Student Loan Issue
By AidaLily
@AidaLily (1450)
United States
May 6, 2012 12:09pm CST
So I am realizing more and more as this election goes on that people really have NO idea what they are talking about. They blame the left or the right for problems, lack of solutions, and so on while they continue to allow themselves to be blinded by smoke and mirrors.
Take the recent student loan issue about them "doubling" to 6.8% in the summer. How many people both in college, out of college, paying on government student loans, etc. actually look at their loans? My friends and I all graduated in the years 2003, 2004, 2005, with our one friend who was held back graduating in 2006.
All of us have at least gone to college once with some of us changing our majors later on.
These government student loans have always been 6.8% interest. Just in case this was just the state we lived in and for some reason the federal government allowed this state to double it years ago, I asked my college friends who live in different parts of the country after they moved in high school. The government loans were still 6.8%. It has been this way under Bush and currently under Obama.
However, Romney and Obama both are talking about stopping it from becoming 6.8% and extending the interest break ... to get votes? 99% of college students just sign for their loans and never read the fine print or anything so getting these votes based on complete BS while pretending that they care.
Nothing is going to change no matter who you vote for until people care and understand more about the country, and less about how well one side and their media is treating them. Someone posted up a discussion a while back about 'voting for the president is like voting for your favorite fictional character' and while people don't want to believe that... its true.
However, people seem to love to be "wined and dined" by other people who just want to get "lucky".
2 responses
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
6 May 12
Actually in 2007 congress passed a bipartisan bill, signed by Bush, that cut it in half, to 2.9%. My student loan is 2.9% and trust me, I do read the fine print unlike most people. I'm the guy that people stare at because I take my time reading even the most perfunctory contracts like when getting cable installed.
So that 2.9% bit is set to expire soon which would return the rates back to 6.8% as they were when you got your student loans.
Here's a nice article on politifact that explains all of it while correcting Obama's lie that Romney would allow the rates to double, i.e. return to what they were 5 years ago.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/04/barack-obama/barack-obamas-life-julia-tool-says-mitt-romney-wou/
Personally, it worries me the way some on the left are encouraging everyone to go to college, study liberal arts and get useless degrees. College education is a good thing, but debt is a bad thing. People shouldn't go to college just for the sake of going because that will leave them in debt for thousands, in some cases over a hundred thousand dollars, with no legitimate way to pay that money back. It's like telling someone to start an apprenticeship with a plumber when they have no desire or intention to ever be a plumber. You're wasting your time and the plumber's.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
7 May 12
When did he sign it in 2007, because when I went to school in 2007 they still have 6.8% on federal student loans same with my friends and so on. According to your statement, right now they should be 2.9% and go up to 6.8% soon. My federal school loans are still 6.8% and I've been going to school again since the beginning of the year. I graduated in 2005... went to college the 1st time in 2007... and I am back in college now. I have yet to see my loans at 2.9% and a lot of people haven't. Though without a better application for federal aid I am sure that both candidates will still continue to support the schools "Financial Advisors" not telling students all that information.
I agree with the liberal arts degrees. My friend is upset because she goes to school for journalism and well... most things are online nowadays and they use freelancers to write articles and such. I don't understand why they push for those degrees when those jobs are being placed by computers and people who are willing to do them for maybe five dollars on a freelance site. Its not all them though. Schools push those degrees and give numbers that make it seem like its worthwhile.
Perhaps the government should look at how they are allowing these places to use their funds or determine how much aid a person can receive.
@FrugalMommy (1438)
• United States
7 May 12
AidaLily, are your loans subsidized or unsubsidized? The type of loan affects the interest rate. Unsubsidized are at 6.8% and start accruing interest as soon as they're disbursed. Subsidized loans are 3.4% and don't start accruing interest until the student's out of school.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 May 12
FrugalMommy is right. 3.4% is actually the right number. Mine though are 2.9%. I'm not sure exactly why mine are so low, they just are and I like them that way. Regardless of whether or not rates go back up, I will likely have mine paid down by the end of this year.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
8 May 12
My husbands student loans were 4.0% he is being forced at 63 to pay them though disabled on Social Security Disablity and he does work as a sub teacher 6-8 days a month during the school year October-June no benefits, no holiday pay, no unemployment when laid off for summer, no retirement plan. He trained to be a full time teacher, got his degree in 1996 and from there everything went sour. 1997 the government created no child left behind. They required initial teachers meaning new to the field to have k-8 endorsement to teach middle school kids, My husband trained to be primarily a middle school teacher he got a 4-12 endorsement and degree. To teach high school he needed a math endorsement. He did not have that and to teach middle school he needed two more years of credits and courses to enable him to teach those grades full time. He was told NO you used up all the allowed student loans. No more loans. His 4-12 degree and endorsement were NO longer valid or acceptable. He had to go back to school or be relagated to sub teaching as able. Sub teachers make below poverty level wages. He deferred is loans as long as possible. He also asked and got all the forebearance he was told he was allowed. He could not pay the demanded $425 a month payments on a $1200 a month income and half went to our mortgage and still does. Summers he gets $997 a month. I don't work I have been a homemaker 42 years and also disabled with arhtritis and fibromyalgia. The government changed the laws and stole his degree making it invalid but they demand he repay the loan and now garnishes his social security check monthly. I don't have medical of any kind and can't get it. We both need dentures and cannot afford them. We have one car. we don't use credit cards, we don't have satellite or cable t.v or bundles. We have internet because our son helped get it and pays for it so he can use it when he is here. Or we would not have that. We don't eat out unless someone else pays the bill. We don't get newspapers or magazines, We don't use cell phones, we make do or do without and go to food banks to eat. We did not ask to be this way he wanted to be a teacher and not be on social security disability. Government should not make him repay loans since they robbed him of his ability to work in the area and with the degree he trained for by changing the education laws for teaching. Knowing he and others like him at his then age of 44 could not get work and would not be able to re-pay the loans. They knew he could get a full time job, they lied. He did read the fine print and he believed he would work full time and should have worked the last 17 years and had a good retirement coming up but they stole it from him. And demand he repay the loans after they sold it to collections and doubled the loans with usuary interest. They are greedy and liars and selfish and do not care if they literally put you in the street.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
8 May 12
I would have to agree based on that. There is no reason to literally destroy someone's life by changing the laws that drastically. However, I do know that they screw you over when it comes to schooling. My husband is going to try to go back to school in one to two years since I am currently in school. He has to pay back his loans when the school got bought and dropped his program so he couldn't even finish. He tried to fight it but they are like well you were in school up until 3 months before the program was supposed to end, so you have to pay them. It is ridiculous. What the hell was he supposed to do if the school dropped the program?
They shouldn't expect your husband to have to pay them back when he couldn't get what he needed to continue teaching. And I have to agree that after school payments are ridiculously high. I read everything and almost didn't go back to school because of it.