raymart vs Tulfo
By stanley777
@stanley777 (9402)
Philippines
May 7, 2012 2:57am CST
I am sure a lot of you has heard of their fight in the Naia terminal.. It has been going on the news non stop since yesterday. Both of them have different stories abut who started it first, and there is no cctv camera to prove it..I don't really know which one to believe.. If the Cebu Pacific was just not incompetent- this has been the nth time that there had been a problem...
nothing would have happened..
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12 responses
@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
7 May 12
There are always three sides to a story. Your side, my side and the truth. the couple Claudine and Raymart will insist on their story and the same goes for Tulfo. What happened was a result of misplaced anger which they did not bother to hide even amidst a crowded and public area. According to Tulfo, he did not like the way Claudine was berating the Cebu Pacific employee and must have taken a picture to show to the viewers of the popular TV show some form of arrogance on the part of celebrities. All of them showed irresponsibility in one way or another. Being well known personalities does not absolve them from their actuation in a public place. We cannot single out Cebu Pacific for incompetence since even the bigger airlines also commit these lapses on baggage. Since Cebu Pacific charges a very minimal amount for fare compared to the national carrier, it cannot afford to hire the highly skilled and experienced staff who would certainly expect higher wages.
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@annrielyn_03 (350)
• Philippines
7 May 12
I knew this story and it's so stupid of them! i do not believe that there is no cctv there. how come an airport does not have that? I believe the Santiago's does not want to be revealed what had really happened because her wife has a bad attitude towards the ground steward which is what Tulfo said that's why he was to take pictures. The attitude of Claudine was really bad that Tulfo wants to take a scoop with but unfortunately it was seen by Raymart that's why he got mad!
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
7 May 12
That's my opinion too, of the incident after watching the footage of the panggugulpi nina Raymart & Claudine and entourage kay Tulfo.
And i agree, Claudine really turned bad indeed on the ground stewardess, so she doesn't want any picture or video taken. Maybe they are thinking it was video that was taken of her berating the poor girl.
Now, they cannot comment because the footage showed Tulfo alone, in the assault. Try hearing TV patrol tonight and for sure it will again be showed and magnified. ![](/Content/images/emotes/thumbdown.gif)
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@nyang1984 (464)
• Philippines
7 May 12
i should agree with you guyz. and since they joined the world of showbiz, they must be also aware that there are lots of eyes watching them. and if they don't want bad publicity, they must be in their proper way of approaching people, right???
@annrielyn_03 (350)
• Philippines
7 May 12
well you know they should not be actress and actors anymore if they did not want to expose themselves and their attitudes in public. and now they do not want to be scandalized.
@SIMPLYD, looks like we have same opinion. It's too obvious that they did not want the cctv to be shown so that Claudine will have her name cleared. and if you have watched the interview in GMA, you'll see like Claudine was really feeling bad and she's crying like a kid.
@nyang, if i were in Claudine's place i would not beat a man older than me! It was a bad behavior to do! older man should be respected and seeing that not only raymart beat tulfo, all of them did! pity the old man!
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@befrindwithme26 (5805)
• Philippines
7 May 12
Yes i don't know which one is true of them.Each of them are depending about their own truth or even a lie words they speak.
I don't know about what they will do hope truth will revealed.
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@einerb (97)
• Philippines
8 May 12
Honesty is lacking here, when bad scene happens both parties have different stories to tell. They are all known public figure they should set as a good example. A media man will act on his duty if there is an extra ordinary event happens whenever and wherever it leads him to be. On the part of the artist disgusting contradiction on their film rule to their real self. Hope both of them realize that being true and honest will both lead them good.
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@mikyung (2232)
• Philippines
7 May 12
I think the lesson learned from this incident is that we should not hurt any one, physically or emotionally, for whatever reason. I'm beginning to realize, the importance of controlling anger. Anger to be released physically at the expense of your would-be enemy can bring no good at all times. Another is that, every misunderstanding can be fixed on a peaceful manner. Ideal as it may sound, but can be done with an open mind.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
8 May 12
Yes, anger should never be acted upon.. People should have cool heads so no issues like this would happen again. Maybe it is the hot weather that made their heads so hot too. ![](/Content/images/emotes/sad.gif)
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@mikyung (2232)
• Philippines
9 May 12
I agree. I find it therapeutic to refocus our anger to something worthwhile. Reading books, playing video games or running errands.
Yes, I agree, the environment can really affect someone's mood and disposition. So, we better find a way to release it.
