Who is to blame for high gas prices?
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
February 20, 2012 7:33pm CST
Gas prices have skyrocketed the last few weeks, and there is no reason at all for this. While people have been blaming world events for this, oil as a whole hasn't gone up as much as gas. There are many other factors that should be considered when you look at this situation. Oil supplies are not strained, many refineries have new membranes which increases productivity and profits, there are two huge refineries near completion, and world wide demand is down. So, there is NO logical explanation for gas prices going up. So why are they? And who is to blame?
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12 responses
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Unfortunately there's really nothing that can be done about it. In a free market the most powerful tool of the consumer is competition. There is no competing force with oil as far as gas goes. The next most popular fuel in America is ethanol which is more expensive, and less efficient. It's also harder to find. Behind that is natural gas which is equally efficient, and less expensive, but extremely difficult to find and, to my knowledge, only a few states even sell cars that run off natural gas like the natural gas Honda Civic.
If another equally reliable fuel were to become more available, that could be used to bring gas prices down. As it is, oil has the monopoly and despite supposed laws against price fixing, nothing is done to prevent it even though we know the techniques they use to keep prices high like selling American oil to other countries to decrease supply, thus making demand seem higher. The global market gives them the power to use another country's demand against our supply.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
23 Feb 12
X, I deal with two school bus fleets that have natural gas buses, and you aren't allowed to smoke within 200 feet of the fueling station. Could you imagine what would happen the first time a store clerk needs a smoke?
I think that nat gas may be an answer, but I can tell you that the car companies wouldn't be happy. Although they would cost more because of the fuel change over, they would cost much less to fuel, and nat gas does a fraction of the damage to an engine. You have no soot build up, and the oil coming out after normal milage looks just like new oil.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
22 Feb 12
I hate to agree with you, but all of your points are correct. Until we as Americans demand an alternative to gas we will always be a slave to big oil companies. The most intelligent alternative is natural gas, but dispensing is a huge problem. I can't wait to see what happens the first time some idiot tries to put natural gas in his car while he is smoking.
The laws for price fixing are a joke, just look at what happened on 9/11, and how many of those companies were fined.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Ultimately, it is the President's fault. He is the guy in charge. There are things he can do to knock down prices. He could release some from the reserves temporarily. Grant a few new permits and get some long term plans started.
For Congress, repealing the gas tax would be a good start.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Then the solution is still pretty obvious. Approve the permits for new refineries and still release some of the reserves. The upward supply should push prices down effectively enough to get the Mid-East back in line and show Iran we really have no use for their oil. All of the solutions toward driving prices down point directly at an increase in domestic.
The President could also make a temp deal with Canada to use their refineries. That alone will save on shipping costs. Too bad he had to harm the relationship with our Northern neighbors.
Oh yeah, I know. It is against his "Environmentalist base."
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Or use the extra oil exchange it to China for loan payments. Get some breathing room on the National Debt and restore the faith that he can actually keep a promise.
@crossbones27 (49723)
• Mojave, California
21 Feb 12
I do not know, because I heard a guy saying even if we open up more reserves that we don't have enough refineries to refine the oil. That all we do now is drill the oil sell it to other countries, have them refine it, and then buy it back. People are just going to have to find other ways of transportation because government is not going to solve this problem. To many oil companies our in our politicians pockets for them to do anything. Anytime we start to have problem with any Mid Eastern countries they jack up the oil prices. Which is like every 6 months.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Feb 12
I have a theory. It's a little rough yet but I think its at a presentable stage now. It really is very simple. George Bush forgot to leave the gas price dial in the white house when he finished his term and moved out. I understand Obama has had the staff turn the entire white house upside down looking for it.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
23 Feb 12
He probably has it in Crawford on E-bay for a BILLION dollars!!!!!
