My "girlfriend" called me her "friend" in a private discussion.
By Cody Stewart
@CODYMAC (1356)
San Diego, California
May 13, 2012 2:38pm CST
Hello, to all of my myLot friends. So, as many of you know, I have a fiancee from the Philippines. We have had some fun times and also some hard times. But just last night she was online doing some activities, and I was doing other things, but we were still on skype.
She was having a private convo with one of her lady friends from the Philippines, and I was brought up. She told her that I was her "friend". Later, her lady friend messaged me, and told me about it. I asked her what she meant, then she told me how she asked about how I was doing, and my fiancee said that I was fine, and was talking to me as well on skype.
She told her friend that I was a "good friend" and nothing about being her fiance. Although this lady friend knew we were in a serious relationship. She never corrected her, but just decided to tell me about it, which I thought was very kind.
Now I am heart broken, and I dont know what to do. I cant tell her what her friend told me, for obvious reasons. But now I am wondering if she is just a scammer trying to "play" me.
I have had a few doubts from things that have happened in the past, but I was just not sure because there was no way to prove it. She promised me that she loved me and I thought it was serious, but now, I know...
Now I see where all of this was leading, just to a broken heart So, I am very shy when it comes to confronting people with things like this, and am not sure how to approach it. How do I let her know that I know her true feelings? I feel like never talking to her again. Like walking away from everything, and when she sees I'm not around, it will make her know that what she did was wrong.
I really need some help. Thank you
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20 responses
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
14 May 12
I know it's difficult, but I am from the Philippines and indeed there are a lot of scammers here. These are mostly those women who seem to have a lot of time online and they have a lot of boyfriends or online chatmates.
One thing that I could assure you, so that you'll know if it's for real or not is:
1. Does she ask for money? If she does, then that's a tip for you. But if you've not given her anything, then she might not be a scammer after all.
2. Does she keep on saying that she wants to be with you in your country? These people are only looking for ways to get out of this country because they think that their lives would be better if they're in a first-world country. It doesn't matter to them who takes them there as long as they could go anywhere else.
3. Have you ever met her in real life? If the answer is NO, then you're on dangerous ground.
4. Does she have a job? If she doesn't then perhaps she's doing this full-time (chatting with people). A person with a job could not spend too much time online and thus has her own career thus is perhaps looking for real love.
I know it seems a lot, but you know what, Filipinas are known to have the 'charm' to woo guys online. We are sweet, and very beautiful. But there are those who are 'real' while those who are only in it for the money.
If you've answered YES to the question of giving money or supporting her in some ways. You need to stop and just forget the whole thing.
I have known of a person before who would go to Western Union Money Transfer almost everyday. When I inquired her about it, she merely told me that she had a lot of 'guys' supporting her. When I dug deeper, I found out that she had a lot of foreign 'boyfriends' who'd send her money every week.
Though I may sound harsh, don't over generalize things because not all Filipinas are like that. You will know if she really loves you if she's willing that you be introduced to her family and friends.
Anyway, just don't be blinded and be objective about it. The best way for you to do this is to confront but if you're not the type of person who would confront then just stop sending money. She would instantly change the moment you stop sending her anything.
Good luck! Have a great Mylot experience ahead!
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hello, laydee. Not at first, she never asked for it, but now it is quite frequent. Yes, she does say it all the time that she wants to come here to have a good job to support her very ill mother.
I have never met her. But what do you mean "on dangerous ground"? She does not have a job, she left it because her mother had a stroke.
Ok, the willingness to be introduced to family and friends, is one thing. I have met them over skype. But that is all. I have stopped sending it, and she just told me that it was ok.
Plus, she told me that she wants me to go to the Philippines to meet her first, before she comes here. So, some of these things fit but others do not. I will be having a conversation with her when she gets online.
Thank you for your comment, and I am grateful for someone who knows what is going on in their country to answer this.
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@jureathome (5361)
• Philippines
14 May 12
That's quite a sad truth, laydee.
I also had a classmate in college before who had an online relationship with an older American guy. Since her English wasn't so good, she'd ask me to write emails for her to be sent to the guy. And, I only did it for her once, because her messages were like Santa's wish list..and I know that she's not really in love with him, but more of just using him for their family's benefit.
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
14 May 12
@CodyMac - It's good that you've stopped sending. Most of them say that they stopped working because of some sick relative. Now, don't get me wrong, perhaps she's different, but how could they really take care of their sick relatives if they don't have the money? Further, if you're really someone she wants her family to meet in person, why does she tell people you're just a friend?
