want to have a bake sale? sorry! you can't!!!!!

@fran429 (502)
United States
May 9, 2012 12:23pm CST
That's what I heard on the news this morning. My state has BANNED ALL bake sales from schools. They feel like it's linked to child obesity. I think it's absolutely ridiculous! Totally absurd! Bake sales are a form of fundraising! AND, if I heard the story on the news correctly, it's banning all bake sales from schools as well as girl scout cookie sales and everything like that. At my kid's school, they did a bake sale once as a fundraiser for the tsunami's or Haiti or something like that. All funds raised went to the American Red Cross disaster relief! I'm pretty sure that even if Johnny isn't allowed to buy 1 cupcake at school, it's not going to keep him from going home and eating 3 cupcakes instead! How would you guys feel if suddenly your state decided that you could no longer have bake sales? What's next? Close down every single fast food restaurant in this state? Sheesh!
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• United States
9 May 12
I think that is absolutely ridiculous! I understand that obesity has become a problem, but I do not think that the government needs to step in and ban bake sales or put a tax on not only sugar but also on all things that contain sugar (I have heard rumors that some states or maybe it was the Federal government was thinking about doing this). Sugar in and of itself is not bad or evil. A person can be perfectly healthy and still indulge in sugar and sweets from time to time ... just about everything is alright in moderation. In fact, most things are not good if you eat too much of them, and that includes meat, dairy, vegetables and fruits. We all need a balanced diet, and while sweets are not necessarily considered a part of a balanced diet, having an oatmeal raisin cookie every now and then is not going to kill you and also can count as a grain and fruit.
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@fran429 (502)
• United States
9 May 12
Next thing you know, once sugar is fully banned, they'll be closing the doors on fast food joints! They'll start with Dunkin Donuts and Krispy Kreme and the other donut places and then move on to the burger joints... then the pizza joints... Thanks to the politicians coming in wanting to control our life, we're losing our freedom! It's turning into a sad-sad country here! Our poor kids!
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• United States
16 May 12
Thank you for the honor of best response. Sugar in and of itself is definitely not the cause of obesity. Our ancestors have had sugar in various forms for a very long time, and obesity has not really been a problem until recently. Of course, we do now have more things sweetened with sugar than before, but I do not think that is the problem ... it is more like a symptom. I think that lack of exercise and not eating balanced meals is far more of a problem than sugar. If sugar was the cause of obesity and therefore needed to be banned, then it would have been an issue centuries ago. When banning sugar and baked goods does not work to stop obesity, then what other things are they going to ban in an effort to control us?
@topffer (42156)
• France
10 May 12
Since the beginning of this year we have a new tax on sugar sweetened drinks in France for the same reason -- sugar is supposed to be a cause of obesity --. Personally I prefer to pay the tax than to buy drinks sweetened with aspartame and get a cancer. Politicians should not try to teach us what is good or not for our health.
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@rosegardens (3034)
• United States
16 May 12
Even though you have already picked best response, I must chime in to this discussion. Banning baked goods, fast food, etc. is NOT going to stop obesity. One thing comes to mind when I hear of kids plugging change into a vending machine at school, or buying junk food at the cafeteria--where do they get the money for this stuff? Why does a kid need money to go to school? I was given a dime every day for milk. Our lunches were bagged. In fact, at our school we did not have a cafeteria. What is wrong with bagged lunch most of the time? Once or twice a month, let them have cafeteria food when you know what is on the menu. It is a proven fact most obese folks do not sit down at the family dinner table together. If mom, dad and children sit down to eat, they are less likely to overeat and more likely to eat what is good for them. Mom is watching after all, and has made the food. The problem is not the fast food joints, it is not the sugar, it is not the fat, the bread, the starch, etc. the problem is mom and dad indulging the children. One thing I cannot stand to see is a fat kid, that tells me the kid is being abused. Yes, abused--he/she is given whatever they want at the cost of their health and psychological well being. Yes, there are some who do not have control over their weight because of medical reasons, but a majority of people (including myself) are heavy from not eating properly and not getting enough exercise. I live near a school, and see kids walking all the day or being brought in vehicles to school. After that, I do not see them. Where are they? At home, playing some game on the computer? Why are they not out getting fresh air? Winter time is even worse, it is like a town without children. We were made to go out and play, unless the temperature was dangerous. That was pretty rare. Chores. I never see children helping in the yards. Why not? It gives them exercise and teaches them responsibility. The government does not need to tax our sugar consumption. The government does need to stop trying to re-define the family, and does need to encourage family life.
