Could you Ever forgive them?
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
United States
April 13, 2012 1:16pm CST
If a family member called you a bad name Or thought you had a bad reputation and let Everyone know it would you Ever forgive them? I know I wouldn't. And call it the teen in me but not only wouldn't I forgive them, I would act the way they deemed me as. so for them Anf Only them my bad rep would be justified. If they can't be bothered to learn the truth , why should I ever enlighten them? Your thoughts.
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@saiKO92 (392)
• Malaysia
13 Apr 12
Hello there.
Bad or good they are still your blood-relative and to them you will seek help in dire time. Whatever they say about you, it is still their perception and you can change that. Why they have that perspective? Maybe it is because you aren't trying to hard enough to make them notice your true self. Maybe they aren't trying to know you better before making any perception. Maybe you aren't going through the life path they thought you would and made them make that assumption.
Whatever the cause is, you can still change that! And you need to change that. You can't just barely do like they perceive you. Cause that will make your reputation worsen. Why? Because if you justified their perception, they may spread their perception of you to others such as your other relatives and the cycle will continue on and on.
If you (at least try to) change their perspective, they will surely change their perception towards you and try harder to know you better. In the long run, you won't ever have to face the same problem. So yeah, I will forgive my family members for their wrong perception towards me cause people can't read my and people can't satisfied all.
Best regards. :)
Happy myLotting !
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@saiKO92 (392)
• Malaysia
14 Apr 12
I think technically they already lose you as a member of the family since they ignored your presence. But, you can't say that they really don't want you to be in the family just because they tell lies about you. Maybe they are telling lies cause they want more attention from you. Cause as we all know, people can't read others mind and heart.
Thus, you need to have some heart-to-heart talk with them. Try to persuade them to tell you the meaning of their behaviours and actions. If you can't persuade them once, try again. Try until you get the truth behind all that happen.
Happy myLotting!
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
18 Apr 12
There is no problem with my family. I was talking about what I would do. and for me I would be happier Not being part of their gang. And I was. They had their chance to be nice And truthful. Once you are mean to me, I assume you will always be mean to me and I will not remain in your presence, unless I am getting my enemies closer. I mean I have the perfect revenge planned.
@saiKO92 (392)
• Malaysia
16 Apr 12
Surely, you do believe that humans have many types of behaviours? Some people may not be able to show what they feel using the correct and suitable ways. If they want you to become part of their gang, do so but maintain your true self. That way, bit by bit they will acknowledge the real you.
Trying to get the truth standing isn't a waste a time. When the truth prevail, you'll have much more prosper live. Believe me, I once had gone through something similar to you. At least, if you give them and yourself to get to know each other better you'll feel a little bit relieve as you've done your part in giving second chance.
For your note, I'm still giving my family members second chances especially to my mother. Since the first day I started to give them second chances, I've been living my life much happier even though there are some sad memories. But, that is the enrichment of life.
Hope you can get through your problems with your family peacefully. ;)
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
20 Apr 12
I'm also vindictive. If a relative called me a bad name, then I think I would be that to them too. And I wouldn't forgive them.
But if it was my close family. Like my kids, then I would never stay mad at them. As I am stuck with them, whatever my reputation is, they would also be stuck with me. For better or worse.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
20 Apr 12
Come on Daddy! You brought your kids up better! They would Never call you names. There is a mutual respect .
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
13 Apr 12
I went through this with my older sister......she called me a loser...this is when my third book came out?????? Anyway I found that the biggest problem with her was that she hated herself....I blasted her after waiting 50 years to finally do so....and now things are good between us....she is on depression meds...mostly because her life is in the sh*tter due to her constant money problems. Did I forgive her..absolutely....
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
You are nicer than I. Once blasted, I would simply disappear. And worse I would wish her ill, something like what she is going through.
