People who want to take out food in your party
By louievill
@louievill (28851)
Philippines
February 28, 2012 11:32am CST
It's a Filipino tradition that when you have a party, you wrap something for the invited guests and family to take out, what I do not like is when they ask you in advance especially when they are uninvited. Actually this is a follow up of another discussion I started here in mylot http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2634971.aspx , uninvited guests asking to take out food after they took their fill? I think this is absurd. I was thinking that maybe they should have been more considerate for the next batch of guests that are coming. Ever encountered such people in your party, asking for "balot" (wrap), I strongly feel that they should wait for the host to ask them if they have some to spare, what's your view on this fellow Filipinos? Now for foreign friends do you have such a tradition in your country?
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
28 Feb 12
I agree this is a common tradition here in our country.
I also agree that, it is okay if there were no more guest coming.
Visitors must be considerate enough to think that.,there are more guest coming.
But what can we do- this is common and we cannot avoid people who gatecrash and food crash (lols)
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
28 Feb 12
hi jaiho, sometimes I tend to laugh than get angry, yes it's really okay with me to give but that is voluntarily although it's taboo in my family to ask even when we were young, we always wait for the offer. There was this woman, an uninvited guest who barged into the kitchen asking for a "take out" despite having already eaten, the kitchen is reserved only for servants, church volunteers and young close relatives who helped served and wash the dishes plus my wife who is the master chef , I think that was really rude of her, and it's the first ime I saw my soft spoken wife really become a different person to a fellow human being
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@mammots (3209)
• Philippines
25 Feb 16
@louievill I dont like it too but thats one disadvantage of having extended families that most Filipinos have. There are no invited or uninvited guests there only "guests".
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
25 Feb 16
@mammots You are very right there, but on this occasion, they were no longer relatives, they are church members of my mom, that's still fine but then they also brought people along
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
25 Feb 16
Yes we do that too but i do not like the idea of uninvited guests asking take outs after they had been welcomed and given food just like the invited ones
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
28 Feb 12
Thank you! For once, I am truly glad...I knew when NOT to speak!
I am Canadian...and on Dec. 29, this year, I had a rather large party, celebrating my son's 30th birthday---with foods galore, a huge spread! One couple arrived, she was Japanese (spoke little English) and the husband, Caucasian...and they arrived with take-out food boxes, each filled one..disappeared out and put the boxes in the car, and came back to fill another set of "take-out" boxes! They went about it...like it was the normal thing to do, as we all stood with our mouths agape!
Been around for quite a number of years...and ALL other attendees thought this quite rude...NEVER seen it before! Here, where I live...food is only taken from a party when packaged and offered by the host/hostess! Little did I know it was an accepted tradition in her homeland! But, on the other hand..the old expression; "when in Rome, do as the Romans do!"
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
oh that's a little bit different, it already looks like food ransack wholesale, here the " balot" is usually just a bag. If that happened here most Filipinos would not just stand with mouth agape, somebody would be calling there attention or some might even act more differently especially if some of the guests have been drinking. I'm sorry for what happened in your son's party, I could almost feel what you must have felt, yes Mylot is a good place to breath out some things we tend not to speak about anymore.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
29 Feb 12
Thank you, louievill...even responding to this discussion, I was still astounded at the temerity of this couple (guess I can close my agape mouth now!) I truly was in a stupor, watching this happen..and when they did it the second time...I had to control friends and family members, as they watched their tasty treats disappear, from saying anything!
What do you think that proper manner would have been to approach this?? I really wanted to say; "I appreciate that you enjoy these treats so much, you wish some later...but ALL the other guests would like some to enjoy now!" Whatever I thought in my mind, at the time, seemed inappropriate...as I was dealing with a different culture----but her Canadian husband should have known better. Thank you for this discussion..it allowed me to rant!
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
1 Mar 12
NO, louievill...they were NOT directly invited, but not for any reason other than they weren't in my circle of friends/or family!
