Is it religion or ?
By shibham
@shibham (16977)
India
February 18, 2012 11:44pm CST
Hi everyone...
Please give a look on the picture added. Do you wish to see this baby buffalo besmeared with blood? if you have a kind heart then i do believe 'never' and sure mylotters are so kind.
Yesterday, on the house of my maternal uncle, Manasha Puja (one type of worship) was celebrated where this buffalo was brought to slay on the name of god. It was me who protested and left this buffalo without a drop of blood.
The priest told that such worship can be completed without sacrificing blood then why people are greedy to see an innocent living being writhing on blood? I never accept it as a part of religion? Do you?
N.B. :- Goat, duck and pigeons were also brought to slay but i did not allow to do that and now all are free.
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16 responses
@5mahi05 (666)
• India
19 Feb 12
Even I do not agree on this part of the religion be it any for that matter. Have humans grown so mean and selfish that they will kill animals to make their life better?! I have never read anywhere that god asks for all these type of non sense, and that's basically because, for god, all lives are the same, be it an human or an animal.
I am also totally against such practices and rituals.
I am glad that you made an effort to stop what was happening and the best thing, you were successful. Great work done. CheerS!
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@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 12
Hi mahi...
It is said that all living beings are sons/daughters of god. So why a dad/mom will like to eat the blood of their own creation. It is we nonsense human who try to satisfy god without knowing the deepness of faith and being blind we rush to sacrifice lives for own won sake. disgusting.
Thanks for your comment,
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
19 Feb 12
Hiya shibs,
Did they actually sacrifice him in the end? Or was it just a Ritual kind of thing?
I hope that he was not killed just for that such a dear little Animal.
I think that before when we were driven by primal fear of "the Gods" or whatever that something terrible would happen if we did not sacrifice something then it was more or less a thing that most People did.
But now I cannot understand that we have come to this Day and Age and that People will still do these things.
Well I say I can´t understand it but if you love God then you will not want to kill anything not on purpose at least.
I am not going back to the Photo again as I don´t want to break my Heart looking at it.
It is understood for me why they did all this before but at the same time I don´t condone it either.
At the same time I cannot say that I have never been in a situation like that as our past Memories are buried deep and for our own protection there is a sort of Gatekeeper there that will not let us remember what happened before.
Let me put it this way in another time I may have hunted Animals to be able to live to eat but now I would not do this unless really pushed I suppose.
I sound hypocritical here although I am against it there are People still hunting to be able to live and I do not pretend to know the Law that goes beyond this Earth I know that it is there but I don´t pretend to know about how it works either.
You did right in going from there I would not have been able to eat that Day after that is how it affects me.
Not wanting to judge anyone here as their Beliefs are theirs and I respect them but me personally I would not and could not do this I would leave Baby where he is to grow up to where he will grow and thats it.xxx
@shibham (16977)
• India
20 Feb 12
Yes, he is alive still my concern. If you give a look on the picture added, then you will see a red spot on his forehead. it is called "tilak".
My heart goes with those horses but what we can do? The world is becoming more crazy then earlier. Where old aged home built (as they are deprived from the family members like useless fellows) they what we can expect with a useless horse. Right?
But it is worst and truly barbaric.
have a nice time.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 12
Hi angel... How are you?
Yes, they were ready but i protested with my father. Actually i wished to send that buffalo to zoo and i contacted but they said that domestic animals are not to send to zoo, So next time i thought to leave him on road with red tie on neck and spot on his forehead. Here no one try to kill or cage such animals even goats roam around being red.
Nope angel, we should raise our voices for all those odd acts on the name of religion. We should protest against their believes who thinks that animal worshiping is good for a nation. We should enlighten them that they are wrong because all living beings are a part of god (if god exists). If god was somewhere he had to raise his voice but he is also silent.
Have a nice time.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
19 Feb 12
Hiya shibs,
He is alive then? Oh good thank goodness for that. See what you mean about the Red Spot on him to keep him from harm?
It is time for all that to stop but it takes a lot of time to persuade some to stop those kind of things.
Don´t know if they will ever want to give up the cruelty to the Bulls well and to other Animals as well but the Bull comes in for a lot of cruelty.
Horses are also being left by side of Roads and left to fend for themselves.
Why on earth do they buy a Horse if they know they cannot afford to keep it.
