Fact - Opinion - Fiction
By pumpkinjam
@pumpkinjam (8763)
United Kingdom
March 28, 2012 10:51am CST
Most people would know dictionary definition of these three words. But it seems that sometimes people also have their own definitions. I was also thinking about if and how they might overlap. Why, when and how do people get them mixed up?
For clarity, my definitions are: Fact - a thing which is known/has been.proven beyond doubt to be true. An example being that cars have wheels. This is a fact with which can be demonstrated.
Opinion - an idea or thought about a subject which is perceived to be true. Something which may oe may not be true but where two different ideas mu both contain some fact. Eg. Beetroot tastes nice. This is my belief and my perception. It will not be the same as others although it is true to me.
Fiction - sometimes based on truth but not meant to be believed. Something which most people would agree is not true. Eg. I grew wings and flew into space. Obviously that is fiction. Something made up which I do not expect anyone to believe. Ot is an impossible thing.
So, are these three things as clearly defined as all that or not? Are there times when it can be reasonably expected that they overlap? Do you have different ideas about what they mean? Does what you perceive as fact or fiction depend on your opinion?
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@ebmims (89)
• United States
28 Mar 12
My breakdown for differentiating between fact/opinion/fiction or as far as my definitions for them are:
Fact is a verifiable truth, that can be proven with results that are always repeatable or observations that are always true.
Opinion is a relative fact. It is a fact that only necessarily applies to yourself. The difference between a fact and an opinion is that opinions may differ from person to person, where as a fact can never be different from person to person.
Fiction is the point where requirements to be a fact no longer exist. Compared to a fact, fiction is any point between almost being a fact to being as far from a truth as possible. Since I see an opinion as simply a relative fact, the parameters in which fiction exists, an opinion cannot.
In short, facts are universal truths, opinions are truths relative to oneself, and fiction is the presence of any degree of falseness.
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@pumpkinjam (8763)
• United Kingdom
28 Mar 12
Thank you. They are really good definitions. But do you think sometimes other people get mixed up. Eg. They pass on opinions as though they are fact or refuse to accept another opinion because it differs from theirs? Or maybe they take a falsehood to be a truth?
@pumpkinjam (8763)
• United Kingdom
29 Mar 12
That is very true about mass media. They have so much influence and there are people who automatically believe everything they are told (and some who automatically don't) even if they are told two totally contradictory things just because "it said in the news".
@ebmims (89)
• United States
28 Mar 12
Oh for sure, I believe people make those mistakes regularly. While I feel that I have a pretty clear distinction between fact/opinion/fiction, that doesn't mean others see it the same way. Just look at mass media, they tend to blur the lines between fact and opinion all the time :)
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@marty3888 (2355)
• Acme, Michigan
28 Mar 12
No, because fact has nothing to do with my opinion. Like you said, fact is something that everyone knows is true. A car has wheels, fire is hot, ice is cold. Those are facts. The problem is, there are people who think they know so much about something, or simply think they know everything they think of their opinion as fact. A movie wins best picture. That is really someone's opinion because there are thousands of people who would hate sitting though that movie. And fiction can be based on fact, but it really is someone's creativity or imagination that thought up that story.
I agree with your definitions of those three words.
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@pumpkinjam (8763)
• United Kingdom
28 Mar 12
You make some good points there but do you ever feel that some people have trouble defining these things? Or blur them somewhat?
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
30 Mar 12
I think some people blur those term many times and in many occasions. I just don't know if it is intentional or not. To some, facts can be twisted into something that is completely different. For others, their opinion is the fact, in their opinion. In many times, the fact become fiction and the same happens in the reverse. It's different for different people, especially if they are pushing for some agenda or another. Some people remain blind to the fact, express opinion as fact or spins fact into fiction as long as they can keep up with their stories. Sometimes. people can't or won't accept facts due to many reasons only known to them.
@pumpkinjam (8763)
• United Kingdom
30 Mar 12
Thanks jeanne, you also make some good points there. I have known many people who do the things you have said! I think sometimes it is intentional eg. propaganda and other times it is not entirely intentionally eg. if someone has an opinion and can not be persuaded that it is not the only one or that theirs is no more valid than the next because they have mistaken opinion for fact. Or because they understand it to be fact.
@nannacroc (4049)
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28 Mar 12
The responses you've received so far have said about the same as I was going to.
I agree that some people sometimes confuse opinion with fact. Most people will be able to separate fact from fiction. Having said that I have heard of people being nasty to actors because of the characters they have played.
Strongly held opinions combined with a closed mind can be confused with fact. That's just my opinion but I'm open to other points of view.
