Couldn't...with ALL that money..the RICH buy some morals???

My dear, you have a way of putting things so succinctly..and in perspective! Not a lot, can ruffle my feathers (or fur, in this case)..but I am so abhored the rich probably got that way exploiting the poor...and they continue to do so having them perform more acts of illegality! I really am ashamed of Canada, for playing host to these ingrates!

hi aerous you are right on pergammano did not realize you were talking about the women buying thee pelts for fur coatrs,t hey are greedy and self loving. a nmive cloth coat would do just fine and leave the ani mals to do what they are3 s upposed to do.roam f free. It is a corruption I wo uld never ever wear a fur coat. clothe is just fine. I love to see animals roaming free in our ooutdoors.

Even if money is the issue I still drag corruptions because it mess up the lives of many people in the society

Hello Hatley, nice to have a conversation again with you. It's been a long time that I can't have any comments in your post. I hope your doing fine and doing very well...How are you now?

OMG....are you thinking out loud for me??? You have put into a few short words exactly what REALLY should happen! Just love it, writers!

We had a judge in NY State who had before a rich man. The man said his tenament housing was quite livable. Unbeknownst to the rich man, the Judge, he was in front of, had grown up in a tenament house. So the Judge said, "Since it's quite liveable, you won't mind living there yourself for a month." Left the rich man stuttering. The Judge assigned a cop 24-7 to make sure that when the man wasn't working his usual hours, he was living at the tenament. Then at the end of the month, he had to come back. The rich man said, "I guess it could use some fixing." The Judge said,"I suppenoed all your tenament records. In 10 years, you fixed nothing. I own a house, just a house, and I have to fix something every year." The rich man complained that he couldn't afford that, to which the Judge replied,"You made millions off the poor and have given nothing back to your tenaments. I expect 50% to go back into each place." More judges like that and the world would be a much better place.

Thank you for best response, but we might end up getting this booted off.

Truly appreciate your response! I think it's time for the world to unite and make them our target for practice shooting (like writersedge says here) and they might get a sense then of their cruelty. The rich, have ravaged and pillaged the entire world, wiping out beautiful creatures of Mother Earth! How do we STOP them?

I am just so wrankled over this entire situation..and I know this is not new, it happened to India's beautiful creatures..the Ivories, the furs...and these poor, be it your country or mine...DID NOT even know they needed money??? We created the need for money...then exploit them! The Arctic aboriginals did not know they needed ski-doos..or man-made clothing and foods...'til we educated them (or what we call education!) I am just brushing the tip of the ice-berg here, and I know I am all over the map...but this is insult to injury...when it's my country...SHAME on you..CANADA!

Thanks, I needed an understanding soul! I have failed in relating all the facts...for the latest fur trader's sale, there were over 6000 persons repesenting buyers for 84 pelts (Polar Bear hides)! THE very MAXIMUM...wildlife conservations suggested, in order to keep the species viable...was 32! They are nearing extinction due to mankind...and environment! The environment (Polar bears, because of their habitat are really a barometer for measuring Global warming) is becoming inhabitable...the species are weak, and underweight...as we have also fished out their food supply! SOON, they will just be a lovely memory! And another disgusting aside...The EU just voted to bail GREECE out of it's financial disaster...Guess what...The Greeks outnumbered even the Asians at this last auction! Shouldn't they be bailing out their own country? I know..time to put this all to rest, and thanks, dearheart for allowing me to rant!

Oh dear... Have a warm hug from me Now take a deep breath and think - the world is better and there are only a handful lot who are the Bad ones. As long as these smaller quantities exist, World remains better as there is more good than bad. If it would have been the other way... you know the good ones would have been hunted down too and then after all this it would have been only a bad world - everyone killing, everyone doing illegal and there would have been no law or word called morality, ethics. Personally, blaming an entire community or a country for the deeds or rather misdeeds of a small bunch is being too harsh and I understand right now, my dear is feeling too much depressed and sad. Wish somehow I could pep her back and get things better for her.