The situation is unusual here...I live on a small Island, a small community, and word travels FAST, when a gathering is happening! People are polite enough to understand this...and uninvited guests DO show up, and most oftened welcomed courteously...unless raucous, drunk OR scavengers..LOL!
YOU are right, pretty brazen food ransacking! But I am still astounded, as they made it look like their right!
Absolutely enjoyable chatting with you, louievill! Have a great one!
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
28 Feb 12
Due to the very long distances friends and family traveled during the horse and budggy days plus that people usually cook the day before and add to the party, so the next day, they would like to rest, yes, where I live in Northern NY State USA, we take the leftovers and divide them up.
Uninvited guests. Who is telling them about your party? The uninvited guests and people who can't keep their mouths shut get to do cleaning. That generally stops that, I've found.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
1 Mar 12
, that would be rude, better get a jammer and watch them think there is something wrong with their CPs
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
I think that was very understandable during the pioneering days friend cause it was a matter of survival back then, and it was splitting the leftovers among them selves, the situation here is quite different, you host a party and afterwards it's sort of a tradition that you wrap take out for close guests and relatives, problem is some people can't wait and worse is if they are uninvited and after eating still want to take out
I think gate crashers get more sophisticated with technology, they can take pictures of what's on the table and send it through text
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@Letranknight2015 (51969)
• Philippines
25 Feb 16
And this is why I don't want parties because you ran out of food just before you could eat them. some people simply just do just that.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
25 Feb 16
It will not ran out if only invited guests come and wait for the host to offer them the take out.
@Letranknight2015 (51969)
• Philippines
25 Feb 16
@louievill she didn't even invite anybody but it seems her bday was known in facebook!
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@ida123 (6206)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
26 Feb 16
When we have party, we're going to distribute to our neighbors the prepared foods but the invited closed friends and relatives were the only one who can get inside our house and eat. We used this kind of set up to avoid gate crushers.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
29 Feb 12
Hi Louievill,
I live in the US and we do not have any such tradition. I think that I would be breaking it if we did. Uninvited guests especially should not be expecting to take out food. Truthfully, I think it is wrong to show up to such an event uninvited and the fact that they can and get away with it just leaves the door open to moochers who would attend these parties just for the free food. The only thing even close to that that we do here is on holidays or after a family get-together, everyone will take home some left-overs. Thanksgiving is especially known for the leftovers. Then again, we all also bring something to the get-together so that the host and hostess do not have to bear the full cost.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
hahaha... I was laughing cause I have not heard of the word moochers for a very long time, i know it's a real American word. Yes occasions like thanks giving is okay cause it's confined within the family or very close guests, we also do that on special occasions, think it's called a potluck where you bring your share. Well the occasion we had was similar cause my siblings brought their share, it's just the "moochers" spoiled the fun. Yeah I know you do not have such a tradition cause there are quite a few Americans living in our subdivision with Filipino spouses, after living here for quite some time they learn to adopt and accept our ways that at times may seem to be unethical to other cultures. Some close bonded Filipino communities down there in the U.S. do practice the tradition.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
"uninvited would never dare to ask some food."I think that's a very good practice in your country.
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@Metatronik (6199)
• Pasay, Philippines
29 Feb 12
I can't remember anyone who has been like that but of course I still find it annoying considering that there will be next batch that will. The main reason that we do that it is because we have to be practical that our food won't be wasted. Sometimes isn't that we are forced to take home some food that are being left? Again it is because we are aware that left overs will be waste if we are not going to do that. That is what other Filipinos don't understand about taking out the food. They must have sense of courtesy. And of course we don't want to think that they are "patay gutom" because that is already harsh.
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@neelia_lyn (2003)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
I think this is only in the Philippines. It's more absurd if the one asking if there's an extra for take out is an uninvited person you barely knew.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
Yes only in the Philippines, sometimes I try my best to understand on what some of our country men are becoming, I think it's a bad sign and an indication that poverty is becoming deeper.
