pilipinos always speaking english
@SIMPLYD (90721)
Philippines
February 18, 2012 4:26am CST
I couldn’t help but be annoyed, that while a mayor in Negros Oriental was being interviewed in Tagalog by Jessica Soho, about the earthquake that damaged most of the town’s houses and infrastructures , he was answering in English. And I can say that it’s as if he finds difficulty in speaking it fluently , yet would still answer back in English , when all the while , Jessica Soho was Speaking Tagalog!
In my opinion , it is plain hypocrisy for a Filipino to be answering in English when you are being interviewed by a fellow Filipino in Tagalog while here in the Philippines. You are a Filipino, so answer in Tagalog when you know how to speak it!
And to think that foreigners when they are here would really be speaking Tagalog!
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24 responses
@leon3000502000 (1564)
• Philippines
18 Feb 12
if that mayor is from dumaguete then maybe he responded in english because maybe he can't speak tagalog since the language in dumaguete is bisaya. in dumaguete most people living here can understand tagalog but not most of them can speak tagalog fluently and accurately. and many can't understand tagalog.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
Aren't we Filipinos supposed to know our national language, Pilipino or the Tagalog dialect? He did answer in Pilipino, but most of the time he answered in English.
So it means he really do know how to speak and understand it. But whatever his reason is, i just hope that he should to learn how speak in Pilipino.
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@pepai123456 (879)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
ummmm SIMPLYD I think you made some wrong typos
Pilipino/Pilipinos are the people living in the Philippines
Filipino is the official language of the Philippines particularly in Southern Luzon and Manila sadly its not the Lingua Franca of the Bisaya/Visayan I think they prefer to talk in waray-waray and English.
Tagalogs are the native speakers of the Filipino Language.
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@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
If you will ask me, I'd rather ask senator MDS and all of our legislators to change our national language from Filipino based in Tagalog to English. Why? Please read all the responses you have gotten.
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@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
I can see that, my friend. It seems that everybody seem to like speaking in English .
Well, i can understand that because English seems to be our way of getting our messages sent all throughout the world, since it's the International language.
But i just hope the Filipinos gets to speak their national language too on occasions or situations that calls for it.
@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
21 Feb 12
response to your 1st para
i agree.
response to your 2nd para
yes, we're civilized
response to your 3rd para
i do not want to contradict my answer to your 2nd para
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@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
22 Feb 12
Do not get angry just because he does not speak Tagalog. We really cannot judge him. It depends on the location and another is everything has its own reason. Maybe he does not know how to speak Tagalog or he just want to practice English or he is in tv because most politicians speak English too if they are in mass media. That is what we call 'reality bytes' My cousin always speaks English because it is difficult for her to talk tagalog with people she encounter outside from home and she knew that we also cannot understand Cebuano so, she speaks English. There is nothing we can do about it. We are been colonized by American. Well American is better than Spaniards because Spaniards is the one who abuses Filipino and that is why Jose Rizal saves us from the abusive Spaniards. We really cannot force them to speak Tagalog if they do not know how to speak Tagalog. I think, speaking English is a easy way for them rather to speak Tagalog because I still remember what my cousin told me. Tagalog subject is a lot difficult for her to study than English subject. Ha ha. We really cannot blame them. Tagalog subject is like a math subject for them.
By the way, have you watched tv in cable channel? I forgot the number channel in cable but last night, I watched those politicians that speak English to each other. It is about the empeachment trial, something like that. They too, speak English but they do not speak Tagalog as well. Although we remain Filipino culture, we have been mixed by American culture too. We really cannot ignore it.
I still remember this one. I have also watched a video about one politicians here in the Philippines that he got furious with a politicians from other countries. The reason is they talk in Tagalog. He's reading something on a paper written in a pure Tagalog because they cannot speak Tagalog and the politicians from the Philippines told him to speak English. Ha ha.
@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
22 Feb 12
I learn from a Philippine sociology subject that we are called 'brown american'.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
Oh well, maybe the Visayans really find speaking Pilipino a lot difficult that English.
Here in our place, Bicol region , most of the common people really knows how to speak the national language yet, some find it difficult to speak English. Except of course for the educated ones.
But i am proud that we all do really know how to speak our national language, Pilipino.