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@Rick1950 (1576)
• Lima, Peru
14 Apr 12
I'd forgive them if they ask for apologies. On the other hand, if they keep the offense, I'd try to defend me and of course I'd avoid any contact with them. I think, any will find in life people who could offend us and we must deal the best way with that.
@itsmamanen (423)
• Philippines
14 Apr 12
humbly speaking, i am gifted with good looks. so most people would turn their eyes on me whenever i walk passed them. i have lots of girl cousin. some of them are good looking too. i can feel that one of them doesn't really like me. most of the time they wouldn't upload photos on if i'm not it. i kept quiet about it for years, until one time i couldn't take it anymore, i told her i know she doesn't like me. she was shocked. she looked really guilty. but i'm over it now. it's her lose. she gets out-of-place everytime theirs a family gatherings
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
I a glad you comforted her! It is sad thatshe can't fit in , Oh well. It is her lost!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Apr 12
I have relatives like that. And I grew up listening to that and being mad at my mom too for taking out her frustrations on me.And all I did was be a normal teenager. Now I find that the kids of my relatives are really out creating a 'reputation'. I don't point a finger or gossip about them. I'm sure my relatives are embarrassed but they haven't come straight out and apologized to me or my mom for all that they said or did years ago. In 2 instances, I've even helped them with their problems and they showed their appreciation by returning it in kind.
I don't hold a grudge against them but sometimes the hurt returns....but it passes off soon enough. Looks like I haven't forgotten but I have forgiven.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Apr 12
Honestly, I would sit back and watch too. But I felt sorry for them when things happened right in front of me and I did whatever I could to help. Another story that it backfired on me.It hurt at first but then it's over a year now and I've moved on. But I have kept a distance from these relatives without appearing to do so. I know they know it but the others(the rest of the family) haven't realized.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
28 Apr 12
You are better than I. I wouldn't help someone who hurt me unless it was part of perfect revenge part. Worse , if their bad Karma came to them, I would just sit back and watch.
@primeaque86 (8108)
• Philippines
14 Apr 12
A family member in the first place would not, I think, make you bad in the public, as much as possible, they would protect you from that situation, but how come they did so? That's a question in my mind now... and upon thinking about it for the second time, I guess we have two choices, if I were in your shoes, I would forgive them if there was a misunderstanding between me and one of my family members, sometimes that will build a gap and drop the protection we should have in favor of each other. Sometimes they were also brainwashed by some ill-minded folks, if such situation happened in the presence of those factors, I should learn to accept that it's not their free will, and they were only driven by something that controlled them. It's forgivable...
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
Hi stranger!It has been way too long! You are a better person than I. I would take that they said this to me as proof they will Never truly support me so I would just leave the family.If I can't trust them , then why stay?
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
Send B my love. And thanks for respecting my point of view. I am very happy these days. I hope you are too.
@primeaque86 (8108)
• Philippines
14 Apr 12
Yes, it's been too long I guess, I just got my way to surprise my B as well, she will know later on that I visit here again for a long time, anyway, you are entitled to that and I wont argue with you, and you are wrong telling me that I am a better person than you, of course, all of us are equal, I have both better and bitter sides as well, I wont judge you too because I dont want to be judge by others as well, you know, as long as you are happy my friend, just be with that person you know too well, that is you and your principles, hold on tight...
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
16 Apr 12
When my husband and I became engaged, the game was on where my parents were concerned.
While we were dating, they had already expressed their concerns to us directly regarding the relationship, but we respectfully declined their advice. They didn't handle it well. We couldn't even "agree to disagree," but I thought we left things on good terms with them. Instead of dropping it, they decided to take things into their own hands (behind my back, of course).
They spread rumors that my fiance abused me (emotionally and even physically) and said that's why I was so thin, and they lied that I was sick all the time. I didn't know these things were being said until I had friends and acquaintances coming to me asking if I was ok and advising me against marrying this guy. The thing that kills me is that things weren't going their way, so they spread lies about my man and me to get everyone on their side. That's very childish! Of course these people didn't want us to get married because of this horrible monster my parents had made my fiance out to be!