Good comments! There are many that suffer, in this horrible exchange; the beautiful majestic bear, ripped from his family...the aboriginal whom is risking prosecution, and a very altered lifestyle with his new affluence...and the rest of us Canadians, whom are hanging our heads in shame, over this atrocity...and the fact were are the only country nationwide involved in this carnage!

hi pergammano I am so glad you made this discussion as I had mot heard about the Beautiful Polar bears being hunted down for their pelts til now. this is so truly awful and the waay they 'are doing it with using the natives makes it even worse.The corrupt rich corrupting the natives who were before not killing anything except for food.This is truly tragetic.

YOU are just plain right...enjoy them as is! I truly DO know about morals..and the basis for them...but I sure wished I could wave a magic wand, that would infuse them with some so they would stop destruction with their wealth! The Polar Bear is just the latest in the legacy of beautiful animals reaching their demise, because of greed. The rich create Black Markets! I'm sorry...GG, I really get worked up about this!

I think I need to hire you to write my discussions here..you have made my point, with decorum! Not only is worldwide species of absolutely phenomenal creatures becoming unsustainable..just so the rich can own a piece of them...BUT the "way of life" is destroyed in it's wake! The aborignals of the Arctic, India, Africa, etc., are having their true environment destroyed by money! Let alone their morals! Yes, left alone to their own way of life, these animals were slaughtered...but only for the basics of life..food and clothing! AND left alone, they harvested wisely, and sustainably! They had LIFE value..not $$$ value! Truly appreciate your input, sid556 and validating my thoughts!

For the want of adornment, the need to own..especially that which is precious, or precarious..they stop at nothing! Not only have they wiped out the supply Ivory, the beautiful jaguars for pelts, the precious white tiger..now the need for obtainment is destroying the Polar Bear, and putting a high demand of other creatures of the Arctic. The life-style of the aborigines is destroyed! Until the rich created a demand..there was never an unsustainable harvest, they harvested only for the basic needs, food and clothing! Put an unsustainable label on it..or facing extinction and it becomes a fore-runner of the Black Market! Sorry, Jen, I really am stoked on this one..and so ashamed of my Country!

Morals can't be bought! is there a super market that sells morals? if there is one please let me know!

@julianmac! Money has created an entirely new environment for the aboriginal people's! I am not against the hunting that they performed, before we interfered...as it was done to support and sustain their lives, and that of their families. Very few parts of the harvested animal, were not put to use...even if it was just to feed their dog sled team! Money interfered, and they were convinced they needed modern implements...for that they needed money...and the vultures of the rich are right there...dollars flashing to get them to committ illegal acts...for money to buy the things they have never needed! Thanks for your quality exchange! @alottodo...Are you in need of a set?I will search the web, for you!

A set of what? do you mean morals? I don't need one of those! my morals are part of the person I Am!

YOU are so right..Money stops at nothing! Puts you above any law of any land! I really think that if this frenzy were re-directed at doing good, we all might have a different and new respect for money! This is not a small thing, as we are forced to sit back and watch them destroy Mother Nature's creature's on every continent! Thank you for understanding my rant! Cheers!

Dang the rich...so arrogant and untouchable! Dang them for having to have trophies...for raping and pillaging this lovely, lovely animal..for being above the law, in an act that is totally illegal! And dang Canada for being the host to this dispicable practice! Sorry, en...I am just totally outraged....and that is for all the other species in this world, they had to own a piece of -- until they are almost extinct!

Sure makes the expression true;"money is the root of all evil," doesn't it? IF only...they could put this money to GOOD work like mounting huge campaigns to stop the harvesting of unsustainable creatures..or the destruction of their habitat...then we could admire them, NOT look at them with disdain! Thanks Aja, for understanding my rant!

Thank you, ecaron...and I am so glad I have folks like you, of the same mind! I just DO NOT know...how much longer we can continue to abuse Mother Nature, before the whole eco system collapses! My biggest wish would be that the RICH get on board...and spend their money to right the wrongs they are committing! Thank you for your good input!