But as to the politicians, well they are more adept in speaking English than Pilipino because at school, English was the medium of teaching.
So i guess, that's another reason why the mayor keeps answering in English to Jessica Soho's Tagalog.
@chiwasaki (4694)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
I am sorry but I find that fine with me. Not all Filipinos understand Tagalog but I am sure, most of us understand the English Language. It is already our second language, and I do not see anything wrong with that. Probably the mayor has his speech prepared in English already.
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@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
It was actually an interview done by Jessica Soho. And Jessica Soho always conduct that show in Tagalog. She too seemed irritated that the mayor keep speaking English, when he can also speak Tagalog, as he is doing once in a while.
But maybe the mayor wants foreigners to understand the situation, so they could in turn send their donations .
I would understand if he is giving a speech in a gathering of people from different countries.
@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
18 Feb 12
Visayans have difficulty expressing themselves in Tagalog. I have friends in Cebu and they prefer to talk in English because they are not very fluent in the national language. You should be glad that we Filipinos are fluent in the English language since that is one of the reasons for the growth in tourism. Similarly, our ability to write well in English has enabled us to participate in these sites where English is the medium.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
What i am just wondering though, is why are Visayans fluent in English, yet in our national language, they are not?
Isn't that a bit sad ?
@pepai123456 (879)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
spot on Yahnee it is soooo true that majority of the Filipinos living in the Visayas, Mindanao speaks in vernacular and not the "Tagalog" language.
@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
One reason for this is the medium of education. We don't actually use Pilipino but English except for the subject Pilipino. We have no Pilipino translations for Science and Mathematical words. People speak in the vernacular and not the national language. Another thing I have noticed are the foreign religious sects in the towns and barrios all spreading the word of God in the English language. Most of them are concentrated in the Visayas and Mindanao area rather than the city. Due to the number of dialects in our country, we are bound by one common language and that is English which often becomes the primary language instead of being second.
@aejey322 (1004)
• Philippines
28 Sep 12
it happens that i saw Pacman on the local news just this morning... the reporter asked him in Bisaya, but he is answering in Tagalog... it's like i want to poke him on tv and say, Hey Pacman, have you forgotten that you are from Gensan? is being a celebrity makes you forget about your native tounge?
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@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
That's right aejey. I also noticed that.
Perhaps Pacman addressed it in Tagalog, because he knows he is on TV and would like to be understood by everybody.
Though, i think he should have answered in Bisaya, because it's his native tongue and as a respect to the reporter. Then, the reported can just explain what they have just talked about.
@anne25penn (3305)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
I would say that I would get irritated if a Filipino living in Manila keeps on answering back in English even if you're conversing in our native tongue. I don't know the mayor of Negros, but one reason that I see and might be the reason why he is answering back in English is because as you know Negros has their own Visayan dialect. If you watch the residents affected by the earthquake, when asked in tagalog by the news reporters they answer back in Visayan and those who try to speak tagalog have some words mixed up that the news reporter would translate for them.
Hypocrisy for me is that call center dude trying to speak with an American twang while buying donuts at a 24/7 convenience store. Hypocrisy are those sipping coffee at Starbucks trying to look cool, smoking and speaking English as if they're elite. There was one time that this girl (I don't know if she works in the call center industry or just plain trying hard) was ahead of me in the line at one fastfood joint. My blood curdled because she was trying to sound foreign, but I wanted to bash her head in because I know she isn't because of her grammar. Not because you can sound American means you can pass for one. I have worked in the call center industry for nine years and you can never catch me speaking English to the balut vendor or Manong Magtataho like so many people I see.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
I cannot help but laugh at both of your narrative of some of the hypocritical ways of some people. And now speakingd of that, i say, i totally agree.
Some people would really make a show of them speaking English even when they are speaking to very ordinary people like the driver, or the sales lady at the mall. They seem to ssay the message, "look, i am an elite person, because i speak English"
And to that mayor, maybe you are right that because they are Visayans, they cannot sospeak fluent Pilipino, so he speaks in English.
But he answered twice in full length Pilipino. Oh, maybe he is trying to entice foreign donors to send more donations .
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
Not because you can sound American means you can pass for one.
Lol! True! I have heard people trying so hard to speak English when they can actually speak Tagalog. I am talking about the people in Luzon (metro manila and neighboring towns)...
