Intervention to make things work

@dorannmwin (36392)
United States
April 13, 2012 2:27pm CST
First off, I have to say that I love my husband and no matter what does happen with the situation that we have right now, I will never hate him and I will never talk badly about him in front of our two children. Okay, I've mentioned that he has developed a chemical dependence to narcotic pain killers and it has gotten progressively worse. In just three weeks he has been through several hundred dollars that can only be accounted for as blowing money for a high. Well, things came to a head last night and I staged my own intervention. I told him that I don't want him to use the debit card anymore, I don't want him depositing his paycheck into the checking account and I don't want him to take any more pills. Now I do understand that he will be ill for a time going cold turkey off of the pills, but we simply cannot afford for him to continue this habit (he's been paid twice this month and I've not been able to pay any bills because he money has all gone to pills). I know it sounds harsh, but I honestly believe that the only way that things will work out for us is if he stops. So, I wonder if you've ever staged an intervention? If you have was it successful? Will you please keep our family in your thoughts and prayers during this very trying time in our lives.
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@allknowing (136424)
• India
14 Apr 12
I suggest that the intervention should be from a counselling centre and earlier you resort to it the better it will be. Family intervention normally yields no results.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
I think that for us it is really going to take a combination of counseling and family intervention because there is nothing that counseling can do that will stop me from being an enabler to a certain extent. That was a decision that I had to make for myself and that is why I am where I am right now.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Apr 12
I know that his health insurance does provide for some counselling sessions in the course of the year and though I don't always think that counselling is the answer, I do think that this is one of the times that we have to take advantage of that opportunity.
@allknowing (136424)
• India
14 Apr 12
You did mention in your topic that you are no where near a solution and that is quite normal as family is often taken for granted and also it depends on the kind of approach that you have adopted. Anyway a third party counselling can aid your own effort and I wish you the best in your effort dorann....
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
13 Apr 12
you are in my prayers and i know how bad this must be having gone through it myself but i dont think its good to try and go it alone with him or for him. hes been through a lot and he needs more help then cold turkey. he may need some rehab that will give him a small amount of meds to help him over come this addiction. in short he needs professionals in this area. i know i had to be very careful about pain meds having seen my mom go through the same thing. i only took small amounts when i was desperate. but like i said i was forwarned. try and get rehab help
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
I am not opposed to him getting some rehab help if that is what it is going to take. However, I know that at this moment the biggest thing that I need to do is stop the financial bleeding that is tearing me apart. I've worked hard to have the things that I have in life and for that reason, I am not willing to give it up for an addiction.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Apr 12
I sometimes have a lot of doubt in my own strength. However, I know that this is something that we have to do if we are going to be able to continue to provide for our children.
@Nadinest1 (2016)
• Canada
14 Apr 12
I am passing along strength to you and your husband. You are a very brave woman to by putting this on the internet, but this is the place to get support. Good luck with everything.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
On the one hand I feel like I am being strong by putting it out on the internet. However, on the other hand I think that it is a sign of weakness from me because no one on here knows me from Adam so I do at least have some shadow of being anonymous. I very much appreciate the strength that you are passing on to us.
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@marguicha (223010)
• Chile
13 Apr 12
Couldn´t you talk to his doctor, so that he helps, if he can? Pain can be excruciating and if there is a way to forget it for one moment, many people will take anything. The problem is developing a dependency, specially if there´s no money to pay for it. My heart goes to you, your family and your Tom. I hope all this comes out the best way.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
I don't want him to suffer from pain. I'm not heartless like that because I know how pain can be, even though those things that I've been through are different than the ones that he has been through. With that said, I am willing to help him control his pain medications to limit him to just what the doctor has prescribed. But, I also know that won't stop the problem when he is able to get money and buy extras off of the street.
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@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
14 Apr 12
An abrupt stoppage of such meds would cause more problems, and i think a slow wean should be done hopefully as advised by a pain specialist. The withdrawal process sometimes creates unexpected irritating behavior or illnesses, thus consultation with a physician is really needed. Hope he gets through this without much problem.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
You see, I've been telling him to call his doctor and tell them that he has a problem. But, he won't do it. So, the perspective that I am working on from at this point in time is the fact that his thinking of his high instead of thinking about the family is not only hurting him, it is hurting our two children and myself as well. I will help him to wean off of the medications as he is prescribed at this point in time. However, I will have absolutely no part in his seeking illegal pain pills off the street.