@crossbones27 (49723)
• Mojave, California
21 Feb 12
I think its a conspiracy, because jobs are doing better and they are just trying to stick to Obama because his ratings are going up. They are mad at him for mot approving the Keystone pipeline. If you kill job growth raise the gas prices. Obama's ratings go back down. People need to wise up and try to find other solutions to oil. I am going to go buy one of those electric scooters until people invent something that is more affordable. Gas in California is already over 4 dollars a gallon and its not even close to summer when gas always is at its highest peak. I am done playing with these greedy b@stards.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
21 Feb 12
It wouldn't surprise me one bit, I have no idea how much money big oil has donated to Obama, but you know they are sending money to the RNC!!! Bill Clinton understood the direct connection between oil prices, and discretionary spending, and vowed to keep oil prices down.
There is a guy that lives by me that created a 400 horse power Ford Mustang that gets 98 miles per gallon!!! Why won't the government force GM and Chrysler (because we still own them) to use this technology to hit the oil companies where it hurts: in the wallet!!!! I don't blame you one bit for finding an alternative.
@crossbones27 (49723)
• Mojave, California
21 Feb 12
I think I saw something like that on a tv program a couple years back. There was a guy who had his own business and all he did was make muscle cars more fuel efficient. Like you said, while keeping most if not all their horse power. We can do a lot of things its just, know one wants to put money into these things because I guess they are scared of being called an environmentalist" I never got that argument, Why are you not going to take care of the planet that gave you life? Since we are on the car subject. I will use it for my analogy. The planet is like a car, if you take care of it, it will take care of you. Everyone keeps saying going green is just to costly our doesn't create jobs. Everything is costly at first but once you figure it out and can produce things in mass quantity prices go down. Then you will create more sustainable jobs unlike oil which is not sustainable. Plus you greatly improve the quality of life for everyone in the world. People just need to quit making excuses.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Last I heard Obama had gotten around half a million from big oil. I can assure you that every major candidate gets plenty of money from big oil. They can't afford to have a president that is not in their pocket.
I constantly hear stories about these magical cars that get 100 miles to the gallon debater. Until someone can actually put one out there for people to really see I'll see it as nothing more than a myth.
Nobody is afraid of making green technology crossbones. It's such a popular fad right now that people are putting out things that aren't green in the slightest, but still slapping a "green" sticker on them. My wife's laptop got destroyed by a "green" power cable. The intermittent crap on it was meant to stop consuming power when the laptop's battery was charged. Instead the piece of crap fried the laptop's power supply. Even crap like the Chevy Volt isn't green in the slightest. It's a freaking COAL POWERED CAR. Of course if you aren't shoveling coal into it you get to pretend it runs off of magical clean energy.
@edwarthefamily (42)
• United States
22 Feb 12
When Iran cut off their exports to France and UK, the countries are now relying on alternative sources, thats what i think. but also everyone now thinks the price of gasoline is gonna rise because of teh conflict with iran so because of fears the price rises.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
22 Feb 12
That is more of an excuse than anything else. Iran doesn't export that much oil, and if Russia and other countries around Europe service them they could actually block Iran out of the picture. This actually could be a great thing for these countries, and a disaster for Iran.
@way2vision (613)
• Canada
22 Feb 12
Well I heard it suppose to go down by 0.3 of a cent, but still ridiculous cause it goes up by 1 cent and only drop 0.3 cent. I blame investors to be honest, they have all the power to boost commodities up. For example, who is actually running around demanding for gold, I understand its precious, but why is the price so high when there is really no true use for it currently. Even electronics who use gold wiring don't utilize that much gold to increase prices.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
22 Feb 12
The problem with oil futures is the amount of money that you have to put down to purchase a contract. In some markets it is still only 10%, so you can buy a million dollars worth of oil for only $100,000. One of the largest problems/gambles with gold is the fact that no one knows how much there is in the world. Most countries consider it a matter of national security, and won't tell their own people how much gold they really have.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
21 Feb 12
It is like a lot of things it is uncertainty. Business does not like uncertainty. Right now we have a surplus of oil and gasoline but the future outlook is uncertain. There is trouble in the middle east, the government has turned down the pipeline deal, Oil drilling in the gulf and in Alaska is uncertain. Third world countries are new emerging markets and the need for oil and gasoline will be increasing. The Government regulators and coming up with new regulations all the time and many of them make no sense and again what will they come up with in the future.
