I recently watched a few episodes of Doomsday Preppers
By dragon54u
@dragon54u (31634)
United States
March 9, 2012 8:32am CST
It's entertaining and I learned a few things. However, it gets old after a few episodes. For the most part those preppers were good people with legitimate fears that were trying to protect their families and loved ones. One girl in a city even had plans to painlessly put her cats down so they wouldn't starve to death or suffer in the unrest to follow a disaster.
However, I saw one the other day that really disturbed me. This guy had a decent plan and lots of options, keeping 50 gallons of gasoline on hand for transportation. That's fine. But he taught his children (teens and college age)how to steal gasoline from other peoples' cars should they run short. That disturbed me--he was exhibiting the same behavior he was so afraid of and preparing to protect his family against.
I realize that we do drastic things in drastic situations but I think that is sending the wrong message--survival at any cost, especially to your morals, is not worth it to me. But than I started thinking--if I was with my children and grandchild (due in September!) I would steal gas if it would save their lives. It's a dilemma--I would not want to stoop that low but when I think of it, I probably would if I were not alone.
What do you think of this? Would you hold to your moral standards to protect your own life? Would you violate them to protect a loved one even at the cost of someone else's life? Do you feel like a hypocrite, as I do, when you think of what lengths you would go to in order to protect your family or would you sacrifice everything to remain true to your moral code?
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
18 Mar 12
In a situation which you describe I think it would be a new beginning where our standards and values would have to change so we could survive. It's my idea that soon, the world will be running out of food due to weather catastrophes and farmers being ripped off financially so they have no choice but to walk off the land. It's my idea that I will be needing to grow what ever I can to provide myself with food. I will need to grow enough to exchange for food for my animals. Meanwhile, I will also need to protect my crops somehow because those without the skills or motivation will be constantly attempting to steal the fruits of my labour. I also realise that those from the big cities who are trying to get away will be heading my way to find ways to survive. Hopefully it won't happen in my lifetime but I believe it will happen. We just do not have inexhaustible supplies of everything we need as a race to survive.
I hope I never have to ask myself those hard questions.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
18 Mar 12
It would certainly work for those motivated in that direction but not for everyone. Some would just want to take advantage of the work done by others. I certainly agree with the idea of there being safety and strength in numbers. Keep in mind that there are lots of empty farm houses.
@GardenGerty (160696)
• United States
9 Mar 12
You know, I do not worry about it too much. I guess I would be the type to try to develop a common goal with others and share resources.I am thinking there might not be any roads to drive on, but I might want the gasoline to run the generator that I do not actually have. I also think I would consider taking gasoline from people who did not survive whatever the catastrophe was, but not from people who were still around. It also would be dangerous, as someone might just shoot who ever was stealing.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Mar 12
I would definitely take gasoline from abandoned cars or property and I would also scavenge amongst things left behind but I don't think I'd steal from a fellow survivor.
I don't think most of what these preppers are anticipating will happen. In the event of a nuclear holocaust I don't think I'd want to stick around anyway. I don't think poles will shift all of a sudden or the country will be invaded. But I do recognize the possibility of a hostile government, civil unrest and riots and hungry, desperate people raiding what they can. Those 4 scenarios are the ones that I am preparing to confront. If they don't happen, I have resources for brief emergencies such as gasoline shortages, supply disruption, natural disasters such as tornadoes or and EMP or similar plausible possibilities.
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@GardenGerty (160696)
• United States
9 Mar 12
I do not have any gasoline stored, but I can see some of these other things happening. I have food and water onhand and cat food.
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@dodoguy (1292)
• Australia
16 Mar 12
Hey Lizard Lady,
This subject interests me somewhat, for a couple of reasons...
1. I so envy the resources that are readily and economically available to you folk over there, like freeze-dried vittles and vaccuum packed survival rations, even stuff as basic as hand-cranked canning machines... Almost impossible to get this sort of thing in Australia (I know, you CAN get it, but it's a "luxury" niche - pay through the nose, and then some, for even the most basic of supplies). I COULD get a canning machine if I really really wanted to, but I'd have to import it from India or China for a few grand. Just ridiculous. BUT that all probably stems from the lack of a market for survival goodies here in Australia, which I suppose leads on to the second dimension of my interest, ie -
2. What exactly is it about the USA that has ingrained the population with a sense of impending doom? Surely it hasn't always been like that? Well, maybe it has - what with the fear of nukes raining down on you during the Cold War & etc. But seriously, what is it that is perpetuating this mindset? With the ending of the Cold War, other things being equal, the dark cloud of Armageddon should have lifted and people should be getting on with their lives, confident of their safety and well-being. Has the Military Industrial Complex so entrenched its interests that the US population will always dance to its tune and forever be cowering in fear from some manufactured enemy (eg, the "War on Terror"...)? Or is there some other clear and present danger that threatens to make the sky fall?
Forgive me if I sound cynical, because I'm not trying to be. Here in Australia, things tend to be pretty casual overall, and even when things are looking gloomy, there's always light at the end of the tunnel. I really do get the impression that things are not heading in the right direction over there in the Land of the Free & Home of the Brave.
On a tangential note, adversity generally either brings out the best or the worst in people, and that's when the true character of government agencies etc is bared for all to see. Hopeflly if things do go pear-shaped, the good will outweigh the bad. What was it some character said that's so often quoted (?) - all it takes for bad men to succeed is for good men to do nothing...
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
9 Mar 12
sorry to say but id do anything to save my family. but not nessisarily for myself. if it was just me, id probably just go ahead and die. ive thought many times, im just here for my kids now.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Mar 12
Sometimes I do. Like the dillema I'm in with the goings on in Afghanistan, our troops being killed for an accidental burning of the Quran by those they've trained and lived with for years. I believe the teachings of Christ, to love our enemies and to be kind to them that persecute us, are true and right. But it is hard to do what is true and right. That is what makes us human and in need of grace from God. If you did not feel it was a dillema and if you felt good about having to do such things to survive, then I would worry about your state of mind.
Let's just hope we do not have to be tested in such a way. But just in case we do have to be, stay close to God in prayer and study so you will automatically do as He would have you do.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Mar 12
I listen to those 'little nudges' too.
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