Has anyone else heard this?
By mysticmaggie
@mysticmaggie (2498)
United States
May 12, 2012 11:29am CST
I caught a tiny piece of a news report the other day and am hoping I heard it wrong. It seems that a law is in the works to require you to tell who you voted for in the presidential elections for jobs, loans, etc.
Did you hear this? Surely it would be illegal if it were true, wouldn't it? Let me know what you would do if this in fact became a required block to fill out on any forms.
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10 responses
@adforme (2114)
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13 May 12
Having your choice of a presidential candidate be a mandatory block on a form sounds completely unreasonable. It is a private matter and would not be acceptable to disclose for employment or banking purposes. There is absolutely no need to discuss political issues unless you choose to. If discussing such matters becomes a requirement, there would be a definite legal battle to change this. People have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the United States of America and one's political preferences are private. This is even true if you are a member of government.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
13 May 12
I certainly hope it stays that way. If I find anything more on it, I will put it on this site.
@Shannonymous (108)
• United States
12 May 12
The bottom line is, no law could ever make you reveal it, because you always lie. Can a job check the record of who you voted for? No.
Now, if we're talking about whether a job can *ask* who you voted for, I'm not sure if that's illegal and I don't really think it should be. They're a private company, it's their prerogative to use what criteria they wish, as long as their not discriminating about something you can't help, like age or gender. If you were going to work for a company that works for certain politicians, they could ask. If it bothers you (as it would probably bother me), then don't work for them.
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@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
12 May 12
Does anyone remember having a car company bailout and suddenly the government is telling them what car to build???
If companies can check your facebook space, how big a step to find out who you voted for?
If it becomes FEDERAL law (translate to regulation)the companies have no choice but to comply or go out of business and that would ALL companies.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
13 May 12
Check out new information above. It is completely legal in most states for employers to discriminate based on political affiliations. Let's hope they never do.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
12 May 12
I can't find any reference to it, but that doesn't mean it isn't out there somewhere. The way they've been shunting rights to the trash can lately, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it. I would be surprised if it was debated in public or reported by the media. They don't want an uprising just yet.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
13 May 12
Once I would have said it is impossible; not any more.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
12 May 12
I have a hard time imagining this is real. Is it a law being drafted by the U.S. Congress? Or is this just in one state legislature? Do you have a bill number for it? I just did some looking and I couldn't find any bill or even a news story on it. I'd a little more info so I can respond properly and if it is a true story, I'd like to know about it so I can oppose it.
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@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
12 May 12
I asked if anyone else had heard it because I didn't hear the whole thing. I have been searching the web trying to locate it and so far, no luck. Will keep looking. If I come up with a bill number, will definitely pass it along. No one in their right mind would want this.
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
12 May 12
I didn't hear about that. I wouldn't put it past the bureaucrats. Pretty soon they will want to know how often you go to the bathroom each day and what kind of toilet paper you use. Even if it came to pass there would be a LOT of law suits and other blockages before it comes to pass. It also goes against the constitution (if I remember right) and the right to privacy.
Of course if it did come to pass, I wouldn't fill out the block honestly. I don't do paperwork well anyhow...I reach a point with the questions when my mind just loses it and I start filling them in with off the wall answers. I have had to fill out enough questionaires for the medical profession over the past 30 years (all because of my on the job injury) that I don't take them seriously anymore. After all, how many times do you have to tell people how tall you are? I have gotten to the point that I put down "Tall enough to reach the ground." Of course that's my warped sense of humor!!!
@globalwide (97)
• United States
12 May 12
Well that may not be to far in the future, as you know the Smart grid infrastructure is now being built/implemented across the country which will include of course Smart Appliances as noted here http://tinyurl.com/toiletsforyou
Just yesterday I had a guy from the electric company wanting to put in the new smart meter that will send power consumption data directly to the power company (so they say). What will be the real purpose? I don't believe it will be for our convenience only. Anyway I refused it's installation, but eventually it will get installed whether we like it or not.
The only reason we can refuse/delay it for now is because this issue is still pending in the courts as to whether this is constitutionally allowed.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
12 May 12
This one may be right. From what I gather the usage would make it possible for the electric company to see which homes, not grids are using too much energy. With the installation of the new meters, it may be possible in the future to do single home brownouts to reduce energy usage.
To my knowledge, so far, it has to be entire grids reduced.
@collectingstardust (94)
• United States
12 May 12
If you are talking about the United States there would be no possible way that anyone would pass that law. It's a violation of privacy, and if they passed a law like that, people would stop voting for anyone in protest
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
12 May 12
I am, indeed, talking about the United States. I also thought we had freedom of speech at political meetings and rallies. In HR347 that has just been voted down by a majority vote of Congress where only three people opposed it. The President just signed it into law.
If there is a secret service person at ANY political meeting and you have the nerve to have signs speaking against the politician or if you verbally say anything in opposition, the secret service can have you jailed for up to a year and a healthy fine. If they decide you are dangerous, that can be upped to 10 years and a healthier fine.
So much for free speech. Are we still so sure our leaders can't pass a law requiring us to give up our 'secret' vote?
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
13 May 12
Just found a site that notes there is no federal law prohibiting discrimination based on political affiliations. Only three states have laws against it - California, New York and Washington. A few unions have it in their contracts that no recrimination can be taken based on political affiliations.
So, could employers request your affiliations? Yes, they could in most states. Fortunately, so far, they are not doing so.
Check out Workplacefairness for additional information.
@globalwide (97)
• United States
12 May 12
A quick search on that subject did not bring in any results regarding that, but I will certainly spend more time searching. I did find this though regarding a Spanish company associated with George Soros that will handle the vote count this November http://tinyurl.com/spanishcount . I think this will prove to be even worse.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
12 May 12
Hi globalwide, this is one thing that Obama cannot outsource simply because each state is responsible for bringing in its own people to do the counting and for choosing which system they prefer.
That's why some use computers and others are hand counted.
Yes SOE was bought by SCTYL, but they do not control every state's counting.
You're right, if it was possible, that would be a horror show worthy of great box office returns!
@vastari (331)
• Ireland
12 May 12
What country are you in? I can't imagine that would be true, in fact I'm pretty sure in a lot of democratic countries that kind of thing could get the employer in a lot of trouble. If I ever saw a form on a job application asking for my political affiliation or who I voted for in an election, I'd probably walk right out and throw the application in the bin.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
12 May 12
I live in the USA and once upon a time believed the fairytale that the people/legal citizens are in charge. Not so sure any more.
@duranv (516)
• Honduras
12 May 12
And how could they know if you are really telling the truth about who you voted for? I am not from the US, but isn't the vote secret?
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
12 May 12
It's supposed to be secret, but sometimes I think we give the government way too much leeway to make the rules. I wonder if it would be better to have the people vote on them instead of Congress and the President.
Say allow four votes a year on no more than four proposed laws at a time that could not contain more than six pages of text in any law. That way we wouldn't be bogged down with thousands of pages of attorney speak and maybe we would get something done for a change.
@abitosunshine (765)
• United States
13 May 12
Interesting topic and discussion thus far! I really never gave it any thought as to whether political affiliation requested on forms would be legal or not.
Personally, I do not see this as too much of an issue. Although my political affiliation is my business, I do not mind standing behind my voting decisions, regardless of who is asking.
That said, the "why" of this question on a form would interest me more than anything. Why should it affect a loan, or similar things, is beyond me. As for it affecting a job, I can actually almost understand that, especially if it were a political or social interest type position.