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@pumpkinjam (8763)
• United Kingdom
29 Mar 12
That, I think, is a very fair and thoughtful opinion. I find it worrying sometimes that, for example, an actor is attacked because someone he played did something bad. It's quite disturbing when people have no concept that the character is pretend and the actor didn't really do anything wrong!
I also agree with what you said about strong opinions and closed minds. That sort of combination can make some situations quite difficult.
Thank you.
@webearn99 (1742)
• India
29 Mar 12
The fact is, in my opinion, that to think there is a clear cut definition of anything is a fiction.
All the things in life or literature come with a lot of riders. Water is defined as a liquid, but it is not! change the temperature and you will get a solid, ice or steam, a gas.
To search and find the clear demarcation would be academic, in practice however, it is the usage, the context and the inflection that contribute to the gist of what a sentence was meant to convey.
I have always believed in the definition of Fact, Opinion and Fiction as follows:
Fact, a version of what happened, subscribed to by the majority, or the version that the high and mighty want to be propagated and imposed.
Opinion, a line of thinking which is inline with one's understanding, biases and intelligence.
Fiction, Facts as expressed under the influence of opinions.
All the three sometimes overlap and sometimes complement each other. Take autobiographies for instance. these are supposedly facts of someone's life, but suitably embellished enough with their opinion of themselves, to resemble a fiction.
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@pumpkinjam (8763)
• United Kingdom
29 Mar 12
Thank you. That is a very interesting answer. Your example of an autobiography is the kind of thing where all 3 things might combine. Your definitions differ slightly from others. I see your thinking there. I like your definition of "Opinion". As for fact and fiction, I agree up to a point but I don't think these are always true.
@BLTLife (337)
• United States
28 Mar 12
People only get mixed up when they say this or that is some kind of fact.
I'll give you an example from what you even just said.
You say it's a fact that all cars have wheel. This is false. Cars CAN have no wheels. They are just in disrepair.
It's when people only look at things from one or two perspectives that things get jumbled up. But we can't be blamed for seeing things from our own perspective. We create our own realities without even realizing it. Then when someone else comes along with their own different reality and the facts they believe to know, there either becomes a conflict of realities or a fusion of the two. Either way. It's good to see things differently then accepting things as facts.
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@pumpkinjam (8763)
• United Kingdom
28 Mar 12
I was going to to say that I hadn't said "all". :-P I think you are right about creating realities, etc. Although I think problems arise when people can not understand that their opinion is just that or when they feel that their perspective is more important. When fact, opinion and fiction get muddled and some people lose the ability to understand or respect other views while expecting both of their own.
@Gautam1002 (730)
• India
21 Jul 12
As you said we may get a crystal clear definition of all the three words you mentioned. But as you have asked for a discussion to start, I will like to add that people tend to build there own definitions from their experiences. I am not commenting on them being correct or faulty. I am just saying views differ.
As far as topic is concerned, I relate fact to origin. It is the point we start from. We do not argue over it. We are always asked to produce proofs for the fact that already exist. Opinions are ones' view. Their angle of viewing a thing. There is no right or wrong in giving birth to an opinion. Opinion is something similar to watching through someone's else eye. Fiction is majorly abstract thinking. It has less relation with the real world. It is the result of ideal thinking like personification of wind.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
Very interesting discussion, some really great comments here. Isn’t language amazing? I’m thinking it depends on context and application of words. If used to describe truth those words take on a certain meaning but if we talk about literary works the meaning changes again.
I think it becomes confusing when we look for exact meanings. Perhaps that pursuit is a futility. I know absolutes make everything not valid. Even facts for example can even be disputed as opinion or at least inconclusive. I like using simple arithmetic for this.
If we suggest that one and one is equal to two then everyone would agree. 1+1=2 and that is a fact but this only works with whole numbers. If we use integers then we can never arrive at a perfect solution unless we round numbers off.
1.000452839 + .989076205 = ?
Both numbers could be considered a one and then equal to two but the answer for integers is never just a two. These numbers have been represented to the ninth decimal place when in fact integers go on forever and therefore no real answer can be found unless you limit the decimal place and round things off.
Just using simple arithmetic as an example, the statement “nothing can be proved to be exact” could be rationalized.
With this definition in mind these words fact, opinion, fiction take on a whole new meaning. - blurred
@honest_efforts100 (1607)
• India
15 Jul 12
Fact, opinion, and fiction are three different words. It all depends on one"s perception and self-belief that makes these words overlap in meaning. When we have an idea we all think it is the truth when for others it is not. The constant battle to knowing the truth sometimes make it a struggle because once we find out, it may hurt.