Ron Paul vs Romney Supporters
By dark_joev
@dark_joev (3034)
United States
May 8, 2012 1:41am CST
Ron Paul and Romney Supporters are right now going to war at the State Conventions across the country right now. Ron Paul is right now winning this war that is going on for delegates. The Romney people are very angry about what the Ron Paul supporters are doing at the State Level right now. They have even gone so far to say that the Ron Paul people are in some way invading and defying the voters. The funny thing is that the voters should know if they did their due diligence that those state votes where nothing more than Straw Polls.
The issue of course isn't the fact that the Ron Paul people are trying for delegates the issue is that they are winning the delegates. So now the Romney crowd is very angry that their candidate might not actually get the nomination. Which would be a very good thing for the country actually having an very clear choice between the two parties this go around.
Romney does have the support of the Establishment who has been making threats to State Chairman about having to many Ron Paul Delegates in their ranks going to the National Convention in how they could be possibly invalidated which if the Establishment does this the Republican Party will be completely torn apart and Romney will have no chance of getting the Presidency.
In my opinion the GOP can tear themselves apart for all I care. It will be cool to see one of the major parties fall this year as it would open up the country to third parties and this battle right now at the State level in the Republican Party will be an all out war by the time August rolls around.
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@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
8 May 12
isn't this kind of thing common when the republicans are not in power. when they look bad, they really look bad. but, i don't think it's their turn yet again. i looks like it goes in cycles. i also don't think that ppl are ready to give new parties are try. we still too shell shock at trying new things. look what happened when we gave bush a try.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
8 May 12
No, it's not. We had Clinton for 8 years and nothing like this happened. The last time an outsider huge cut into the republican voting block was in '92 and '96 with Ross Perot. That came after 8 years of Reagan and 4 years of Bush, a total of 12 years under Republican presidents.
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
10 May 12
Taskr is right the last time the party got into this big of a spilt was when Ross Perot split the party up.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
9 May 12
Do you really care if they cry foul? We followed the rules. We got involved with the delegate process. All completely legal and by the books. The only reason they are ticked off is because ALOT of us got involved and now they have to deal with us and we are NOT the "fall in line" types.
This is about really changing the focus on the GOP to a smaller more fiscally sound party that respects the constitution. Now is that so bad? oh yeah...for the ones into crony corporatism it is because we cant be bought.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
10 May 12
I think it is funny that they aren't happy that the Ron Paul supporters are getting the Delegates and that Ron Paul is actually looking like he might be able to at the very least get quite a lot of his Polices and beliefs to become officially apart of the Republican Party Platform which is something that they don't want to have happen. All I know is that I will be watching very closely in august to see what happens in Tampa with those Ron Paul folks in there it will be one awesome Convention to see.
I think it will be one of those major events where we could see the Republican Party really have a huge battle at their convention and one that could split the party up pretty hard.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
11 May 12
unless they do what they did last time. they barred alot of ron paul supporters from the convention. they even kicked them out of the convention. I had a friend that was a delegate at the convention that got escorted out by security for no other reason than she was a ron paul supporter. They were uber paranoid at the last convention about anyone who they even thought might be even a little leaning toward ron paul. It was pretty crazy. They even tried to barr Ron Paul from the convention floor. Yet the whole time McCain was all over the Ron Paul campaign wanting his volunteer and donor lists and wanting him to endorse McCain.
I will be watching the party very closely. I have been for a while. I have still seen a lot of open hostility to us from the party. In some places it is better than last time, in some places worse. But then we are better orgainzed and prepared this time around so they can't pull some of the BS they pulled last time.
It is going to come down to this:
1. The GOP decides on the Big Tent theory and lets us have a seat at the GOP table and be a real part of the party. That will be difficult...espeically with the NeoCons.
2. They will try to force us out again and that will cause a BIG riff within the party during the general. We leave....they stand a good chance of loosing in the general and in other elections. At this point I am all for leaving the GOP. The Libertarian party would welcome us with open arms. I really like Gary Johnson. So if Ron Paul does not win the primary I am campaigning for Johnson in the general.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
24 May 12
I won't lie, I'm kind of loving the GOP fighting like cats and dogs amongst themselves, but I have to admit I can almost understand how the Romney supporters feel. Don't get me wrong - I absolutely can't stand Romney and can only imagine how horrid things would be with him in charge - but it would seem that if the most members of the GOP had really wanted Ron Paul as their nominee he'd have won at least one primary. I just have some serious issues with our whole process of choosing Presidential candidates and the actual elections; I have no use for delegates or electors, I prefer the simplicity of "one person, one vote".
I have no say, obviously, in what the Republican Party does but I'm sure these next few months, particularly the convention, will be quite entertaining indeed. I'm already stocking up on popcorn!
Annie
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
24 May 12
Ron Paul did win a primary in the virgin Islands if I remember correctly.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
8 May 12
I've spent a lot of time wading in the swamps of the Romney camp. I tell you, it's vicious. As a Paul campaigner, I have been accused of every thing from being delusional when telling people that Paul actually won the results of a number of primaries to being accused "stealing the election" and "circumventing the constitution" when they realized I did in fact know what I was talking about when claiming those primary wins.
It boils down to this, to Romney's supporters: It is not our fault that you were all apathetic and half arsed in supporting your candidate. We did everything legal by the book. The only difference is, we cared enough about our candidate to better learn the book and follow it all the way through to the county and state conventions. We had a candidate that without exception we were passionate about and believed in fully enough to get very involved in the party and nominating process. It is not our fault you all decided instead get behind the "well, I guess this guy will do, at least he isn't Obama" candidate. Oh....and if the results come in and Paul gets the actual nomination.....you're welcome.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
11 May 12
I tell ya though, this is it. This is the Republican party's last chance with me. I'm done trying to save the party from itself. The Libertarian party is looking pretty good this year and will probably make a little more of a national showing. It's gonna be kinda cool to be part of that.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
9 May 12
This has been a vicious. I feel like I have been through a war and it is not even the general yet.
People can cry foul all they want. Ron Paul's followers took the time to educate themselves on the delegate process, followed the rules and were dedicated enough to do it. We can't help it if the other candidates followers just wanted to show up and vote then go home. They did not bother to get involved with the delegate process and we did. That is the plain truth.
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