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@champoy186 (1638)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
I guess this happens only in the Philippines. I agree that it is kinda rude if they ask even though they are not invited. They should be considerate that more people are coming into your house you invited. In my case, I really don't ask something to take it. I am shy. Lol
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
Yes shy but it's also because you have good upbringing
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@myg2012 (28)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
This "balot" style must be changed because it's really being inconsiderate not only for the coming guests but the host himself. Most parties would usually serve food that is enough for the invited guest. If some would ask for a "balot" or bring along some uninvited, guests the host usually feels comfortable for fear that the food he prepared will not be enough for his invited guests. This habit should be corrected because it has been for centuries and it does not give a positive value.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
I agree but how can we change a Filipino tradition that has been going on for hundreds of years and is somehow connected with Filipino hospitality?
@iamshane487 (1139)
• Manila, Philippines
25 Feb 16
That is not what I like about celebrating because the uninvited comes. I prefer to just dine out.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
25 Feb 16
That's good if it's a family affair but my mother wanted it done at home cause she's a lady pastor ( assistant) in her church.
@brokenbee (11090)
• Philippines
25 Jan 16
Whoa! Yes, there are people who are not ashamed to ask for food even if they had already eaten. I have relatives who are like that. That is why we have to cook extra food because for sure, they will ask for more.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
25 Jan 16
relatives are still fine. I can tolerate that but the uninvited brought by the invited or what we call " sabit", it's enough that they have eaten, I want to share and with what little i have, but abuse and take out is a different story.
@anne25penn (3305)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
I'm also from the Philippines but it has never been a tradition when there is a party or get together that we send food home to the guests. My family just finds this tacky and as if you are sending your leftovers to your guests. Besides, we only cook or prepare enough food so that there is minimal spoilage or leftovers. The only food that you will find us distributing amongst guests and family after a party are cakes or pastries, but never viands.
I guess this is a habit or tradition among some Filipinos. I recall one time that I had a party and had this high school friend over. We were all enjoying the party and when it was time to go home I never knew that she was waiting for me to wrap her some food to bring home. Now, I don't really prepare a lot of food for any party, no exceptions. I told her that it was like scraps that were left and she replied that it's okay even if it were considered scraps! My stand in preparing food for a party is that it's okay to have little food and just order at a later time if people are still hungry, rather than prepare a lot then wrap everything afterwards for everyone to bring home. I mean, everyone has picked on it, the food has stood at room temperature, it won't be eaten right away when the guests get home. So chances are these will be spoiled by the time it gets home. So I don't practice this wrap thing even if I will look bad amongst my guests.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
We often celebrate family parties in a good Chinese restaurant so the pabalot is always fresh new cooked food that's "take out", the scrap left overs are placed on what we call doggie bags and are meant for our pets. This party we had was a bigger affair ( not the usual thing we do) cause my mom was turning 80, so it involved her church and some other organizations she is affiliated, so needless to say it was Fiesta Style with a large "lechon" ( roasted pig) and everything, so I think these is a good environment where the pabalot people thrives. No we do not wrap food that's been on the serving table, the wraps come direct from the kitchen and are still in the large cauldrons where they were cooked so it's still quite virgin. That's why we control the kitchen and do not like guests to go in. The lechon of course is in the table so at times it's re cooked to another delicious dish called "lechon paksiw"
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@tipay26 (867)
• Philippines
28 Feb 12
It is a common happening in our country and there are times that it can get annoying too. If you were a guest of a certain party I think you should wait for the host to offer you that.and if you are a family member like a close relative you can ask for it after the party and just be thankful for it.There are some of us that is making parties a good way of getting freebies and it is such a shame at times.Its a tradition here in our country specially if you live in a province.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
28 Feb 12
Maybe we should limit our kindness especially when we feel people are trying to take advantage, I know Filipinos are hospitable and at times hosts really and truly honestly love to give take outs especially to somebody really close and if he or she senses that there is somebody who was not able to come, then we give take outs to somebody who could give it to that person just so she can partake of our labor of love, it's just that some un welcome people take advantage of the tradition
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@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
6 Mar 12
Well, just charge it to experience.... Next time it won't be a bad idea to send out invitation cards rather than verbal invitations since people who don't have one will tend to have second thoughts if they don't have that piece of paper the invitee has.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
7 Mar 12
I don't think giving invitation will work in this country just yet especially if your family is not in the "alta sociedad" list like the lopezes or the ayalas. In most cases, people will invite themselves and pretend to pass by your house and pretend to ask something waiting for you to invite them to have something to eat and won't leave until you do so or worse invite themselves in along with a couple more invited guests as moral support . But like you said, it's a typical filipino attitude. No matter how pissed off we are about seeing those people you haven't seen before still we force ourselves to smile and tell them to have a good time and all. And then we hear gossips circulating about how bad the food tastes or they were not fed at all .
