Change the alms - decrease begging..
By vanny
@vandana7 (100281)
India
March 30, 2012 9:11am CST
Even though this is an inspired discussion, I am sharing a long held belief.
If you want to stop begging..dont give monies. Give food. If you give food, and the beggar feels grateful - you'd be happy. If you give food, beggar is unhappy, you'd still be happy that you've not been taken for ride.
So heads you win, tails you dont lose. Right?
Your call..
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12 responses
@gunagohan (3414)
• India
30 Mar 12
I'd rather say that some NGO's take care of them, like they analyze area by area and pick up them and provide shelter and food for some time and then provide work for them. This will work out.
Giving money or food for a single time won't help the cause.
This will not happen in a single night, it has to be done and within a year or so begging can be decreased.
It all depends upon the individual to do so.
Cheers!!!
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@gunagohan (3414)
• India
3 Apr 12
Hi Vandy... I am doing good...
Well, very tight schedules..
There are some genuine NGO's available in some corners of the nation and they are not funded properly..
Food is the primary thing which every living being is in search of.
1.Food
2.Clothing
3.Shelter.
There are many deaths occurring throughout, if they can keep an eye for this and they can definitely bring down this, but the world is now moving faster with the advancement in technology and people don't care what is happening outside.
It's high time that people give a thought about the fast food they are eating and people who doesn't have basic access for food.
I am not asking everybody to help, the govt should step in and keep a check and provide food for the needy . Food for everyone is important than internet for everyone.
A growing country like ours should keep this in mind in the long run...
Cheers
@vandana7 (100281)
• India
4 Apr 12
I'd rather every tax payer go on a strike the way Anna went or the way gold merchants are going - every time the government has a wrong policy. I'd rather students join in that agitation.
Why in the hell do we need so many cars? Instead of encouraging people to buy cars, we should be focusing on food, clothing, shelter, medicine, and public transportation, right?
Now, we have the same type of congestion like the western countries. Come on, we've had local systems in Mumbai for almost a 100 years. Delhi's metro system is recent, and so is that of Bangalore, and Hyderabad. Couldnt we have preferred this way instead of pouring the monies on flyovers? If a person wants car, and borrows, then he should be charged higher rates of interest. Banks and finance companies are making money. I would tax them more for such businesses to discourage people from selling car every second year and buying a new one. That would save us some forex - both on car as well as petrol. I am really disappointed with quite a few policies of our governments.
@vandana7 (100281)
• India
30 Mar 12
Hi guna, how are you doing? Long time no see. :) How is life?
As to NGO's - I am quite disillusioned. They have a different face in front, and behind. lol
Trust me, nothing is as it is. There are kickbacks, and lot of black money there. Almost all NGOs are run by somebody with politial clout. You know what I mean. And I heard some supply girls.. so ..no..not interested in it that way. No institutionalizing.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
31 Mar 12
Hello Vandana ji,
Whether the beggars like or not, giving food for the hungry person is considered as the most powerful donation. You know the reason, human beings are greedy all the time, if we give money they need more, if we give any other objects then also they feel to get more but in case of giving food to a hungry person, he/she can eat still the stomach is full. Once the stomach become full at a time, nobody can eat or wish more food, am I right? So the person is highly satisfied and may bless the contributor. (I have read this description in a temple, Sree Padmanabha Swami Temple, in the capital of Kerala, where I visited in my vacation last year. They are offering food on every day at lunch time in the name of ‘anna danam’ (offering food). On the wall they have written the greatness of offering food for the hungry).
In India the beggars are not poor, it is a fact. (thesids has pointed out the same rightly). They are begging for money only. I will tell you once incident for proving this.
In 2002, we were on the way to Agra to visit Tajmahal, my in-laws were also with us. We prepared ‘Uppma’ for our breakfast. As we left home so early (before 6 am) we had packed breakfast to eat on the way. In Agra railway station an elderly lady approached us and show her hand to give something. My MIL told me to give one packet of breakfast which meant for us. I quickly gave one packet to her. My hubby was talking to a taxi person for our travel from railway station to Agra and other places. So we stayed sometime in the station. We seen the lady who taken the food packet from us, just throw the packet of food in the railway track. Just imagine we had taken the food for us only and we shared one of the packets from that. I can’t express what I felt on seeing the same.
Now what do you say dear.
