Another victory for the athiofascists
By urbandekay
@urbandekay (18278)
February 10, 2012 2:35pm CST
Two Christian guesthouse owners who refused to allow a gay couple to stay in a double room have lost their appeal against a ruling they acted unlawfully.
Peter and Hazelmary Bull, from Cornwall, took their case to the Court of Appeal.
The couple had refused to allow civil partners Steven Preddy and Martyn Hall, from Bristol, the room at Chymorvah House in 2008.
They were ordered in January 2011 to pay £3,600 in damages.
So much for freedom of religion
all the best urban
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@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
14 Feb 12
We have never held that an individual's religious beliefs excuse him from compliance with an otherwise valid law prohibiting conduct that the State is free to regulate. On the contrary, the record of more than a century of our free exercise jurisprudence contradicts that proposition. -- Antonin Scalia, opinion of the Court, Employment Division, Department of Human Resources of Oregon v. Smith
@urbandekay (18278)
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15 Feb 12
Did you not read the post? This is in UK - doh! Your American law is irrelevant here
UK is a free country and there are examples of religious belief outweighing legal requirements
Nor is this a discussion about law but about ethics
all the best urban
@urbandekay (18278)
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15 Feb 12
What is OP? Note that this not about public accommodation, it is about a private concern.
all the best urban
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
15 Feb 12
Plenty of Americans have been asserting things about what the law should say in this regard, so to that degree American law is relevant to the conversation.
Nothing in the OP discusses ethics, but focuses on the the law -- which clearly parallels the law in the US. Even so, I'll put forth a position that a law that forbids discrimination in the provision of public accommodations against those one considers immoral is an entirely ethical law; and that the courts were ethically as well as legally correct to rule as they did.
@urbandekay (18278)
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11 Feb 12
I think it is clear that there is a hidden (or no longer so hidden) agenda
all the best urban
@urbandekay (18278)
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11 Feb 12
Yes, I believe there are those, who from some psychological problem, wish to harm those that believe and the Christian religion in general. It is amusing to note that those same people will often defend the rights of other faiths!
Where such hatred comes from I can only imagine but I do know people that will admit a hatred of Christianity because they were force fed it as a child. Such is another fruit of the authoritarian Churches! 
all the best urban
all the best urban
@RebeccaScarlett (2532)
• Canada
11 Feb 12
They have freedom of religion--no one is infringing on their right to be Christian and practice Christian customs...themselves. Not a single person should have the right to force others to practice their religious customs. For example, could a Muslim-run guesthouse like this refuse to rent to females unless they are accompanied by related males and covered from head to toe with only their faces showing?
Does it say anywhere in the Bible that it is a sin to rent a room to a gay couple? I don't think it does, but please enlighten me if it is in there somewhere. I don't have the whole Bible memorized, after all :)
@RebeccaScarlett (2532)
• Canada
12 Feb 12
The fact that you immediately assume that it would be his business and not her business or their business shows me that you are sexist.
So, I guess there will be no fuss from you if I open up a business and refuse to deal with anyone unless they are white and have an IQ of 140 or higher? After all, it will be my business and I should be able to do what I like.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
12 Feb 12
Listen Rebecca i can be mean too.I can say the fact that you assume that i am a sexist shows me that you are far below 140.
Now instead of answering my question you created another scenario.I think it is discrimination to refuse to deal with someone because he is black or white or because he is a man ( or she is a woman ) or because they are christians or atheists or because they have physical problems or because they are not too smart.
But that is all.The state should protect the freedom of religion of each individual.That means if i am a muslim and i have a small business i should be allowed not to rent rooms to christians if they want to use them for praying.Or if i am a christian i should be allowed not to rent rooms to muslims for the same reason.I should be allowed not to rent rooms to unmarried couples or to gay couples if that is against what i believe.Instead of that you say Of course you have the freedom of religion but your beliefs are wrong so you must agree with my beliefs.
To answer your question about your business, i think you will never be able to run a business alone since i am a sexist.
Now instead of answering my question you created another scenario.I think it is discrimination to refuse to deal with someone because he is black or white or because he is a man ( or she is a woman ) or because they are christians or atheists or because they have physical problems or because they are not too smart.
But that is all.The state should protect the freedom of religion of each individual.That means if i am a muslim and i have a small business i should be allowed not to rent rooms to christians if they want to use them for praying.Or if i am a christian i should be allowed not to rent rooms to muslims for the same reason.I should be allowed not to rent rooms to unmarried couples or to gay couples if that is against what i believe.Instead of that you say Of course you have the freedom of religion but your beliefs are wrong so you must agree with my beliefs.
To answer your question about your business, i think you will never be able to run a business alone since i am a sexist.