Starbucks! Well I used to go there with a friend. Not to look cool, a friend just invited me there. But there's this one girl who seems to occupy the seat and two round small tables, I put it on my side. I thought she's with a dozen friends. Later her boyfriend came with one frappe, they shared it. She was looking at me from head to toe when I sat next to their table. I was wearing very simple shirt and jeans. She was wearing sleeveless, sexy blouse and mini shorts. Even my friend who came later after getting the orders got the look from her from head to toe. My friend asked me why is she looking at us like that? And then some who used to go there trying to really look rich and cool.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
9 Mar 12
i agree to some of those who responded here. even if you learn a certain dialect from school or a community, you will find it more comfortable to answer questions or give your reactions from the heart when you are speaking in your mother tongue.
in my own experience, i also prefer to speak in tagalog, even when i am already leaving here for almost 20 years. i learned how to speak bisaya, particularly cebuano because people here used to tell us, people from outside bisayas to learn and speak their language as if they (the bisayan people) come to manila, they talk in tagalog.
i speak their language and communicate even with my boss, in cebuano dialect. but time comes i have to speak in my mother tongue because i can express my true feelings or i can tell the words that come from my heart.
people used to misinterpret me too when i speak in cebuano. sometimes, i talk and i thought it's the right translation.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
9 Mar 12
Now i rally know that Bisayans do speak their dialects even when the person they are talking with is speaking Tagalog.
But at least Bisayan is easy to understand. And what's nice about the Bisayans is that they really can speak English.
@ckyera (17331)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
Hi SimplyD!
I remember the first time that I visited CDO, where people are using Visayan Dialect, I feel so bad that they are not talking to me in Tagalog which is my mother tongue, it even irritates me when some of them are talking in their dialect and laughing while I am in front of them, i don't know what they are talking about and it does makes me think of them as rude people...hehe
Anyway, I asked my husband about such thing and he told me that when they are in their place, they are just not really feel comfortable talking in Tagalog. I don't really know why, No that i am living here in Cebu, I still have the same observation, you know, when there's one Cebuano who speaks in Tagalog, sometimes other people are teasing him, sometimes you will hear some people saying that only because you went to manila, you now forget how to speak Cebuano? something like that. But they don't talk that way when they hear them talking in English...haha I wonder why...lol!
I believe that all of us here in the Philippines should know how to speak in our national language which is Filipino, but there's nothing wrong in speaking in English and using our regional dialects as well. That's just my opinion.
@ckyera (17331)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
Well that's just my observation...I hope Cebuanos, Visayans won't take that against me!
But you know, there are also some whom I feel they are happy talking to a Tagalog like me, and there are some who are trying their best to speak in my dialect even if they are really having a hard time, it seems to me that they are kinda shy to speak in Tagalog...I met most of them in the market. I mean those who are trying to speak in Tagalog. I think they are just using Filipino in school only in their Filipino subject. And I saw in some schools here having this "This is an English speaking zone"
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
Yes, that's what i am trying to point out, you are a Filipino so you should know how to speak our national language. If you know how to speak English which is a foreign language (though our second language) then how come you don't know how to speak our national language.
So now i can say that when you are a Visayan and speak in Tagalog, they seem to think that you are trying to impress them that you are from Manila , while if you speak in English it is just but ordinary.
@tipay26 (867)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
I don't think it's bad though from my own opinion some areas in the Philippines find it hard to speak in Tagalog so as a result they turn to English as well.And being interviewed live it's just a gesture to be more professional and being courteous.Don't get annoyed if you hear a certain individual who is trying his/her best to speak in English we have to remember that all of us, before we learned to speak English we were on their same shoe right and it's not that bad though.We should be proud that some of the Filipinos have the guts to speak English and the best learners are those who are "trying hards " as far as I could remember my trainer would say...:)
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
I am sorry if i seeem to have generalized Filipinos who are always speaking in English as hypocrites, though they are Filipinos and are living here in the Philippines.
That's because some affluent families , whether just at home would require their children to speak English and thus their nannies too. I find it funny that they should be doing that when in fact, the people in their surroundings are all Filipinos.
But i can understand that also because maybe they are just training their children to be adept in English, so they won't find it hard to speak it, specially when they are already looking for a job, since interviews in big companies are done in English.