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@vandana7 (100281)
• India
31 Mar 12
Sreekala..yes..many of them are not sincere beggars. They beg for easy life. Not something we should be encouraging. If they get the food, they must eat. Otherwise starve. No monies. Certainly no monies for beggars.
And you need not feel bad. Our acts are judged as per the moment we act. So if my intentions were bad when I do something, and it subsequently turns out to be good, I dont get credit. Likewise, if my intention was to give food to the person, and fill her belly, then even if she throws it away, my credit does not get erased. So intention is crucial. :) Dont worry. At least you learnt whether you should pity or not, and how much. :)
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@vandana7 (100281)
• India
30 Mar 12
No bhanusb, food is perishable. If the beggar does not need feed there is no way he or she is gonna store. So standing at crossroads would no longer make sense. Money can be saved.. anything that can be saved should not be given, including fruits like apple.
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@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
30 Mar 12
i also agree. when we give money to beggars, we encourage their trade. they are only more convinced that they can go on with their lives as it is.
people probably give money because they consider it a form of help. but if there's anything we should teach to those who beg, it's that money is earned and worked for. there are many ways to earn, and we all ought to respect ourselves and our capabilities by using them to their fullest and making the best out of our lives through them.
if you give to a beggar, you disregard the sanctity of your effort to earn that money, and you slowly kill the better individual that the beggar could be.
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@chirplady (4)
• United States
31 Mar 12
I agree. When I was on a trip a man asked my son for money when we were walking down the street. He was a US veteran and felt we "owed" it to him. I had some left over pizza and I offered it to him. He was angry I didn't give him money. I handed him the box and said, "Well at least you will have something to eat" He wasn't happy and you are right, I felt happy I wasn't taken for a ride.
I have "lent" people money and seldom do I get paid back. My solution is to give someone asking for me to lend them money, a bag of my extras from my pantry. They can save on their food bill a little and I helped out as best I can. This way I don't get upset when they break their promises.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
31 Mar 12
I used the "sad" emoticon, Vandi...because I realistically cannot give a definitive answer! I find "begging" quite different in different cultures..and my experience may be tarnished!
For several years, I made a trek, and living on the Beach on the Baja Peninsula (Baja California) which is actually in Mexico! The children were "bussed" daily to major tourist centres...IF THEY CAME HOME, to their beach huts (where I was living) WITHOUT MONEY--they were beaten...some so badly they DID NOT come home for days! FOOD was not currency...and this was a business, exploiting children!
I learned--that culture...BEATS the beggars that are always children! What to do!
In Canada, so far...we do NOT have many children begging! I only give food!
@annierose (21583)
• Philippines
1 Apr 12
I agree with you. I prefer to give food than money to the beggars. With it, I will be confident that they will not use it to any other bad things like gambling. Some street children are even a member of a gang or syndicate and they are just using those children for their selfish intention.
@myfb2009 (8296)
• Malaysia
2 Apr 12
Vanda, indeed your ideas is right. In fact, recently i came across a young boy begging for money while i am shopping in the wet market area. I do felt pity for him and wanted to give money. But on second thought, i quickly changed my mind and gave him a bottle of drink, which i just bought from the nearby shop. He does felt sad and first but at last he thanked me and left. I do feel that giving food and drink to those who are begging is the best way.
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
2 Apr 12
I like it. Most of the people begging on the street in Indonesia do not want to accept foods, they want only money. So, I do not give anything to them, just feeling sad when looking at those little children of 3 - 7 are forced to beg on the street... it's like a mafia!
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
1 Apr 12
HI aunty!!!
Nice idea.... What we always do is giving them money and that is why they take advantage and beg for more $$$..Here we used to give money instead of food but I don't think that everyone of them are really need money because they are not capable to work.It is almost like a job but unofficial job/career. To give food is good and just imagine if we give food to a beggar who already have drinks and foods with them in a night market? I am not sure they will feel grateful since food is not their target.
@vandana7 (100281)
• India
1 Apr 12
If food is not their target, they will get serious about working and making labor cheaper, effectively bringing down costs everywhere. Labor costs have contributed a lot to cost of living. Can you get electrician or plumber in time? If they come dont they collect a lot of money? Do they get labor cheap? So when we take into account those costs, we obviously expect higher pay hikes, and as a consequence, our employers price their goods higher. Government looks at those higher prices and taxes accordingly. All because there are almost 20 to 30 percent of people who do not work at all.