What my parents did was absolute insanity, but we got married anyway. My parents didn't attend our wedding. That was a relief at the time, but I know they regret it now. I'm sad they couldn't be there, but it was for the best. If they had that mentality going into it, that the marriage was a complete joke, then I didn't want them there anyway.
We did forgive my parents. People tell me all the time that what they did was inexcusable, and I get it. We chose to forgive them anyway. Not because they asked us to forgive them or because they deserve it, but because that's what we wanted to do. They probably don't deserve to have communication with us anymore, and I know a lot of people would've cut them off, but that's not how we chose to deal with it.
The rumors my parents started weren't justified, but people found out the truth anyway. Some people came to us directly for answers, and they got the truth. Others found out that my hubby wasn't the man they'd made him out to be just by observation. It's still hard for me, to be honest. I can handle what my parents did to me because I can stand up for myself, but what they did to him and what he had to deal with makes me crazy to think about all over again. The pain is still there, but I chose to forgive them anyway. The sad part is that I don't know if they'll ever apologize. Probably not in this lifetime...
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
16 Apr 12
The only reason I'm still breathing is my guy. The thought of the hurt I would cause if I took my life is what keeps me from killing myself.
You are so much better than I. I have no patience for liars and you parents told so many lies. I could Never forgive that.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
19 Apr 12
Ask yourself this. Can you see them and talk Without thinking about all the drama they tried to cause? If so, then you have forgiven them. Me? I have never forgiven a person who hasn't apologized first. They say they are sorry and I forget about the ill will I was about to rain down on them and we move on.Without an apology , there is no reason for me forgive. They are not sorry and I won't let them hurt me ever again.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
20 Apr 12
You know, I've never heard it put like that, but that's a great test! Yes, I can get together with my parents without seeing everything they've done all over again. I can't read their thoughts now to know if there are regrets, but none of that matters. I've done what I think is right. I still agree with you, though, that without an apology, they shouldn't expect forgiveness. I just chose to do so anyway. I'm glad you'll still forgive if someone asks rather than writing them off anyway. I think as long as it's a true and genuine apology, it should be accepted.
Last Saturday night, we had my cousin and his wife over to our house. It had been ages since we last saw them, so it was nice to catch up. (They attended our wedding and were behind us the entire time, so they knew the whole situation.) My cousin's wife brought up the issue of our wedding and asked how we were doing. I told her we'd forgiven them, but that - of course - things weren't as they'd been before. She told me what she said doesn't leave the house (lol), but my mom had talked to her about it fairly recently. My mom didn't attend our wedding because my dad wasn't going to, and she was being a supportive wife by doing the same. According to what I was told, though, she seemed sad that she didn't go. I think if she really wanted to be at our wedding, she would've found a way.
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@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
14 Apr 12
I God forgives, why can't you? What is important i think is the fact that you know they have issues on their behavior and being realized that, then an option would be to make them reflect on themselves of what they are doing is wrong. The issue here is having the truth on your side and making them aware of it.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
You answered your own question. I'm not G-d.I know my truth and I refuse to make a so called loved one see how wrong they are. I will just walk away.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
16 Apr 12
My G-d said "Vengeance is mine." Well at times I borrow it but I do give it back. so I have G-d in my life . He just isn't all goodness and light.
@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
15 Apr 12
Yeah, i know as we were made in the image of GOD. Forgiveness is one vital part of letting go of your anger towards anyone and then feel the true essence of what life is all about. Surely, making a difference especially with family and friends really would help you realize how God makes a difference in our lives.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
14 Apr 12
Hi behen
I agree that this is harsh but it depends on who is telling this. If my immediate family, I have to get things clarified and I have to make the efforts to set things right. If I fail then, the question of leaving or continuing comes. Not before I have given it my effort.