As others have justified , maybe the mayor is a Visayan and Visayans find it hard to speak our national language, since they grew up in school speaking English.
Sad but how come they can speak English, but not our national language.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
21 Feb 12
Yes, i also feel that way with Jessica Soho. She seemed to be so proud that she is a FIlipino by speaking in Pilipino in her show.
And maybe in addition, she would like every Filipino watching her show truly understands and can relate to what she is discussing.
@pepai123456 (879)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
I'm not sure but i have heard some of the Visayans despise or doesn't wanna talk in Tagalog/broken Tagalog .... I just heard this anyway.
I understand some of us can be bitter and cynical sometimes and drop words that sometimes would damage a lot(no knowing the consequence) ...Like one of the fellow myloter and his response in your discussion he said "to make them feel better about themselves" well it doesn't mean that a person who speaks in a certain dialect (English for example) is a trying hard copy cat (hehehe)I think its a freedom for them to choose and communicate in their chosen dialect.
I'm proud of Jessica Soho why? Because I noticed that almost all of here documentaries and reports she converse in Tagalog and she is one of the famous news anchors (correct me if im wrong).
@damned_dle (3942)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
I personally think that it is not fair for "Visayans" to be forced to learn to speak "Filipino/Tagalog" because if they do, then they would have to master 3 languages.. Bisayan, Filipino and English..
@damned_dle (3942)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
Well, Filipinos from Metro Manila and close places whose native language is Tagalog can not speak Visayan or any other local dialect aside from Filipino/Tagalog..
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
24 Feb 12
The Visayan dialect has some words that are similar to our Bicol dialect. Sometimes, when i hear a Visayan speaking it, i can understand.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
Well, the Visayans ,aside from their native dialect, Bisayan they have the option to learn English or Pilipino.
But it seems that they are more adept in speaking English than the national language Pilipino. Sad, because they seem not to know know hoow to speak their national language.
@toniganzon (72517)
• Philippines
6 Mar 12
I think the reason why he does that is because he couldn't speak Tagalog well. People from Negros Oriental speak Ilonggo, it's very difficult to speak Tagalog for us. It's like tongue twister. English, on the other hand, just slides normally. So i think that's why he was answering in English.
But for those fluent in Tagalog, i must agree with you that when one is addressed in TAgalog, one must answer it in Tagalog too.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
6 Mar 12
Yes, as explained by others that is surely the case since he is a Visayan.
But i do agree with you Toni that for those fluent in Tagalog, when they are addressed in Tagalog then they should also speak in Tagalog. But if not, maybe they should tell the one they are speaking with that they will answer in English , because they are not that well versed in Tagalog.
That way, the one your speaking with will follow also.
@whengcat (1457)
• Philippines
18 Feb 12
I agree with those who respond that maybe the mayor is having difficulty in speaking tagalog because of his different dialect. I also knew some folks from visayas who do that. Some don't want to get laugh at when speaking "bisaya" so they express themselves in english
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
Hmm, it seems that the Visayans find it easier to learn English than Tagalog or our Pilipino language. Don't they have the subject Pilipino when they were in their intermediate grades?
@pepai123456 (879)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
Not being rude but as what i have been observing this years and the past years pupils and students doesn't really take Filipino subject seriously... they find it hard to understand the Pangalan, pang-halip, pandiwa, pang-uri, pang-abay and etc rather than Noun,pronoun,verb,adjective,Adverb (respectively).
And no offensive some Tagalog speakers doesn't really communicate in the pure Tagalog form they incorporate some English to it and called Broken Tagalog...
@miadsoriano (884)
• Philippines
21 Feb 12
I saw that very same interview by Jessica Soho. We also couldn't understand (at first) why the gentleman from Negros wouldn't answer Ms. Soho in the vernacular. We thought him rude in the beginning. But then, I thought, that maybe the man wasn't comfortable with his tagalog/ pilipino and felt it was easier for him to just answer in English. But still, he should've excused himself from the very start, if that were the case. Oh well!
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
Oh you did saw that show. It seems that Jessica too, is a bit annoyed that he keeps answering in English when he can also speak in Pilipino just like her.
Maybe he really wants foreigners to understand their sad plight and give their donations.