How long have you known the person?
I was never in a relationship with a foreigner that's why I can't really say if she's for real or not, but based on my previous relationships (online) I never really accepted anything from them nor did he become my 'fiance' without meeting.
Did you really propose to her?
@jureathome - True. Most of them are just in it for the family. It's rare to find someone who's truly madly in love with the guy that's why they wanted to meet.
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@Renhard (3471)
• Jamaica
13 May 12
I am in a similar situation, I won't lie to that. But I see one way I can go around your situation, that is if I read what you said correctly. Did you say that you also over heard they talking and you heard that. Or did you just hear when your friend told you? If you over heard then you can use that as a way to confront her. What do you think about that. If you don't want to take that route then you are going to have to get rid of that shyness, And say the person she was talking to was your very close friend. And like a friend will be, she will be honest and wont hide anything from you. Then you can ask her to calmly explain her self when she said you two were just friends. Maybe she have a valid reason for it, like in my situation below. Or maybe she is just hiding something. The fact about this is that she will always try to come up with a reason if it is a lie. That is one more reason I am afraid of this method. You are going to have to be under her skin if you want to get out the truth. But not under her skin so such that you start to feel annoying. Just under the skin to the extent where she can really see that you care, and you just want true answers.
For my situation, my fiancee gave me her facebook email and password to message someone for her. But all of a sudden in the mid process a message came up from a close friend of her, and I was just about to message back saying it is not her in her profile at the moment when I glimpse up and saw there previous discussion saying that we are just friends and nothing more. I felt bad. So I really wanted to confront her. She is doing exams now so I decided I won't confront her now for the reason that, I don't want this problem mess with her exams if you get what I mean. I still ask people for advise because I honestly don't know what to do. Someone gave me a new look on things. They say to me that probably my fiancee didn't want her close friends to know that we are talking and it could be for many reasons. It could possibly bring in more problem or on another term maybe my fiancee didn't know if I would be okay telling her. The person I was getting advise from was saying it could be a lot of valid reasons. And I wont know for sure unless I confront her but I should just wait until exams finish. But the more I wait the more I feel to just forget the situation because it seem as if everything is going perfect around now. And I am afraid to start up a big argument that might not be necessary now in time.
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@Renhard (3471)
• Jamaica
14 May 12
You see the thing about these stuff is that, it is best to confront her face to face, personally. If you get what I mean. Over phone, or so, you just can't receive her true emotion and she can't receive yours either. When there is touch involve, you can feel her breathing on her skin, you can see how watery her eyes truly is, etc, these stuff are what should be present when you are confronting her. I just think it is much better that way.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Well, unfortunately, she lives in the Philippines, and I live here in Oregon. I will be going to the Phils here in August, and then we will meet face to face. I just worry about other things as well.
I am trying to get there first, and see if I can get in tune with the culture, and just go from there. I know it will be hard, but I will talk to her.
Right now it is 4 p.m.there, I will talk to her in an hour or so.
Thanks for your comment.
@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
No, I did not hear it. But I am sorry about this situation you are going through. She told me that she was very proud to tell everyone in our chat site where we met that I was her boyfriend, and when I said that things have happened in the past, it made me question her some. But I just swept it under the rug.
I cannot allow it to go on, or I just might end up with an ulcer or worse... I just want her to be happy, but it is hard when I am not sure if I am. I am waiting online for her to show up now, so we can talk... I will keep you and everyone else posted. Thanks for you r comment.
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
17 May 12
Hi Cody as I read all of the responders above and your answers to them It seems your both fine now and she already clear up your question. I just wish you good luck when you visit here in my country. I'm a Filipina too and I know lots of friends who has a foreign fiancee too. I will not deny the thing that some Filipina are really looking for someone who are in the foreign country just to get out them from poverty and have a better life outside the country. Just a little piece of advice I don't want to judge anyone specially your girl. Just follow your heart when you see her on August, if you really love her you will accept her. I just hope she is really true to you.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
18 May 12
Yes, we are doing much better Lyn. thanks you for your concern, and I am happy about our talk. She means so much to me, even though we have never meet. I know this August will be GREAT!!!
Thanks for your response..