They could take them to a Horse Sanctuary where they are left to roam wild again and feed themselves like before and are under no threat of being killed.
A lot of them were Racehorses with bad legs and hooves so they cannot Race again.
Surely part of the Prize Money could be put towards protection for these Animals after all they did help them to win their earnings did´nt they?
Near to Alsasua Navarra a lot of Horses are living wild and they live very well actually they are into the Mountains and there is plenty for them to eat too.xxx
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@veejay19 (3589)
• India
19 Feb 12
Very good shibham, you have done the right thing. Animal sacrifice was prevalent in hindu form of worship thousands of years ago even at the time of Ram and Krishna.However in the modern times people have realized that it is not necessary to do so and it has been replaced symbolically.However there are a few places where it is still carried out but not frequently.with many species of animals fast nearing extinction it is necessary to preserve as many as we can.by doing so you have saved some animals from being killed and i commend you for it.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 12
Thanks veejay.
It is true that now a days animal sacrifices are less than earlier because of animal activists and some well known writers. Perhaps you know the famous Assamese writer 'jyanapeeth' winner Mamoni Roysom Goswami who fought for animal's sacrifices. Maneka gandhi is still doing the same. So it is lessened but still running in some areas and basically here in my locality.
have a nice time.
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@5mahi05 (666)
• India
19 Feb 12
Shibham, in ashwamedha Yaga, they never kill the horse. They just dedicate a horse for the yaga and let the horse wander all over their kingdom and some of the kings or the prince's will go with the horse. Infact, great care was taken to protect the horse. If you know ramayana, you should also be knowing that, lava and kusha had held the horse which was dedicated for the ashwanedha yaga, to call Rama for a fight! That is when Bharatha promised the two kids telling that he will return the horse once the yaga is over. But the kids did not agree and thus Lord Shri Ram had to come to fight with his own kids.
There is no scriptures in the hindu mythology, asking for any sacrifices of animals. It is all modern man made and being a Brahmin, it is sad that you are telling all these. You should have the knowledge of the vedas for sure. Inspite of that you are a non believer. This is a shame for your identity! I am sorry, but that is the fact! Learn your veda shastras, you have everything that you need for life and you will soon realize that there is nothing bad or wrong at all that you can see in the Hindu religion. When I say this, I am mentioning the practices mentioned in the vedas, and not by the modern gurujis all over the place.
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@lampar (7584)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Actually non -God religion, cult or satanic worship will demand blood be shed on living being either animal, or human as type of offering. The ritual has nothing to do with God teaching, except it is commonly use to mislead the public. But then again, the performer can pretty much said whatever he want to justify a twisted belief for such cruel action.
@shibham (16977)
• India
20 Feb 12
Hi lamper..
As i have read the "sakti" section of Hinduism has been demanding from years that warm blood of animals are mandatory. But dont know why? And i have no believe that it is god's demand and the persons associated with such activity always greedy of meat, as far i can think.
have a nice time.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
shiby,
As part of ritual whether religious or not- this is happening.
What do you think about canned corned beef?
Don't they kill the animal before stuffing the meat inside those tin?
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
I am not carnivorous- not a total vegetarian as well.
Don't worry, I can live with grass alone if it is needed.
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@lekhya (819)
• India
19 Feb 12
Shibham,
Its great that u saved several animal's lives.Its harsh killing animals in the name of god and religion.I am forever against such awful traditions.I have protested some times,but was never successful.They consider me immature in dealing such issues.The people are blinded folded in the name of religion.They is no one to punish them or blame them for doing such stupid,idiotic and shameless acts.I think such events should also be dealt legally,and the sinners be punished severely so that they won't dare to do them again in future fearing their lives.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 12
Hi lekhya...
Yes, they are blind folded and worst supporters of Hinduism. I dont agree with that sacrificed system of Hinduism because we were taught that all living beings are a part of God, if so, why a god will wish to see the blood of his part. Never.
You are right. As a person is executed for killing a person, That's way they should be for killing an animal too.
Have a nice time.
@shibham (16977)
• India
20 Feb 12
Hi lekhya..
yeah, you have not mentioned about Hinduism. I wrote it being angry with the irrelevant stuffs by dupremo. You had to bother it. Really sorry.
Well, neither i am against Hinduism nor any other. All religions has it's dark sides. But if we have to clean a nation, then we should start the tour from our own home, then the ward, then town, then circle, then district and so so. As i am an Hindu, i had to clean and study my religion first and then i have the right to point out to other religion. This was my motive. Perhaps you have understood. Thanks.
