The rich pay less for power in our country..

@vandana7 (100249)
India
April 7, 2012 11:53pm CST
Ok..here is the chart that is printed on the reverse of my electricity bill Domestic consumers "0-50 units - 1.45 per unit 51 to 100 - 2.80 per unit (note it is almost double) 101 to 200 - 3.05 per unit (marginal increase which the middle class should be happy about) 201 to 300 - 4.75 per unit (hike is more than fifty percent! ok..so upper middle class is being hit) 300 to 500 - 6.00 per unit (note that the hike is not even fifty percent) And 500 units and above - a single slab of 6.25 per unit (licensed to use chandeliers on a daily basis, I must say and have more than four air conditioners and refrigerators) Who comes in that category? a. Politicians. b. Gangsters c. Rich businessmen Why o why are are we the middle class and lower class folks paying for those comforts ot rich? Any idea?
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9 responses
@jkct02 (2874)
• Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia
8 Apr 12
So in order to be uniformed, let's say 50%, it would be: 0- 50 1.45 51-100 2.90 101-200 5.80 201-300 11.60 301-500 23.20 501- 46.40 It is just impossible. Perhaps they could adjust the rate a bit up and down but there is no way that it could be standardized in percentage terms. I feel that the logic of the pricing is based on 2.80-3.05 as the actual chargeable rates which the majority of normal customers would consume with normal usage. The lowest rate is a subsidy for the low usage customers who may be mostly poor families. The rates from 4.75-6.00 are for commercial customers. Note that all customers do enjoy the subsidy rate of 1.45 for the initial 50 units usage.
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• India
8 Apr 12
Hmm... So that means if I consume 300 units my bill will be calculated as 1.45 + 50 * 2.80 + 100 * 3.05 + 100 * 4.75 ?
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
8 Apr 12
@hora ... and there crashes their application on those handheld POS billing Mac
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@vandana7 (100249)
• India
8 Apr 12
Oh no....not that way u only looked at the rates..and units also need to be reviewed. 0-50 1.45 51 to 100 - that is double so it is fine.. 101 to 200 has 100 units in between and not 50 units as is the case previously so on.. so if 0-50 is 1.45 and 51 to 100 is 2.90 then 101 to 150 is 5.80 151 to 200 is 11.60 201 to 250 is 23.20 250 to 300 is 46.40 and so on. :) Perhaps you missed that.
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@vijayanths (7877)
• India
8 Apr 12
Hi, Vandy, the rich should become richer and the poor become poorer. The middle class should die as middle class-this is the Indian democracy... BTW I thought you don't belong to middle and lower... do you really?
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• India
9 Apr 12
I am also still carrying that hope vandy. You can become an Ambani within 5 years if you jump into politics. You already have all the talents to become a successful politician, I mean Indian politician. Start a new party and let me join it so that I can become a junior Ambani, hehe...
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
9 Apr 12
Now..why does that seem so insulting.. Hey..I cant be a politician..I would get so annoyed at other's adamance to do things wrong that I might end up shooting down all the members in the Parliament..
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
8 Apr 12
Come on.. If Ambani can get rich in India within a span of 50 odd years then there is hope for all of us..lol I do belong to middle class but what annoyed me is When it came to lower class they were happy doubling with every 50 units when it came to middle class they were increasing at the rate of 50 percent for the next 100 units, but when it came to the rich, the rate of increase in the last two slabs is insignificant. If it were rationalized to see that the rich pay reasonably for their consumption, then we the middle class stand to gain, right?
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@mensab (4200)
• Philippines
8 Apr 12
i do not see it that way. what is clear to me is that big consumers pay the highest per unit in consumption. it is not about the differences between categories. the more one consumes, the higher one pays. there is no subsidy for the big consumers, but there is a subsidy for small consumers.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
8 Apr 12
I am merely asking that the ratio of increase when uniform in pay scales should be uniform in the electricity bills as well. So if there is jump of 50 percent between one slab and another, it should be that 50 percent throughout!
