Should Mitt Romney denounce posthumous baptisms?
By ladybugmagic
@ladybugmagic (3978)
United States
March 11, 2012 12:24pm CST
He is running for the highest office in America. He is a renowned and highly respected Mormon.
Should he say something about how he does not condone Mormon Supremacy? They baptize the dead, of different or no faiths. While it is just nothing but a silly ritual, the offense is that they think they have such a right to do so.
Yet, the respect for other religions is not going both ways. Romney, as governor, denied kosher foods to Jewish people in nursing homes. And, we all know how the LDS Church feels about gay people.
Recently, they have baptized Anne Frank, AGAIN, even though they have an agreement with Jewish leaders not to.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/mormons-posthumous-baptism-anne-frank_n_1292102.html
And we all remember Daniel Pearl?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/29/daniel-pearl-baptized-mormons_n_1310838.html
And Ghandi was on the list as well.
A couple satires, of course, were made.
Bill Maher, unbaptizing Mitt Romney's father-in-law, who had strong statements against religion.
http://youtu.be/A41WZBcmnfc
And here is a site that makes a dead Mormon gay for all eternity, no take backs.
http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/
What do you think? Do you think Romney should say how bad of taste and offensive posthumous baptisms are? Why/why not? How can he assure us that his religion won't dictate how he governs?
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@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
11 Mar 12
I don't understand why those politician drag religion in their campaign. I think this is not suitable for a candidates talking about his religion while he is in politics because he maybe bias someday on any religion in that particular state...
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@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
11 Mar 12
Tell this to Rick Santorum. Or Mitt Romney. Or Newt Gingrich.
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@ladybugmagic (3978)
• United States
13 Mar 12
I think the smartest move he has made was leaving his religion out of this.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
11 Mar 12
What are you talking about?
The kosher meals was overturned by the State Legislation. It was an attempt to save the State some money rather than "attack" on religion. I would put it akin to President Obama's request to offer "free" birth control. It is misguided at best. Plus, it is only really beneficial to a small group of the population. Those women who can actually take it and those at the age where it will be beneficial. Everyone else is really left out but will get saddled with some of the bill.
President Obama is not a fan of gay marriage either. Even if Romney becomes President, there is very little he can actually do, since this is a legal and social matter being taken care of by the States. (It is still their choice.)
As far as Anne Frank being baptized, only a very few people care about that. So what? That's the church's decision. Unless he is involved in the actual decision-making process of what the church did, then he is no more responsible than President Obama dictating the speeches of Reverend White.
What? People aren't allowed to disagree with Gay Marriage? What happened to freedom of religion? I am afraid Bill Maher would heartily disagree with you.
Romney never has stricken anyone as Religious type. All he has ever stated was his religion. If he has ever given a sermon, it would be all over the media.
But once again you are lumping the entire Mormon religion into a "everything must believe this because they are such and such." It is ridiculous. If you were to investigate the church he went to, the sermons that his church taught, then maybe you would have a case but it would be equivalent to the same case made against President Obama for the church he attended. That's like saying all Christians believe the exact same thing, or all Catholics are on the same page, or all Muslim groups are identical, or lumping all atheists together. Clearly, you haven't done your research on religious institutions nor do you care to.
So far Romney's position on Religion is that he is a Mormon and has left it at that. If he wanted to press his religion onto other people, he would have done it by now or we would have seen some footage of him giving a sermon or something like that. In fact, he has given absolutely no indication that he is pressing his religious beliefs on anyone.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
12 Mar 12
Why does any of this matter? Has he personally baptized anyone posthumously? Has anyone been harmed or injured through posthumous baptisms? Seriously, who freaking cares whether the Mormon church wants to pretend to baptize people?
"Do you think Romney should say how bad of taste and offensive posthumous baptisms are?"
No, because it's completely irrelevant to his campaign.
"Romney, as governor, denied kosher foods to Jewish people in nursing homes."
Sorry ladybug, that's just a lie. You really need to learn how to research these claims. Even your favorite left-wing blog debunked that lie.
