleeping.
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
31 Jan 12
I think it is terrible that the teacher didn't get in trouble. Why in the world is this teacher sleeping with kids in the classroom?? Who knows what could be happening!! What if the children got hurt? That teacher should have been fired!!! The student should have been told not to bring the phone to school again and that should have been it. The teacher is not acting responsibly at all and I would NOT want my children having a teacher like that!
And we wonder why some parents are worried about school these days... Hmmm...
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Feb 12
That's how I feel, too--under the circumstances, the most punishment the student should have received is a reprimand. I for one, am glad my kids don't have that teacher!!!