First, MsH...sincere apologies, I did NOT get notice of your response..I am having a lot of issues with myLot...and spend so much time, just trying to post responses, and poof, they disappear, and many,many days NOT able to access the site...AT ALL! When it comes to Nature, I have this philosophy; "Take NOTHING but pictures...LEAVE nothing but footprints!" Money has created such a "ME"...."I WANT"..."I NEED" society--at the disregard of all else! The path of destruction they leave behind, they don't care if anyone else should/could enjoy if they weren't so selfish! What's so oppressing here, is the last "underground" black market sale of these hides in Ontario...the biggest percentage of buyer's...were GREEKS! The last I saw, the European Union (EU) had just voted to take on Greece's huge debt..and help straighten their economy around! Seems to me, the RICH GREEKS should keep their money at home...take care of their own demise...and NOT contribute to the demise of Mother Nature's Children around the world! What do they need a Polar Bear hide for??? And at the expense of the world's endangered! I know this has happened all over the world, to God's most beautiful creatures...but can't we stop in...somehow? Frustrated, you betcha!

to rac? I meant to grace our forests darn typos sorry. o

No...NO..lovinangel...THIS is NOT new! BUT will we ever learn??? The world over, many, many beautiful...unbelievable incredible animals are nearing extinction...at the brink of extinction! These beautiful species have NO voice...just victims of the rich and selfish. What does a Greek need a Polar Bear Rug for....a Canadian need an Ivory bracelet for? (If I had money) I would be sooooooo demoralized, using my wealth to squander the rights of natives to met my desires. I truly get heartsick over the devastation humans create...not caring about the beautiful balance Mother Nature creates! I don't rant often...but sometimes it just boils over...and I thank you for your support!

Hiya pergamano, Alas we all know that it is not new. It was forbidden to bring certain Species of Parrots to this Country as they were putting them into Suitcases rolled up in Cardboard Rolls and in the dark of the Suitcase with almost no ventilation. Yet they still bring them because now each Parrot can be worth up to one thousand euros or more a time so that is the sole reason and no other for them smuggling them in. That is just one of them as you know. One Guy here kept a Lion on the Fifth Floor and used to take it up and down in the Lift of a Night time so no one would see him. How cruel to the Animal Lions and Tigers are favourites here as Pets believe it or not and they castrate them so they won´t cause so much problems like making lots of noise. We could go on and on Animals belong in the Wild while it is true that certain Parks can help save them until they can go back to the Wild again. There are a few of those here too dedicated to getting these Animals rescued and saved from silly People that think they can keep a Lion or a Tiger or even a Bear has been known and especially badly treated are Monkeys that are caged up for years with no sunlight with all the blessed sunlight we have here and they lock them up in dark Rooms can you understand it I can´t and I don´t try to very often these People need to be fined and Jailed and learn for once and for all that not everything belongs to them just because they want it to be so.xxx

Hey, precious...thanks for the input and taking time out of your harried schedule--means a lot!!! As I said in my response to JenInTn, I am very busy, chasing causes...too many irons in the fire! But just so you know..."The Rain Forest" is NOT one that has flown under my radar...I belong to another site, where I don't earn money.. I earn "butterfly rewards", and after so many kazillion rewards...I can buy property, and I am the proud, deeded owner of 1/3 of an acre of the rain forest! And working hard towards owning more! If we stop and think about it...before BIG money had to have things like; Ivory and pelts (et al) there was harmony! Sure, gorgeous creatures were killed, by aboriginals...BUT for food, clothing..and shelter! They were killed sustainably..and oft times even managed harmoniously, as they knew they were reliant on them for their own existence! BIG money walks in..puts a bigger value on the commodity...and lives are destroyed ....forever! Hoping you are having some success in your quest, dearheart! SO very nice to hear from you! Take care...HUGZ to your children!

And right now...I am DANG ashamed that I am Canadian! We are the only country in the world selling these pelts...and what knocked me flat, a large percentage of them are Greeks...(huh, isn't the rest of the world in the midst of bailing them out?) Please..NO, disdain meant! I cannot understand the need for causing destruction and devastation with money. Just Can't!