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
13 Apr 12
I understand what you are saying but I don't think this will work. Your husband is using the pills for some reason and as long as that reason exist he has to take them. If not you have to think out of a substitute first, otherwise it will only get worse.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
You know, when it comes to the prescription that he is given by the doctor, I really do think that I might have gone overboard and I won't take that away from him because he was given them for a reason. However, I don't think that he needs to continue taking to excess to where it is hurting our family both emotionally and financially.
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
17 Apr 12
I hope things work out for you. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I would say it will be very difficult for him to do without help from the outside.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
19 Apr 12
I know that it is going to be difficult and I have recommended that he get an appointment with his doctor regarding the dependence on the pain medication. But even that help is not enough to help with the financial burden that he has put on us.
• United States
2 May 12
I'm sorry you are going thru this. I just read your update and though I'd look here to see what was going on. Sadly many people become addicted to the pain pills especially the elderly. I am glad you are working with him to wean him off and are regulating finances more closely. I've had to take away the check card too, but not for a situation as serious as yours. My hubby wouldn't check with me what was in the acct to spend and just buy his cigs and whatever and not realize what I had left did not ask what I had left and I didn't need to bounce checks because of this practice either.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
4 May 12
For me, it is the finances that are the most difficult because of the fact that I'm always afraid of not being able to pay the bills. I really think that it has a lot to do with the economy right now and seeing so many people suffering and I don't want to be a statistic. However, I also really miss having the person in my life that I got married to eight years ago.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Apr 12
hi dorannmwin oh wow thats a tough one too. good for you as i think thats probably the only way he was going to stop. Its easy to get addicted to a lot of narcotic pain pills, and harder to break the addiction too. I am a nut when it comes to taking something for pain as when I worked as a nurses aide one of the most respected nurses I caught stealing pain pills one night. I almost could say I loved her for the kind intelligent person she was. but still I knew I had to tell the head nurse who had been stealing painpills.She was reprimanded but given a chance to go to rehab and break the hab it. she got hooked when she had had surgery and was given these narcotic pain pills for her pain. Later she came to me and actually thanked me for turning her ins. We did hot have to send her to rehab and then take her back to work as most simply fire the nurse but we all knew she re ally was a fine person.I will send my prayers for your husband to get off the pill addiction and get back to his normal self again. You did right as far as I can see and as you love him you will help him to recover his normal self. my prayers I send to both of you as I know the havoc narcotic pain pills can cause in ones life and hope God reaches your hubby and helps hinm to break free from the addiction. hugs from hatley.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Apr 12
I do think that is the only way that he is going to stop. You see, I think that there are times that he doesn't realize that his addiction is hurting more than just himself and me, it is hurting our kids as well. Last Saturday was really hard for me because that was the first time that I had to resort to asking someone else to help us to provide for our children for a holiday. Then with this stunt this week, I knew that I had to take the time to put it all out there because I am having such a hard time having to always tell the kids that we can't do things that they want to do.
@myfb2009 (8296)
• Malaysia
24 Apr 12
Dora, it is a pity that you had gone through such a situation now. I will always keep praying for you and family. I think the best solution is try to schedule another doctor appointment, to solve out the pain medication. Because in the long run, it is really going to bring a big financial problem to your family. Hope you and your hubby able to solve this matter soon. Hope to hear more update news from you.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
4 May 12
I've told him that he really needs to talk to his doctor about it and to go ahead and see the doctor sooner, rather than later, but it isn't something that I've been able to get him to do because of the fact that he says he is just tired of doctors.
@laken02 (3065)
• United States
15 Apr 12
i am so sorry your going thru a hard time right now, i will pray for you and ypur family as well.. all i can say is we have a hard time with my daughter who is 21 and does not want to work, hanging around thugs for friends and her bf is a jail bird and he wont work either, and we finaly had to put out foot down this week, we she had no place to stay so we offered for her to stay with us if she would get a job and help out with cleaning and cooking and stuff.. well she stayed one night and lyed to me the next day to get hubby to give her 5.00 it was supsed to be gas money for her to go to a job interview i got her at my work.. instead she took the money and left and found a friend to sponge off of and move in with she came for her clothes and i ask her is she was still going to the job interview and she said yes, and of course did not show, that was yesterday.. so she calls me that evening and ask if she can come get a pop i said no , you had a job you could have got and did not show up and she hang up.. she has done it all including steal from my mom in excess of ,6,000 dollars yeah.. and now mom lives in china with my mom and she cant take anymore off her.. so she is on her own.. i refuse to help someone who you try and they dont want to help themselves .. its hard to let her go but she brought it on herself and it was affecting my relationship with hubby as well so we put a stop to it.. i told her if she gets her life straightened out and has a job we will talk again until then dont come back.. hard i know but ive had my limit.. with her .. hope things look up for you.. keeping you in my prayers :)
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Apr 12
Right now it is too early to tell if this is going to work. However, I do know that the things that I told him the other day are serious statements and I will take action on them when/if the time comes to do it. I've already talked to my mother to make sure that I do have a place to go when I need a roof over my head. If it all comes down to it ultimately, I know that I will end up putting him out of the house because this is my children's house.
