science vs religion prove it god exist or not?
By Jhovarie
@Jhovarie (1168)
Philippines
15 responses
@nurzaira (128)
• Indonesia
20 Feb 12
Of course i believe that God exist. At everything of course there are the beginning and God is the beginning of all things in life.
All sciences comes from God of course.. And God teaches human about all things and sciences, with variety ways of God and through any media, including through scripture (Al-Qur'an) and religious teachings, and through all things in this life. Through the science, humans can discover the existence of God. And everything in this life also proves that God exists.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
19 Feb 12
My opinion is until people can prove it then it doesn't exist. I wont follow a book because anyone could have written it. I am more towards science than some creator no one has seen, talked to, communicated with, etc. and all they have is a book they claim was written by his followers. Its kind of like that guy who claimed he was Jesus and so many people followed him. I always go with facts not possible facts. That is just my opinion. No offense to anyone.
@Jhovarie (1168)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
what will comes in your mind if you seen a website? do you think there is no developer who created it? common sense there is a developer who created it.
what comes in your mind if you read my post? do you think there is no one who post it? common sense if you seen a post here in mylot it means poster of the post exists.
ok here we go..
what will comes in you mind if you seen mountain, ocean, leaving things and non leaving things on earth? what will comes in your mind if you seen stars, moon etc from the sky do you think no one who created it?
for me God created it all even i dont seen god.
@BLTLife (337)
• United States
19 Feb 12
You can't say everything was created by something. For all we know the universe has always existed and is only going through loops of it's own existence. Which also applies to the matter and all that inside of it.
You also remind me of something,
"Here we go! If God controls the land and disease, keeps a watchful eye on me, if he's really so damn mighty, my problem is I can't see, well who would want to be, who would want to be such a control freak?"
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
19 Feb 12
I have to agree with BLTLife in the sense of for all we know the universe has always existed. I do prefer facts but neither science nor religion can prove God exists. The theory of 'loops of it's own existence' is also very interesting to me. I always love learning new things though maybe that is where mankind went wrong... if you keep pushing for knowledge there are too many things that could make sense.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
20 Feb 12
Science demands facts. Religion relies on faith. The conflict between the two results when scientific fact destroys the base of religious myth.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
20 Feb 12
YouTube is a poor place to look for facts.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
19 Feb 12
Hi Jhovarie, I often think that the world would be a better place if there was no religion at all. Religion cannot prove that there is a God, and overall has probably done more harm in the world, than it has good. This does not mean that we should not seek for a meaning to life or believe that the short period we spend here is all there is to life. Religion is man made and the best way to seek for the meaning of life is to meditate or go within, into the silence. The word God conjures up a belief of an old man in the sky who is constantly watching over us and passing judgement on all that we do, and this is the belief of most, so called, 'religious people' and the churches. Science will only believe what it can prove and that is fine, as long as they keep an open mind. An atheist has a closed mind, just as many religious people do. I think that we can be sure of a purpose to life, but that we will understand it all,while we are here in this body, is very unlikely. I do feel that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. Make the 'golden rule', your way of life and you will never stray far from the truth. Blessings.
@BLTLife (337)
• United States
21 Feb 12
@Jhovarie
Just because you remember something doesn't mean it exists. People can remember anything. From their 1st pair of shoes all the way to a spaghetti monster they thought about when they were 5 years old.
Memory doesn't equate to truth. And neither does the fear of dying and the afterlife.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
19 Feb 12
I just wanted to tell you that your understanding of things is pretty interesting. Meditation and searching within one's self would probably be more fulfilling than science or religion. It might stop fights as well because religion can't prove a God exists and science can't prove a God exist. So its basically two sides fighting to prove or disprove something that they can't. I am curious do you believe in what some monks believe and that is a search or path towards true enlightenment rather than science or religion. I am sorry if it seems odd to ask, but I am very interested in your point.
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@samar54 (2454)
• Egypt
19 Feb 12
Strange story of the boat
A challenged atheists - who do not believe in God - Muslim Sheikhs in one country,they chose brightest to reply to him,and set a date for that. On time everyone watch the arrival of the Sheikh ,but he was delayed. Said the atheist the audience: your Sheikh is escaped and he is afraid, because he knew I'll win him, and proved to you that the universe has no God! During his talk was attended by the Sheikh and apologized for the delay , he was said, when I'm on the way to here,I did not find a boat express by the river, waited on the beach, and suddenly appeared in the river slabs of wood,gathered together quickly and the system until it became a boat, the boat then approached me,rode it and I came to you . Said the atheist: this man is crazy, how to gather wood and becomes a boat without being made ??by one, and how it moves without the presence of driven?! Smiled Sheikh and said: What do you say about yourself and you say that this great universe, the great without God?!