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
8 Apr 12
Hi Vandana My late grandfather who was a visionary much ahead of his times, used to say - The Middle Class is the one which will have to suffer and the misery of this class is that it can neither go to the top nor to the bottom. It has always been this way in Independent India. And I guess, it is economics and politics too. And unfortunately there is no respite as long as we do keep voting to people who are "democratic" and think only about their welfare. On the lighter sides though - the government wants most of Indians to become either Politicians, or Gangsters or even Rich Businessmen - so that India gets known as a Developed nation
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
8 Apr 12
Actually I agree with you.. the best professions to be pursued are those of Politicians, Gangsters, and rich businessment. Rest of the education is crapp. I was just thinking..if we feel a policy is dreadfully wrong, we organize cricket matches and take a month off. With so many people not working and not doing any picketing or whatever chances are goverment will come to its senses because revenues would stop coming in. Cricket is one thing that unites us Indians irrespective of caste, creed, state, language, and religion, isn't it? :)
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
8 Apr 12
Cricket... I found in one of those good movies, which said - In India Cricket is a Religion. They did the IPL and to an extent the ICL too with a similar thought... people stay busy with cricket and we get more time to plan and implement scams though and they almost succeeded but somewhere things went awry and some lalits were sacked and devs were said NO by the BCCI
• India
8 Apr 12
Vandanaji We the middle class are the worst sufferers, we can neither become politicians, gangsters, and we are not that rich, here in orissa they declared hike but it was withdrawn, don't know why, in my house they replaced the made in Germany meters fitted in 1957; with Chinese meters supplied by them, it runs like cheeta; i challanged them, switched off all appliances except 10 one hundred watt bulbs, after 2 hours it should consume 2 kilowatt hours; but the meter showed 4.5 units, this was done in presense of the Je, but he says, meter is ok!!!!!!
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@vandana7 (100249)
• India
8 Apr 12
Yeah, why do they do that! If they charge the rich the reasonable rates, they wouldnt have to cheat like that!!! And Chinese meters.. :( Tell me about them. :( We have water supply in our home and it passes through one of those meters. It virutally blocks the water coming in. My tenants have cut the pipeline before the meter, and are collecting water from there..lol What to do..when we ask them to attend to those meters, they are not doing it.
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@dilrajj57 (1757)
• Pakistan
12 Apr 12
i dont know what country power you talking, in our country her rich pay less power too, and here the from 1 to 100 - about 4 rupees and 100 to 200 about 7.50 per unit.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
13 Apr 12
Well you are talking. :) I am from India, Andhra Pradesh. Looks like you are an Indian. :) If I had to make people decrease their power consumption, I would increase the power tarriffs upwards so that people would be inclined to consume less, right? For example in your state's case It would have been 1-100 4 rupees 101 to 200 - 10 rupees 201 to 300 - 15 rupees and so on.. The present system is clearly discriminatory because not only do the rich earn more, they also get power at a cheaper rate than the rest! Definitely not conducive to energy saving.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
13 Apr 12
Sorry the third one should've read as 201-200 as 25 and not as 15. :)
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
10 Apr 12
Most electric bills are figured on the cost to produce the power. If your local plant can produce enough power for the average user to use 350 units and if they exceed that rate then they (the Power Co) has to go out and find power on the open market it gets more expensive. This works until you start to buy in a larger volume and you can get a cheaper rate thus your cost do not increase as much. In my community in the US we have a local plant. It can produce the power needed for the community by using two gas fired generators. IF it needs more power it can buy it on the open market but it cost a lot more. Once they hit a certain point in power use it is more economical to fire up the third generator which is run by oil, more expensive than gas but cheaper than buying it on the open market. When do they use the third generator is when demand is going to be high for an extended period of time. The power is not priced based on income but on usage which you can control to some extent.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
10 Apr 12
Hi :) That is quite informative I must say. :) I was not suggesting that it is based on income. What I was suggesting is that those who use more are not being penalized as much as those who are using it less. Effectively, there is more incentive for the lower economic class people to save power, and none for those in higher income bracket.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
10 Apr 12
please read my response under jkct's response.
@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
8 Apr 12
Now there had to be some upper limit after which a single slab is applied. They can't go on and on!! The class structure starts from lower one, and exists up to upper middle class only. And as you see they are 'hit'. So as long as we limit our frame there is no scope for complain. Now, for those above upper middle class, they are not children and don't have to stick to the class. They have the power and the influence - to lobby, to threaten and coolest of all, to make rules for themselves and us! If you already have a home, you don't need to purchase one. Similarly, if you already have 'the power', why would you pay for it?
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
8 Apr 12
Yeah sure.. See the slabs.. 0-50 and 50 to 100 pathetic.. almost doubling the rates with just 50 units..but similar penalties are not applicable to people in 300+ categories.. Discriminatory dont you think?
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@vandana7 (100249)
• India
8 Apr 12
No hora..I aint asking you to pay more..I am only asking for overall conservativeness. The rich get to be extravagant and careless once they reach a slab level because anyway they are not getting into another slab. Please read the response above..and breaking down into smaller slabs..0-50 - 51-100, 101-150 may prove to be incentive to save power because nobody would like to move into the next slab for a marginal increase in consumption.
• India
22 Jul 12
In every economy the rich seem to thrive more than the poor and everything seems to be cheaper for the rich than the rest of the people. I however think that it has got something to do with economies of scale where you get a major discount when you spend more. In my country we call it the wholesale price.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
30 Jul 12
I often think that rich tend to invest at the right time so they are rarely burnt. They also spread their investments so that they are not burnt badly.