@much2say (55606)
• Los Angeles, California
13 Apr 12
Oh, dorannmwin - I feel for you!!! I have never had stage this sort of intervention - I think you are so brave for doing this!! I hope other members of the family and closest friends are in on your intervention too . . . to help him stick with getting off cold turkey. That way he can't go asking them for any money or do him any favors to get the pills or whatever. If there is a tall support wall that he can't climb over - then maybe he'll see that he MUST kick this habit - once and for all. I truly hope it all works out . . . keeping you and your family in my thoughts!!! Stay strong, dorannmwin!!!!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
I've been trying to stay strong. I was born to be a strong person I think and the reasons that I've been through some of the things that I've been through in my life were all leading me up to this moment. I've been by his side through everythin in the last year and I don't want to give up. However, if it really does all come down to it, I really have to make the decision that is the right one for my children because they are my life.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
20 Apr 12
I feel your pain! And I admire that you've found courage to stage an intervention. I know that your hubby probably deserve a little break from all of his troubles, but it's great that you've determined that line between the 'break' and abusing his medication. I hope you're successful. Prayers on your way!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
4 May 12
Prayers are definitely appreciated because this isn't something that is easy at all. I know that things are starting to get better, slowly but surely. However, that doesn't mean that things are all better by any means. Of course, the stress on both of us is getting worse as we get closer and closer to his next scan.
@Reba47 (35)
• United States
13 Apr 12
This is very hard for families to go through but you can make it, I have seen other families pull through addiction. Depending on what he is taking going cold turkey could be deadly, most of the time the addict needs to be titrated down as their bodies have come to reply upon the chemicals they absorb daily. I would get him in to see a doctor if at all possible financially. If he is on opiates many states have free clinics that will help him slowly stop to keep him from getting too sick. I'm not sure where you are but here in California my cousin was able to call all the pharmacies within a fifty mile radius and flag her husband as a narcotics abuser making it so no pharmacy dared fill his prescriptions without her present. Even a year later any medication he is prescribed must be signed for by my cousin. Calling his doctors never worked, he always found a new one. Until he was ready and made up his mind to kick his habit, nothing worked, least of all interventions. He lost his job, his car, his license, and finally even his home, it was truly horrible for a few years for everyone that cares for him. If you can I would suggest getting both marriage and individual counceling as there is oftentimes underlying issues which need to be worked out and resentments that grow between couples during this time even when you don't realize it initially. Perhaps you know of a church that offers these services since you have requested prayer? If not many universities with psyche programs offer free sessions as a part of their training. Don't be worried a student doesn't have the expertise you and your family require in this time, they have worked hard for many years to get where they are and won't be in a hurry to mess up as they are almost ready to graduate. I wish you all the best.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
The thing that stinks the most about this entire situation is that he has recently changed general practioners and while I had a pretty good relationship with his old doctor, I haven't had the opportunity to meet the new doctor. (The change in doctors was actually not his choice, his prior doctor left the practice). With that said, they have worked him down on paper from taking 6 10mg oxycodone each day to 4 5mg hydrocodone every day. However, the problem comes into the fact that getting the pills off of the street is something that he has no problems doing.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
13 Apr 12
I don't think he will be able to do this cold turkey. He needs medical help to do it. You will have to tell him that if he won't go for treatment, you will have to turn him in. Or call his doctors and ask them what to do. My mom was addicted after a bout with a very painful condition where she was on vicodin and a patch of something much stronger. She decided to stop using the patch, and got so sick I had to take her to the ER. She discovered she was going through withdrawal and they kept her there three days to help her through it medically. After that, she would not use pain killers again until she entered the hospice program several years later and knew she only had a few weeks to live.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
14 Apr 12
That is one thing that I will do for him. If he does get sick from withdrawal I will take him to the hospital so that they would be able to help him through it medically. However, I can't convince him to just go to the hospital and tell them that he needs help detoxing. I think that me being very, very tough on him is the only way that he will do what is really right.