@lekhya (819)
• India
19 Feb 12
Shibam,
What's wrong with you?I haven't mentioned about any particular religion.Y do you point out at Hinduism.its our own religion.We need to follow,respect and publicize our religion,but not unpopularise it.Many religions are involved in animal slaughtering.It is only the blind folded stupid,uncultured,brutal people,who are performing such offenses not the actual hindhus.The true ones are always against such acts.Please keep this in mind.Try to fight against all religions,but not against a particular religion.
And to that response of yours,the so called sacrificial system doesn't exist in Hinduism.The origin of the sacrificial system is to be related with the thanthrics/black magicians whose intention is to gain immense power.These people themselves are against Hindhus.Then from where does hindhuism come in this aspect of slaughtering & sacrificing animals.
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
20 Feb 12
Animal sacrifice is a feature of many religions today including Islam. Even when animal sacrifice is not practised today it features in all almost all religions histories.
What is the difference between Eid ul-Adha in Islam and the practices of Manasha Puja?
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
19 Feb 12
Hi shibham, I agree with you completely, it is never necessary to shed innocent blood of any kind. I could never believe in a God who would make such a demand. All such beliefs are man made and completely out of character with the idea a supreme being. Blessings.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 12
Hi pose..
Exactly, we human are sacrificing those animals on the name of god so that we can eat their meat after worship. It is an odd culture on the name of religion who shows our greediness. It is better to share the pieces of that killed animal and taste than buying from a butcher? Money shaving policy.
have a nice time.
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@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
I believe such rituals and customs have been deeply rooted in every culture..or religion that sometimes people who follow it, people who believe in it just follows it even though it might be wrong. Some also are innocent of the fact that there are so many things wrong about such sacrifices. Good for you and you stood up for that buffalo..
There are also ways in my own religion / culture that i also do not follow but we cannot help but there are really people who still do it even though it is outright wrong.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
20 Feb 12
Yes, you are right. Such rituals are not to signify any morality rather it is hitting our society to an extreme point of cruelty. Religion never seeks any blood for the sake of nation but we are unable to make them understood as all of them are orthodox and rigid. Very hard to change such scenario.
have a nice time.
@yanzalong (18988)
• Indonesia
19 Feb 12
I am the one who doesn't like to see animals treated that way. I also feel that animals have their own right to live.
@Darren84 (57)
•
19 Feb 12
The practice of slaughtering animals for religious or spiritual purposes is primitive and uncivilized and the same goes for hunting, which is even worse because it is done purely for fun and entertainment. It should be said that if you are against animal slaughtering for religious reasons then you should also be against the idea of eating meat.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 12
Hi Darren...
You are right both are uncivilized and primitive. For animal sake, both should be banned and i wish promptly. I am an animal activist and purely vegetarian and a member of PETA too, so i always raise my voice for the sake of animal and others.
Have a nice time.
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@befrindwithme26 (5805)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
For me is i am not agree with,It's another false belief that is not base on what God says..
some false religion practice that to sacrifice and pay for their sins,but that is wrong..!
God ,Jesus Christ already paid the sins and savior of us,He is making the only way through Him so we can be right with and throught our faith and not through offering animals or any sacrifices!
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@shibham (16977)
• India
20 Feb 12
Exactly, i doubt where it was written, i think either it is a perverted version of epic or later made by some greedy persons. Every religion should respect every living beings and i do believe no religion has taught us to flow blood for the name of god.
Have a nice time.
@stk40m (1119)
• Koeln, Germany
10 Mar 12
there's so much mischief, massacres, slaughter and other bloody things done all in the name of religion that one might wonder if religion is a good thing at all. The Bible (I'm a Christian on paper), especially the Old Testament, is full of blood if you read it ... well, I've become an atheist after all. Anyway, we don't need religion or a God to know what's good and bad. To believe in afterlife or spirits does not require religion. I'm sure we would get by pretty well with other people if there was no religions in the world. They've brought more bad than good to mankind imo.
I think what you've done was good. It would even be better if those people would understand for themselves that doing such things is not good and weakens (sometimes damages very hard) our spiritual development. They are responsible for what they are doing. If they choose to kill an animal and you can't keep them from doing it it's their mistake and not yours