"nursing homes were considering eliminating their kosher kitchens during a period of budget cuts. Their plan was to instead bus in kosher food from other locations. The bill Romney vetoed would have given an additional $600,000 in funding to nursing homes, therefore making it possible for them to continue cooking kosher food on site."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/newt-gingrich-robocall-mitt-romney_n_1244284.html
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/01/30/romney-kosher-food-nursing-homes/
"And, we all know how the LDS Church feels about gay people."
And we all know how Obama's church, and his "Spiritual Mentor" feel about this country and the victims of 9-11.
"How can he assure us that his religion won't dictate how he governs?"
By showing that he has no record of letting his religion dictate how he governs when he was governor of MA.
Seriously ladybug, Romney's an easy guy to bash with REAL issues. Using garbage like this is just weak and isn't going to turn anyone against him.I think your real problem is that the issues you can bash him on are the ones where he's most similar to Obama.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
13 Mar 12
Well if Bill Maher said it then I guess it must be true. A bigot and sexist like Bill Maher might be a hero to you, but I don't look to him for anything resembling truth.
"I think Romney should be held to the same standards people are holding Obama to. And, that would be to denounce fanatics in any faith you are associated with, or are rumoured to be."
Obama's a Christian. I haven't seen him denounce each and every fanatical Christian on the planet. Aside from that there is nothing fanatical about posthumous baptisms. It's something that's done in the church and is part of the religion. I know your own bigotry has you treating just about anything religious as fanatical, but nobody is harmed in any way, shape, or form by this. They aren't digging up bodies and defiling corpses and if you don't believe in it, it has no more significance than when someone says "God Bless you" when you sneeze.
@ladybugmagic (3978)
• United States
13 Mar 12
He has baptized his father-in-law, who referred to religion as "hogwash". It's in one of the links I posted.
I think Romney should be held to the same standards people are holding Obama to. And, that would be to denounce fanatics in any faith you are associated with, or are rumoured to be.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Mar 12
"While it is just nothing but a silly ritual, the offense is that they think they have such a right to do so."
They do have the right to do so, just as much as a christian has the right to pray for a non christian, and I as a Pagan have the right to offer intentions for a non Pagan...just as an atheist has the right to talk with other atheists about hoping religious folks "see the light" and become atheists.
This whole thing is just nonsense. Non-issue. Next.
@ladybugmagic (3978)
• United States
14 Mar 12
When an atheist does an equal and opposite reaction as what a religious person does, how does that all of a sudden become offensive?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
13 Mar 12
Sal Alinsky told them to be offensive and in our faces. Don't know what rule it is; but its a rule for all 'community organizers' who want to force socialism down our throats. Intimidate, lie, call names, it's all there in his rule book.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
11 Mar 12
Well you could always posthumously abort them and that would solve the problem for you.
Seriously, who cares, it's a non-issue.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
13 Mar 12
Yes, actually burning the Bible or the Quran would be a non-issue. The Bible because it's just a book. Faith is bigger than a book. The Quran because a cult is cult and means nothing.
@ladybugmagic (3978)
• United States
13 Mar 12
Do you know why Anne Frank was killed? Because of her religious faith.
So, do Mormons think their faith outweighs the Jewish faith?
Currently, over half of Mississippi thinks Obama is Muslim. He has had to distance himself from that, because of some fanatics. Mitt Romney has dodged his controversial religion very nicely.
I don't much care what faith you are, as long as it does not impose on my life. Or show that you think yours is better than any others.
Would burning the Bible or Quran be a non-issue?
@peavey (16936)
• United States
11 Mar 12
What difference does it make? I seriously doubt that he will be baptizing George Washington on the front lawn of the White House. I don't think he should be required to denounce any part of his religion. No other president has and we didn't seem to care that Obama had a white supremacist sounding pastor or that Nixon was a Quaker or that Jefferson had no particular religious affiliation at all. If we're looking for someone who will present no "offenses" whatsoever in his personal life, I'm afraid we're on the wrong planet. 