@shylade (3132)
• Philippines
14 May 12
Did you not doubt that lady friend who squeal about what they are talking about? Did she showed you proof that your fiancee indeed called you just a friend? If you trust your fiancee then talk to her about that. Open communication is very important in any relationship, you need to be true to what you feel and if you are in doubt then tell her how you feel. I do hope you can fix things out with her.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Very interesting to know that. I should have looked at both sides, but I guess I was too worried about my woundedness. I will have a talk with her once she gets online here soon. Thanks for your thoughtful insight..
@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Yes, I really love it here. It is a great place to be and I have many friends, as well. Looks like you are new, so I hope you enjoy it too. Welcome here.
Have a great stay in myLot.
@srikanth777ias (326)
• India
14 May 12
hey man you are enjoying a lot in mylot keep this enjoyment forever dear
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@Zer0Stats (1147)
• India
14 May 12
You know if they love you they smile a lot at the most stupid thing you do.Have you ever noticed her smiling at the stupid side of you?
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Ha! Yeah, she has. That is cool because that happened with our last chat. She was just being silly and I followed along...
It has happened quite a bit in the past, but not so much anymore. Thanks, Ill keep that in mind.
@jkct02 (2874)
• Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia
14 May 12
You can not make a decision on your 'fiancee' based on 2 words told by somebody else. It shows that the relationship that you have is very weak and fragile. Are you sure that she is the one that you want to be growing old together? How did you two become engaged in the first place - seeing you feeling so unsecured?
Anyway, don't assume. You must have a heart to heart talk with her to find out what she has in her mind about you two and your future. Sometimes people make mistakes unintentionally. It was just 2 words. She may not mean anything but you just read too much into it. Things may not be what you are thinking. Clarify it with her.
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@jkct02 (2874)
• Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia
14 May 12
I am happy to know that you have talked it over with her. I am not an expert in relationship but I believe that trust and understanding are among the most important ingredients in a successful relationship. And both have to be developed by getting to know more of each other over a period of time. 3 months in a long distance relationship is not that long actually. There are still a lot to need to find out, then only you could make an informed decision about anything. As for now, all that you know are just info on the surface. Don't rush into anything blindly.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
I am in agreement with you in that we are not to rush into anything blindly... I actually fell for her shortly after we met, but I didnt say anything until a month later when we were in the relationship.
Trust is THE most important thing in a relationship. I know that from my past.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hello, jkct02. Yes, I did talk to her last night. She told me the truth about it, and I told her I understood. It was because she has fears, I will not show up there. But I understand them. I will be in the Philippines in August.
Thank you for your comments.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
14 May 12
That is sad cody but one way to end this problem is to confront her, you might not like the end...or this just might be a misinterpretation, atleast you know the truth. Talk to her sincerely about it and talk from your heart.
I hope she is not being a scammer as it is pretty embarrassing for us Filipinos!
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Yes, I know you guys are somewhat looked down on, and not all are like that. Heck, we have scammers here in the USA. I will be getting a call from her in an hour or so.
But, even though I am a little worried, I had plans to go on a mission to the Philippines anyway. Thanks for your comment.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
14 May 12
Sorry to hear about this.
I have a friend who also found her love thru net and they are planning to get marry soon.
The guy already come here in the Philippines and we are happy for them.
In your case,the best thing you should do is ask your gf if she's really serious about your relationship.
There is no assurance in any relationship- unless proven.
Why not come and visit her to feel how sincere she is.
@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hello, jaiho2009. I will be going in August to see her, and for other reasons. I just found out why she said it, because she is worried that I will not show up. She always says things like, "well, we will see". But I really understand where she is coming from.
She has fears like I do, but as soon as I get there, I hope all will be ok.
Thanks you for your comments... Have a great day.
@lady1993 (27224)
• Philippines
14 May 12
maybe you can ask her about it, your fiance, maybe she was just scared that the people might judge her. Since that is the trend here, usually some girls just get foreign boyfriends for their money.. but there are some that are really in love. I hope you two can work it out.. good luck.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Thank you lady1993. I know what you are saying but her friend is a lady form the Philippines, who lives in another country. I will have a conversation with her in an hour or so, and I will get to the bottom of this. Thanks for your comment. Have a great day.
@annavi23 (6522)
• Philippines
14 May 12
I don't know what to say but are you really sure that you have understood each other that she wants to marry you?
You should try to talk things to her and be a man. you have to know the truth if she really loves you or not. you have to face her and tell her in your own little way how you really feel and tell her if you have to stop being with each other or what...