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@Graceekwenx (3160)
• Philippines
7 May 12
that is bad... a CCTV would really help as evidence... I sure feel bad for Tulfo. I have heard over the radio this morning that he is judo expert when he was younger. Tulfo may be a judo guy but he is old now at 65 and who could possibly win over when you are ganged up?
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
7 May 12
A martial artist is expected to be an increasing expert in the field of martial arts especially if he is getting older,
the more his age increases, the more his experience in the field of combat increases too...
unlike boxing, the more your age increases, the more you are getting weak, totally different in the field of Chinese Kung Fu martial arts...
but he is a Japanese Judo Expert and he is a black belt, but Judo is designed only to fight one man against one man,
not a one man against tens
and Judo is created only to lift an opponent and to throw him to the ground,
then how can he lift more than 10 men plus 1 woman?
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
8 May 12
It was only part of the fight though- what i saw on youtube is what they called the second round.
it's hard to tell since no one video taped the first thing that really happened.
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@apoljuice1 (730)
• Philippines
7 May 12
Based on what I've read and heard, it's hard to know exactly who was at fault. It doesn't really matter if it was Cebu pacific, or it was lost luggage: it could have been any simple reason that ticked off the Santiagos. The main point is, Tulfo wanted to catch the wife in the act being disrespectful towards people, and Raymart wanted to protect his family's privacy. I suppose you couldn't blame Raymart because they were celebrities, and it was annoying that the whole encounter turned out to be one giant public fiasco because his wife was being mean to the employees. But you also could not blame Tulfo if he wanted justice for the employees. There could have been a really legit reason as to why their luggage was dropped off some place else. Furthermore, when Tulfo explained that when their companion grabbed him, Raymart did not deny this fact. So if you really think about it, who was really to blame here?
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
8 May 12
I think all of them were to blame- they all had a part in this issue- some actions triggered the others...
I hope the witnesses would speak up or even just send letters to the media to know the entire story. I just didn't lie Tulfo saying mean things about the couple though..
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@noscarl (105)
• Philippines
7 May 12
Raymar, tulfo, claudine.. None of them should be blame. Because tulfo he have the rights to take picture because he is a broadcaster. And raymart and claudine. Have their own privacy. And both of them are humans they have a feelings. I think the one should be blame here is the f***ing naia airport because they put the bags away. And the cctv what type of airport is this the cctv's are broken.?
@erjnsimon (1191)
• Makati, Philippines
7 May 12
Just watch the news 24 oras on GMA7. This was a girl who witnessed the truth about the incident who contacted GMAnews to opposed that Tulfo is the victim which means that the couple is truly the victim. :) . In addition, if you already watch the video of the fight, in fact, it is just the second part of what truly happened. By the statement of the witness, the right side belongs to the couple. Even though they are celebrity, we must all know that they are still normal persons behind the camera.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
8 May 12
Yeah, I heard abut the girl witness. I think all of those who witnessed should tel the media..Or even the internet so we would really know the entire story.. I still don't know who's telling the truth..it's hard to tell with no cctv.
@greenpeas (998)
• Philippines
9 May 12
Actually there are now two other witnesses and they both collaborate Tulfo's story. This and the video and Youtube will certainly be a big evidence against Raymart and Claudine, plus the fact that one of the witnesses are willing to testify, unlike the lone pro-Claudine witness who are shady at best.
@newgirl0511 (166)
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7 May 12
I've watched the video and I felt so mad about santiago's and barretto's team. It seems like they have no father or uncle having the same age as mon tulfo. They might forget that they are tv personalities and like that is not acceptable at all. The same as tulfo brothers. They should not threaten the couple. They should go to the court and file a case against them. Using television network will not resolve the problem. It would only worsen it until someone is killed or someone got into prison. It seems that the tulfo brothers will take the law with their own hands just to get revenge. That's not right. Television network should not tolerate that kind of abuse. We all have the right to speak but in this case. File a case to the court and let the law provide the truth.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
8 May 12
Yes, that is what i do not like abut the tulfo brothers- they are very aggressive and using violence and words t solve problems.. They should just go to court and gather evidence and witnesses to get this over with without anyone getting more hurt.
@newgirl0511 (166)
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8 May 12
Yes, file a case and let the law prevail. And take note. Television network let this happened. They should hold responsible for this thing too. They should not tolerate those things like threatening someone. They have editors and writers and producers. Films has been scanned, reviewed and edited. They have power to stop this. Then make it stop.
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