What is a business that depends on oil and gasoline to do? They try to lock into prices so you know what your expenses will be in the future. They buy futures contract locking in today's prices for the future. Sometimes they win and sometimes they lose but they do know what their costs are going to be.
Eliminate the uncertainty and you will see economic growth, stable oil and gasoline prices.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
22 Feb 12
Bob, I hear that on the right wing news all the time, but I talk to business owners every day and none of them complain about uncertainty. The United States recovered more oil last year than any other year in decades. But, we are still exporting more oil in this country than we use of our own, which should tell everyone why opening up more land for drilling doesn't make sense unless you force them to use the oil here.
The only way to stabilize oil and gas prices is to create competition for them. Right now they have no competition at all, and can charge as much as they want.
@mensab (4200)
• Philippines
21 Feb 12
there is a sense of helplessness on the government side when it comes to dealing with the oil companies because of the deregulation law. "let the market dictate the prices" is always invoked by the liberal economists. but time and again, the market has shown to be heartless and inconsiderate of the plight of the people. it is the people in the government that some heart must prevail.
@amko1of1 (69)
• United States
21 Feb 12
First off the prices are based on supply and demand. Secondly the price changes based on expectations of supply and demand. Also oil is an inelastic good, which basically means that as the price goes up, the demand for the good will only slightly change if it changes at all. Which basically means they can keep increasing the price and as long as people dont make huge life changes they will continue to keep buying oil and paying the steeper prices. Also with the Iran issues, the world supply is becoming strained and also global demand is still going up with China being the largest increase in the last couple of years.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
22 Feb 12
Oil doesn't work off of supply and demand principles, it basically works on a we are going to charge you what ever you will pay principle. If you look at the base oil market right now, it is actually down because demand from China is down. But, gas prices are up, and there is even less reason for that. Most of the refineries have changed their membranes that they use in the refining process, so they are as efficient as they are going to be, which means they are much more profitable than last year. That also means that they can refine more oil than they could last year. I agree that Americans need to change their oil consumption practices or we will be reliant on big oil till we die.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
21 Feb 12
I really did not get the total concept until the last few weeks. I really did not understand that our US producers are actually export a lot of the gasoline and ethanol made in the here in the US. With this in mind, I am total for getting rid of any subsidizing that is going on. There is no need of subsidees if we have created an export market for all of this. We are increasing our food prices, and are exported it to other countries as ethanol.
From what I can gather, many of the overseas country are bidding up the price on our domestic made fuels, and we are selling more and more overseas. Our prices are the best for them, and in return it raises our prices. Talk about a world economy, well, it is coming fast, and we will have to start paying the same price for fuels as the rest of the world.
@laura1991 (177)
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28 Feb 12
the banks are to blame. fact! the banks run the world not polititions. the president is just a puppet who does what he is told by the banks. its there plan for the new world order which is already well on its way. america has enough oil to last 300 years! research the new world order on you tube. dont take my word for it or judge, look it up. its easy to find. just type in new world order on youtube.
@jhuddith (222)
• Philippines
21 Feb 12
Based on the political history, when our country's oil/gas industries were regulated by the government, the prices were not that high. The government even subsidize a portion of the price so as a result, the people are enjoying lower gas/oil price. When the oil/gas pricing was deregulated, oil companies just collaborated with the other oil companies and continue to increase their prices. Now, the oil/gas prices are way way high.. :-(
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
22 Feb 12
I personally believe that the government needs to start their own oil company, and use the oil wells that are not being used by oil companies to created and refine our own oil to be used here in the US ONLY!!! But, the right wingers would knock this idea down in a second.