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Mar 12
guess we all have to live by that, but you don't have to be "alta social" to understand a basic practice regarding an invitation, just basic education and basic common sense
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
6 Mar 12
invitation in our country is like giving out passes to those who have them to bring somebody along. No honestly I think invitations are very effective in a formal gathering where the place is like classy and there is some sort of a dress code and all the fancy stuff... but we Filipinos are used to fiestas wherein in some provinces people invite other people to eat even if they don't know them, on the up side , I guess that is how hospitable we are as a people, handing out invitations is something we got from our Western influence.
@r3jcorp (1382)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
That's the real situation here in our country and maybe that is also the reason why it is more practical on the long run to have your party in a good restaurant. First, you will not go through the hassle of the preparations, convenience for the visitors as they will be sitted and have good tables and nice ambiance and you will avoid the hard cleaning up after the occassion. Then of course, you can make a list of the person you just wanted to invite and make sure that everyone would have food to enjoy.
Likewise, for every invitation that I received, I never asked for a food wrap unless if they insisted on giving something for the other members of the family who couldn't attend the occassion. By doing this, maybe when I decide to have a party in my house, they will not ask for a food wrap in return.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
Like I mentioned, we always celebrate family affairs in good restaurants like Toho (oldest restaurant in the Philippines), Max's (another old place) and lately we discovered Luk Fu beside Puregold here in Las Pinas, but this was a different kind of affair, I cannot apply the same and bring them all to a restaurant, I'll be financially ruined and go bankfupt
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@butterscotsh (1012)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
Oh I love taking out pabalots from parties o fiestas! Free food! haha.
But I agree that it's really really rude to do it when they are uninvited.
Whenever I want to pabalot, I make sure to let the host first and I also make
sure other persons are doing it too. I don't want to be the only one
taking out food.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
I also love "pabalots". it's just we were trained as children never to ask and always wait and accept if you are offered. I remember attending a friend's party and she cooked the most wonderful " arroz ala Valenciana" ( a Filipino-Spanish rice dish), I really wished she would offer me if I wanted to take out so what I did was keep on praising here cooking till she said " do you want some to take home?" Oh that really brightened my day " then she said why didn't you ask me?" so I told her that we were taught even as children to wait, it's the same way I don't go to my God parent's house on Christmas cause it's like asking for money. She really gave me a lot
I love "pabalot" cause you can eat it in the comfort of your own home, you can even eat it while Mylotting!
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@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
28 Feb 12
That is a Filipino tradition and most people who hold parties or fiestas actually prepare more food expecting the "take out" for some visitors. I have attended such parties where there were preparations made beforehand for the "pabalot". The party organizers seem to be happy doing these since I have observed this custom many times when the organizers would not allow you to leave without having some "take out" for the family members who were unable to attend the gathering. This tradition is very evident in the provinces where party organizers look at this as a part of their responsibility to the visitors. What becomes wrong if you ask in advance for the "take out". Just wait for the organizer to voluntarily hand you the "balot" before you go home. Some may not be aware of the fact that the food prepared might just be enough for those invited.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
29 Feb 12
Yes, actually we prepared extra that is about the same or more as the number of expected guests cause we understand how we Filipinos are, there should have been more than enough and even enough "pabalot" for love ones, relatives and invited guests, I think the problem was the large number of uninvited who brought more people ( complete story is in my other discussion).