@miadsoriano (884)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
You are right in both counts. First, about Jessica getting a bit flustered by her interviewee. She is just too professional about it to even think of embarrassing the guy on TV (by either speaking in fluent english, or by asking him directly to speak in tagalog/ filipino). On your second point...yeah...I guess he wanted foreign viewers to understand what he is saying. In that case, he is one smart dude!
@blungel0830 (841)
• Philippines
21 Feb 12
I read all the responses and we do all have varying opinions. But the good thing about myLot is that is allows everyone to his own opinion. I think the bottom line in speaking is not so much the language one chooses but the ability to be able to speak ones mind and communicate ones thoughts. I think it is much better for all if we speak in a manner that is understandable, after all isn't communication the goal of every language? If one is unable to communicate his thoughts, no matter what the chosen language, I think we would all end up as the peoples in the tower of Babel. Cheers everyone!
@cowboyofhell (3063)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
Well, humorously you are faced with an award winning news reporter so why the resistance speaking english. As they always say, we are the "global Filipino" . It sounds crazy but the mayor could have worried more if he spoke broken tagalog and it would be a shame for his fellow Visayans that viewers in Manila assume them as funny speakers of tagalog. I wouldn't do that, seriously.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
Well now, i guess i just have to think of that way, why the mayor is speaking in English, despite Jessica Soho's consistent speaking in Pilipino.
@deodavid (4150)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
Hi there simplyd,
Well I guess people are just like that, they try to work in a way that will make them feel better than themselves, it is understandable why he is doing that since usually this kinds of shows are broadcasted to the world, but he should have spoken in our local language he could have answered Jessica's question much better and not made a fool out of himself, I like this topic it is very patriotic.
I hope we can be like Korea japan and china they mind being listened to or watched by the world but they use there own language so that there people will understand them and be more attentive to local issues compared to if government officials speak in English most of the time people loose interest in what they are tackling about.
So let's go local and speak our local tongues in local assembly's right in TV locally shown or internationally. right???
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
I agree with you, my friend.
Let's be patriotic and patronize our own language, because anyway the show is done in Tagalog and being aired on TV for the Filipinos to watch , so why can't we just speak in our national language too.
What i love with Jessica is, she really conduct the show in Tagalog.
@Mashnn (4501)
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20 Feb 12
I have observed this trend in Philippines. I have friends from Visayas who have a very good command in English and fluent while I find most of Filipinos from Manila or other provinces shy away from speaking English and prefer Tagalog. I think this is the same case with the mayor and he is much more comfortable when speaking English.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
Well, i think so too now, because almost everybody is saying so.
@pepai123456 (879)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
Lol chill mga repapips and sisters!
Lets not go all cynical and agitated with this mayor from Negros Oriental. I think the main reason why he conversed in English with Jessica Soho is that he is a Bisaya/Visayan and as far as i observe Bisaya or Bisdaks have difficulties in communicating through Tagalog(Im not saying they are good in English), when i was young i heard my friends mother talking Tagalog with a stranger(she was a pure bisaya) and she sounds funny... I mean pa as if...
It should have been better if he just answered in bisaya and the team of Jessica Soho would add English subtitles so that it can be understood.But i think its his own choice and we don't want Jessica Soho saying "Pwede bang mag bisaya ka nalang para mas maganda may subtitles".
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
Well, it seems that it's that way indeed , because he is a Visayan. But he did speak in Pilipino and it's not as Visayan as it sounds.
Another maybe is because he wants foreigner viewers to hear what he has to say about the devastation , thus make them send more donations.
@luisaR (452)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
like some answers here, it is difficult for them to speak tagalog dialect..we must understand that. They can understand it, yes, but speaking it is not easy. Sometimes it our mentality that we think Tagalog is the basic dialect that one must speak...that it is the superior dialect in our country.What if the philippine capital is cebu, would you think Tagalog will be the dialect to speak generally? Guess we will have a hard time responding to them and even undestanding the interviewers, right?
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
I am sorry, but i think Pilipino , not Tagalog is the national language. And it being the national language, it's being taught in elementary, so basically every Filipino living here should know how to speak it.
The mayor knows how to speak it, because he would sometimes answer in it. But most of the time he speaks English.
Sad, that they prefer speaking English than our national language.