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hello, annavi23. Thanks you for your comment. I have had a discussion with her about this last night, and now I am sure everything is ok.
Her fear was that I would not show up in August like I promised her. I really do understand her fear, because I felt the same way. "what if we wont like each other when we meet", and I am just fine with her.
I will be there in August, regardless of what takes place with both of us. Have a great day.
@jennbart (1330)
• Philippines
14 May 12
Ask her what she meant by GOOD FRIEND. Only by that confrontation, you will learn and know how you are to her.You cant just keep it to yourself forever, how will you ever know what you are to her? If thats all you are to her, then atleast you can stop it right there and not waste time on her anymore and look for someone who will value you.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
I talked to her last night for two hours, and now I know her fears. It is because she has doubts I will be there in August. I will be there regardless, and it is for two reasons. Maybe three.
Her, Vacation, and for a mission trip to help out. But, I think things are worked out now. Thanks for the comment.
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
14 May 12
First of all I wonder if you are overreacting.
In my language there is no difference between the word: boyfriend and friend.
It also says nothing about having a (closer) relationship.
The word friend in my language also means: a male friend. So we do not use that word for a female.
I don't know how it is your gf's language?
Also there can be plenty of other reasons why she doesn't like to shout out through the whole world what you are or not are. This besides of the fact this lady already knew and a fiance is a friend (or boyfriend) too.
I don't understand why you want her to say or call you a fiance. We even don't use that word anymore. It's boyfriend (well in my language friend) unless you are married.
You can make a big scene out of nothing, look for reason and if you look long enough you will surely find a lot that doesn't make sense to you or give you doubts or whatever.
Personally I would not call you my fiance since it means nothing to me and you can dump me at any time. I wonder why you want to be her fiance and not just get married if you love her. What does that so called period of "fiance" means?
Also..skype is not a private discussion if you talk with more as one person plus you talk to someone who already knows both of you.
If you really want to know what is going on you better ask your gf or fiancee
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hello, WakeUpKitty. Well, no, I would not have posted this if I thought I was overreacting. Secondly, why would her friend tell me? Third, I dont recall ever saying that I want her to call me anything, other than a boyfriend and not just a friend. I guess I am a little old fashioned and I still use the term.
She told me last night that she was having doubts about our relationship, when I finally talked to her. She told me the truth of why, and now I understand.
It was because we are so far apart, and she needs to see me in person. This I kind of already knew, because I feel the same way. Skype has plenty of private discussions, and while she was talking to me, she was also typing to her friend.
Well I guess that goes a long way as to saying where a persons opinion of one self is, when they say things like, "Personally I would not call you my fiance since it means nothing to me and you can dump me at any time." Well, the idea is to get married, and I will be going to the Philippines in August.
Thank you for your comment.
@jureathome (5361)
• Philippines
14 May 12
Since you only heard it from her friend, it's best if you talk to her about it, seriously. You never know, her friend may be the one playing both of you.
Just ask her straight about it, not in a condemning way, but get her to explain why she would do such a denial about your supposed engagement.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hello, jureathome. I am online now just for that reason...I am trying to figure it out so, I just have been thinking about what to say. Thanks for your comment.
@JRJohnson (85)
• United States
14 May 12
Well, you not telling her what's on your mind is no way to help the relationship and it won't improve you as a person or a fiance for the next lady. If you can't or won't communicate with her openly and she can't communicate with you openly then your relationship was doomed from the start. Don't think of it as confrontation. Think of it as you growing as a person and being willing to be open and honest. You have to know the truth for your sake and hers. Perhaps you'll be feel relieved by having the truth revealed. Then, you can move on with your lives. Please, don't just walk away! You'll be doing both of you "wrong"!!!!
@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
I have had a conversation with her. Now we are doing ok. It was not a misunderstanding as a few people have said, she is having doubts about our relationship due to the fact we have not met in person.
I understand her side, but I told her I will be there in August. I promised her that I would be. I wont walk away, I just thought it was something different all together.
Thank you for your comment, and have a great day.
@GardenGerty (160883)
• United States
13 May 12
You will not know unless you ask her. Have you ever met her in person? Does she have you buy expensive things for her and send her money all the time? Then it might be a scam. On the other hand, it may be a cultural behavior, or even a modest behavior. My mom often referred to my first fiance as my "friend". You have to be brave and tell her that you have heard that she only refers to you as a friend and ask why that is the case.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hello, Garden Gerty... You are correct, and no, I have never met her in person. I have sent her money, but not expensive things. She has asked me for money a few times, and I am just trying to help her out, some.