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@fran429 (502)
• United States
17 May 12
Rosegardens, VERY well said! Even though I agree with everything you said, I don't think I could have been able to put it into the words that you were able to!
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• United States
17 May 12
thank you.
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
16 May 12
It's getting bad when bake sales and the Girl scout cookie sellers are being forced to go black market..What next...SWAT team raids at the Krispy Creme outlets?
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
16 May 12
At least the Girl scout training is based on the Military..they'd at least have some survival training skills and their mobility to help keep them out of harm's way when they have to go underground..The bake sales would just draw too much attention and probably wouldn't make it...
@fran429 (502)
• United States
16 May 12
LOL... hopefully they raid Dunkin Donuts before Krispy Kreme! Krispy Kreme is healthier than Dunkin Donuts LOL... not by much, but it's still fewer calories... ;-)
@marguicha (222992)
• Chile
10 May 12
It´s a pity your state chooses to ban bake sales instead of having free lessons for parents on nutrition. The funds for those lessons could be taken from a special tax that fast food chains should pay. I have this idea since children in my country began to get on weight when MacDonald´s colonized us.
@fran429 (502)
• United States
11 May 12
Fast food is definitely the cause of obesity... that, and parents being lazy and allowing it to happen. Now, that said, there are cases where it's NOT the fault of the food consumption by the child allowed by the parent - where it's a medical condition & obesity caused medically is not what I'm referring to here. But, I bet you if have identical twins at the same height/weight/everything & put Susie on a diet of baked goods (cookies, brownings, cakes, pies, breads, etc) and Patty on a diet of fast food for an entire week, I bet you that Patty is going to weigh more!
@petersum (4522)
• United States
9 May 12
That would be the same states that banned children from operating lemonade stalls? And you think you live in a democracy!
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@fran429 (502)
• United States
9 May 12
Taxachusetts banned lemonade stands? Good thing you told me this because I was gonna be having a tag sale this year & the kids love to have lemonade stands with a bake sale... looks like they're not making any money this year! SMH!
@petersum (4522)
• United States
9 May 12
It was predicted! Surprising how clever mylot members are! http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2106312.aspx There were a number of other topics too but the mylot search is failing to dig them out today!
@asyria51 (2861)
• United States
10 May 12
Our school district has drastically cut funding for the school libraries and are instead taking that money and dumping it into technology. I understand the thought process, but the parents step up and run a bake sale every year so teachers can get new class sets of books. Last year the bake sale raised enough money to buy 4 class sets of books.
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@fran429 (502)
• United States
11 May 12
Exactly my point! The school budgets are bad enough! Now, they're taking away one of the most successful ways of raising the money to help the school out!
@Anne18 (11029)
9 May 12
That is so very sad as it is a very good fund raiser for school funds. Perhaps you can have a veggie stall instead and everyone bring in veggies and fruit to sell. I'm quite upset about that, the children must be so sad about it.
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@fran429 (502)
• United States
11 May 12
the problem is that it's being used as a fund raiser. You're not making any funds if you buy fruit at the store to sell it at a stand. People will just buy their own fruit from the store instead.
• United States
9 May 12
Hi fran429, This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard! How can a bake sale be linked to child obesity? And Girl Scout cookies? If a child is obese because of overeating, it is the parent's concern (and fault for letting them overeat), noone else's. And sometimes a person is overweight for other health (maybe it's in the genes like me, I call em "fat genes") reasons, not just eating too much. Why does the world make everyone think they have to be skinny? We are all made different, not everyone is meant to be skinny. Then they wonder why there is anorexia and bolemia (not sure if spelled right). Do they have to control everything? This just makes me totally angry!
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@fran429 (502)
• United States
9 May 12
I agree! It's just INSANE!
• United States
10 May 12
That is absurd. For one thing it is usually adults who purchase items at theses sales. They will feed their kids what ever junk they want wherever they get it from. Second a healthy sale can happen if wanted but now the state has taken that away as well. We did a healthy bake sale. Only low fat/sugar/etc items. We did awesome at our church.
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@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
10 May 12
hi fran,I find that decision to be very u fair...like you said, even iff the kids dosen' buy a cupcake at the bake sale at school, dosne;t stop him from eating them somewhere else.. I think that is crazy!!!!!!!
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