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
20 Feb 12
Patience. In time, science will discover God. This discovery is a very long way off in the future but it will happen. The physical sciences will be learned first. They are much easier. There will come a time when mankind will move beyond the physical in their understanding of reality. Science will discover God before religion does.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
20 Feb 12
Question sir bird123. Why science need or what are the reasons of needing to discover God?
Every human science discoveries or learned and put into laws as for general understanding laymen terms or guide are deemed to be out-ruled or break or surpassed beyond to the law of science of humans. Like the law of gravity for instance, we learned how to out-ruled or fight against from that science law of physics or aerodynamics. i.e. as of for flying or going into Earth's orbit.
Those who reasons of needing or wanting of proving of God existence, are those who don't truly really believe, trust or love God. For true believers of God with true faith, trust and love don't need or want of reasons of proving God existence. The words of wisdom or words of truths from God are just enough for believers to shed lights from darkness.
@woolscupiee (185)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
God do exist.That is the truth. This life of ours is not coincidence. We have feelings, we are able to feel love. Science and Religion does not oppose each other, Science proves the truthfulness of the bible.
@Jhovarie (1168)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
hello you said Science and religion does not oppose i guest you are correct if the scientist is really good or the study of scientist is really correct it does not oppose the holly book..
i hope you must check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGsTGTM3kk actually its Quran and science ( 1 of 7 ) just watch the other video.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
20 Feb 12
Science doesn't have enough data to prove there is no God anymore than Spirituality has the data to prove evolution is wrong.
I often have people of science challenge me to prove God exists to them, but they can't use the same standard they demand I use to prove God to prove to me Roentgen (Element 111) exists.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
No of course it is not a stupid question. But the question is as old as human beings stupidity, ignorance and illiterate of God existence by the light and power of knowledge and wisdom.
The real truth is there are no reasons of needs to prove God existence. Because, even earthly bound human beings science knowledge can't prove or disprove that God is existing. Though, God is really existing. It is just simply a matter of personal perceptions thru faith, trust and love.
Reason why proving God existence is not an issue. God is beyond time and space. God created, invented and designed time and space. God don't need to be in time and space, because God is the master of all. Only us human beings need time and space as all are part of God's creations.
If you really want or enthusiastic with burning desires to prove God existence, just simply believe, trust and love God. If you don't, you loose God. And, you can't prove anything at all. And, that's make your question become stupid or nonsense at all, you are just wasting your precious golden treasures of time and space.
@sinnedsejatnom (1311)
• Philippines
21 Feb 12
The answer depends on our religion and how strong our faith is on the god that we believe in. Scientists only believes on what can be explained through science. But believing that God do exist measures our faith and trust to him even when we cannot see him. It's from our mind and heart/feelings that strengthens our relationship with God and believing in him.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
5 Mar 12
Some won't believe the Bible (a book) that someone has written, but they will believe a scientist (or whoever) that says God does not exist.
May I ask what the difference here is? A book written by someone or someone speaking their opinion based on their bias?
True science CANNOT prove God exists. Science is based on observation. Empirical evidence.
God, does not need to be proven in this matter.
If you truly want to know God, and seek the truth in the matter, you will find Him.
@taheraa (1545)
• Giza, Egypt
16 Mar 12
All things in the universe arround us testifies to the existence of great creator. And also, if we look to ourselves, all that show on the existence of God even if does not seen. God revealed the Quran to show and explain to us the way and the methodology of Human life. We have to read and look at the Scriptures, before we judge and believe them. And like any other science if we did not understand any things of them, we should consult with religion specialists to clarify what we did not understand.
@musicloverfriend (1465)
• India
2 Apr 12
Hello..first of all the question is not stupid..but i think god exist...Olden times peple used to think that god created this world..now we know that universe is crated my big bang...but the ting is that a universe is created by colliding two universes..this collision results in explosion..this is what we call it as big bang..this one was said by Michio Kaku...but another question arises.where did this infinite universe came from??there comes the answer of god....
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
22 Feb 12
Few scientists claim that a god does not exist. They just state that there is not sufficient evidence existent at this time to support the existence of a god or gods.
@Flashpointer (784)
• Philippines
22 Feb 12
Well in my opinion, that God exists even if we don't see Him, touch Him nor talk to Him in person. If you are really a true believer, you will feel Him that He really exists in our hearts, our mind, and in our spirits. As I have observed, most scientists don't believe that God existed because they have their own principles of scientific beliefs to follow, some theories to follow and some don't believe God exist because of what have happened to them in the past that seems tragic which they tend to lose hope and happens to close their minds to God.
@ALOK123 (9)
•
25 Mar 12
what i believe is that there is no god its just a product of human thinking.we human always try to find a support . when we are not able to understand certain phenomena we start hidindg our helplessness by saying that god is responsible for this.but i am sure one day we humans will able to understan all phenomenas and becoome aware that there is no god. similarly when something bad and uncontrolable happens to us we need a support which give rises to our imaginery thinking "god" .