I met her on a christian dating site, and after I asked her to marry me, I asked her to please change her profile as, "engaged" about 3 weeks ago...I looked at it today, because I very rarely look at it, and it has not been changed. Still says, " I am looking for a husband, and I hope I find him here..."
So, after seeing this, I am just positive she is not being faithful. So, I am glad I looked at her profile, and I am glad for your response.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
13 May 12
wow! how long have you been in a relationship with each other. it sounds like it is still quite new. this is a sign that perhaps you should put the breaks on things. i am not saying to break up with her, until you know what's going on. i am just saying that maybe you should take the relationship down a notch or two. she may not be ready and may not be able to tell you that she is not ready. or it may not be that.
me and my husband do fb together. i have a relationship status as married and so does he, we just don't tag each other in the relationship with other. this is because we try to keep a certain level of anonymity online. we have our reasons. maybe she just doesn't want anyone to peg her for who she is online. certain facts you give about yourself could lead someone to know who you are, if you want to be anonymous online. could this be the case?
in any event, i say you have to talk to her. you it's to serious to do your usual cold feet thing. trust me, you don't want to be married to someone who doesn't want to be married to you , just because both of you were to afraid to open your mouth. just ask her straight out. "why do you claim us as just friend online, baby"?. just say that you are curious and want to know because you are afraid it means she doesn't view your relationship the same way. see what she says now, because the long you wait is the more you won't get the answer before it's too late. good luck to you. keep us posted.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
We have been in one now for three months. That is true, because she is somewhat nervous, but her site profile says that she is looking for a marriage partner, still 3 weeks after I asked her to marry me.
I asked her to change it, like I changed mine, and she said she would, but it is still the same.
She is almost always showing "online" while we are talking, but as soon as we get done she goes, "offline" and I see it and ask her why. She will say things like, she is tired, and will go to bed. But I go to Facebook, and she will be posting things, and accepting friend requests when she says she is sleeping.
I will do just that.. Thank you for your comment, and I will keep my myLot family posted...
@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Hi, Manda. Thanks for answering my discussion, and You are correct. It is all about honesty, and being open.. thanks again.
@jonnifc (1017)
• Philippines
13 May 12
Sorry to hear that you are in a difficult situation. As with the others, I suggest you talk to her about it. Start by telling her that you found out she called you a "friend". Then ask her why. I don't think that you should just walk away without letter her know that she has hurt you somehow. It's best if you two talk about it first so at least you'll know both sides of the story. I would suggest that you talk to her about it on skype (or video call) so you can see her face and her reactions while you talk about it. Her facial expressions or actions may help you judge whether she is telling you the truth or not. I know you believe your relationship is worth the risk of a fight. Hoping for the best for you!
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Thanks you so much, jonnifc. You are correct, and it is worth fighting for. I did though find out something interesting about her dating profile on a site where we met.
I almost never look at it, and I looked today but it says, I am looking for a loving husband ... I asked her to marry me 3 weeks ago, and asked her to change it because I changed mine, but she still has not.
So, we will see where this conversation goes when she gets online... Thanks for your response.
@Dominique25 (9464)
• United States
13 May 12
You should talk to her about how you feel. Ask her how she views your relationship and what she tells people when she talks to them about you. I hope that she will be honest with you and either you can improve your relationship or move on and find someone who will care about you. Sorry to hear that you are going through all of that.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
I will my friend, Dominique. I will talk to her once I see her get online... thank you for your comment.
@Hazelme (647)
• United States
13 May 12
That's very sad and I understand you're heartbroken. I think the best thing you can do is to talk to her about it, if you love her and want to avoid getting hurt talk to her about it. Since you heard you can tell her why she said you were just a friend. If you don't confront her you're never going to know if she actually had a good solid reason why she said you were her friend. I knwo you don't want to confront her but honestly you should, because if you let it go right now you will let her get away with things if you guys end in a marriage.
Have a nice day and Cheer Up.
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
14 May 12
Thanks, Hazelme. I will cheer up soon enough. I am online now to see if she gets online, but nothing yet. I have left her massages in FB, and in skype telling her I need to talk to her.
I hope you are right that we are able to get it resolved before marriage. Thanks for your comment.