The blood relation is always important and Indians are strongly attached with these blood relatives. And again being the eldest in the family, there are many responsibilities that you always have to shoulder... like it or not but you have to live up to them... (That is the normal thought) - For me, I will but again... I have to remain un-hurt, If there is something which is hurting, it is My responsibility to get the airs cleared or at least try once to get them cleared - if I fail... then it depends for how long I am not forgiving.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
Hi Bhai!
You mean we have younger siblings? You are so understanding and king hearted I am not surprised about your reaction. Me? I'm not That nice. See I was teased at school and all those people I wish them ill to this day. I walked away and Never saw they as human Or living!I would do the same thing to a loved one. If they have that little respect for me, then they don't deserve to have me in their family.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
15 Apr 12
Healthy and balanced I have never been. what I did have is the ability to keep grudges and wish ill. And to make good friends and play music. By my junior year. All the a$4holes were in other classes. I guess I was smarter than they? And I had some great friends and I was in the orchestra!
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
14 Apr 12
Teased at school! I too wasnt behind in this. I was all bony and tall. Like a skeleton and no one liked me as I was a better student who would always stay away from them.
The only ones who liked me were a couple of juniors and a good number of my teachers. I did feel bad those days but as I grew I realized that the co-students are just a small part of my life... and again, no one elses actions can dictate me anytime on what and how to go about things... I think, your bhai always had some ego and a little positive healthy brain which did help him stay more balanced...
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
13 Apr 12
It depends on the person (no matter if it's family or not) if I would forgive.
To me it's not important how others think about me but how I think about myself. I have to live with me with not with my family.
Nobody can give you a bad reputation you can only do that by yourself if you feel it that way.
I also don't think it matters if you forgive your family or anyone else. It won't make you feel better if you say you do so but are or feel angry. That angryness will eat you. So the only thing you can do is give it a place, go on with your life, believe in yourself and delete negative people out of your life.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
I don't get mad, I get even. They are the ones who lose out. They will Never know the real me! Thankfully this is just a question I came up with watching a mother- daughter relationship gone bad.
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@ShyBear88 (59347)
• Sterling, Virginia
13 Apr 12
I've had a family member call me a B before. I don't take it to hard when they say bad names to me because most of the time its out of anger and they blowing something up more then should. I wouldn't act that way just to show them that I am what they are talking about. To me that is childish and I don't get down to that level of there games when they are acting like a child or saying names. I just ignore them and don't talk to them or see them. Which is easy for me since we all live so far away.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Apr 12
It is better for them they live far away.That I way I can disown them! In fact that is what I would do too. If we Had to be in the same room, I would be Ms. B1tch to them. and all other times they are out of my family. period.
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@krizzy (237)
• Philippines
13 Apr 12
It's sad when your family member thought like that about you. They are family, they should be the one supporting you and care more about you. Well sometimes that is life. If that happens to me I will get really mad and sad. But i can still forgive them, I know it will take long to forgive them because it's not easy. I will just pray to God and give me a forgiving heart. sarahruthbeth22 just rely on God and everything will be fine:)
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Apr 12
I have a hard time getting past it when anyone that is close to me does something to hurt me. Family even more. I guess I have a somewhat unrealistic vision of the way that people should treat people and if they don't, I space myself far far away.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
26 Apr 12
I'm the same way. If I am not going to be respected, I stay far away!
@shylade (3132)
• Philippines
14 Apr 12
it is very hard when your family member did something bad to you. of all the people, why they will do that to you right?
if i were the same me before (not a mother i mean), i will definitely got fire up and deal with them the way they do it with me. but being a mother now, i gain so much patient. i will rather do what is good for us rather than think of what other people will say. i am living here for myseld, my husband, and for my son, not for them. they can say whatever they want and for as long as i know the truth and i am not stepping on another person's foot, i know i will be fine. grudge will not help me in any way so i just let it go and leave them to God.
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