When do you forgive a friend who has gossiped about you?
By riempie9
@riempie9 (1021)
South Africa
May 15, 2012 9:44am CST
As with anything there are small sins and big sins, small grievances and big grievances. This is an in-between grievance and I can let it go, but it will destroy a friendship of forty years if I don't do something about it. Would you forgive a friend of forty years who listened to gossip and then passed on that gossip to others and created a bad image of me in my community?
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@rkennedee (333)
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16 Jun 12
before you jump into conclusion maybe you should make sure that it's really true. fourty years of friendship is no joke. maybe you should talk to her to fix and clarify thigs up. and if you have proven those things that you think about her maybe you should let her pay and teach her a lesson by putting things in a legal way. ask a legal advise regarding the punishment for this kind of actions so that you can prove everybosy in your community that all she is telling is a lie.
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
15 Jun 12
Well unfortunately no matter where a person goes, or lives, there will be people like this. Many times it could be someone who is jealous of you, or someone who may misunderstand what the real situation is, and once went looking for answers, and it got turned wrong, or just trying to do it to make themselves look better.
Personally I think your Best option if you have not already done so, is to have a little talk with this person and explain your feelings and thoughts and see if something better can be worked out. Let them know you are feeling upset and hope somehow, things will improve from here.
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@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
15 May 12
If it was a really good friend, of forty years, they would know that it was just that, gossip, and they surely wouldn't pass on the gossip about you. If anything, if it were a really good friend, they would be putting an end to it, not keep it going. The fact that it has created a bad image for you should tell you just what kind of friend they are. I don't like drama, and I don't like gossip, because gossip usually has nothing to do with the truth. It's just my opinion, but that friendship would be over for me if it went that far.
@tashh23 (115)
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15 May 12
Couldn't agree more with what @palonghorn mentioned in their above comment. Although it was a dumb thing for a 'friend' to do, it is deffinetely hard to just let go of a friendship, especially one of so many years. In a friendship or any relationship, it's not uncommon to have an argument or disagreement, in fact, it's healthy but I personally do not agree with the fact that your friend helped in the circulation of the gossip/rumor that gave other people a bad image of you. No matter what, even if you were in an argument with your friend, no ones friends should call a person down behind their back, give any false information to people or help in the circulation of giving other people negative thoughts about their friend.
Have you tried talking to your friend and maybe asking why they would do/say what they did. Just asking for the reason that you should always ask a person before accusing, therefore, giving them a chance to either be honest or lie & also tell you their side of the story because sometimes false accusations can ruin a beautiful relationship in life. If it were me, I'd ask the person about it and really consider the decision. I would choose one of these following things:
1. Stay friends, and move on with your lives, forgetting what happened.
2. End the friendship.
3. Forgive and forget or,
4. Talk to the person, ask them their side of the story/what happened, explain your thoughts and feelings on the situation and then you could maybe not give up the friendship completely, but don't talk to or be around the person for a while and maybe it'll make them realise that they had a good friendship and it'll give them time to think about what they've said/done and realise they almost lost a friend and then maybe once your friend figures out they were at wrong for hurting you like that, then maybe you could become friends and then that person may not take you for 'granted'!!!!
Just my personal opinion and ideas though. I really do hope things work out for the best for you both, it really does suck losing a friend. Happiness is the most important thing and you need to surround yourself with postive people, not negative ones bringing you down!! I hope your friend realises they made a mistake and if you stay friends hopefully they will treat you with the respect you deserve! Best of luck, wish you all the best!! :)
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@riempie9 (1021)
• South Africa
16 May 12
Thanks Tash for taking the time to write such a long letter. Here it is - what was said (and now I am gossiping, but will mention no names). I'm a writer and a filmmaker and cast her in my film. I wrote and directed the film and also played the lead. She was stunning in the film and was actually nominated for supporting actress. In Cape Town in the art community everyone knows who writes, who does sound, who does the music, who wrote the script, so on and so on. I know all these people and had some of the music done by a very good singer who did a beautiful Arabic song about God - very haunting and beautiful. The film was made on a shoestring budget and everyone knew what they would be paid. Everyone got paid; not very much, but got paid. She wanted to be cast in my second movie and I said to her that I was going to give another actress the part as she was very recognizable and my second film had a very different slant. She kept on and on and I got irritated. The gossip she spread was that the sound guy told her that I did not pay people to work on the film. My name was mud and I was even cited online and in the newspaper that I did not pay people. My second film is on hold for a year now because I am disgusted with some of the shenanigans in the film industry.
@albto_568 (1268)
• Costa Rica
13 Jun 12
Forgiving is always a hard thing to do, specially if we are really hurt, on the other hand, holding grudges will not do anything but embitter our own lives. I think that you can forgive, put aside and go on with your life, but, real forgiveness will come only if the other person ask for it, if she does not realize the damage she did, there will be always an obstacle between the both of you, regardless of your feelings thowards her.
Friendship, as well as trust, are like very valuable jars, once broken, you can glue them as lovingly and careful you can, but, somehow, there will never be the same.
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@ryanong (9665)
• Vietnam
16 May 12
It is a long long time in friendship. Better you guys should forgive and being in good friendship as previous time. It is worth to do it...
@blaqwynter (218)
• Canada
15 May 12
Well it sure goes to show you in the end who your true friends really are! Most people are only in it for themselves and no one else, or for popularity. They would rather have a million ''frienemies'' than that 1 true golden gem. I have had this happen to me countless times before, and I never looked at them as a friend again. In your case after 40 years of friendship, how do you know this person never deceived you before? To turn their back on you like they did, and marred your name in public in your own community... Come on.. MOVE ON! That's this person's loss! Karma does have its way of sneaking up on those who deserve it! This person will realize what they did wrong, and it would be far too late.
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@ladygator (3465)
• United States
17 May 12
That must be so upsetting!! I would have a really hard time getting over it and forgiving that person. But most I think that it would be nearly impossible to forgive to the degree that I would be able to keep company with them again. I mean I would think that just as I value a person that has been my friend for that length of time they would also value me. And that value would exclude creating a blemish to my character. I guess over time the forgiveness would come, but I think forgetting the hurt that it brought would prevent me from calling this person my friend.
Best to you.
@riempie9 (1021)
• South Africa
17 May 12
Just like we comment on answers and questions on this site and delete them, I do the same with people who disturb me. I check out. I am too busy to work out nonsense and once someone betrays me, I am gone. I have forgiven long ago. Remembering stuff like this is like an albatross around your neck. I just delete. Life is too short to waste it with friends who are envious.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
16 May 12
Me? No! A real friend would hear these lies and then get so upset that they tear the person a new one Way before I hear about it! They would put the liar in their place and then come and tell me! If this person didn't do this , then I don't care how long they have said they were my friend. They don't know what true friendship is. So no! I could never forgive them Ever.
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
20 May 12
with me it depends on what was said-but in some cases no.
i had one who tried to slander me because i refused to break a friendship with a mutual friend he was now pissed at.it wasn't my fight-and i wasn't going to be forced to comply.
sad,but oh well.the ironic thing is,neither are speaking to me now.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
15 May 12
A good friend of forty years wouldn't do such a thing, I would hope. However, depending on the story of what was gossiped about me, would depend on my continuing to be a friend or not. For it to disgrace me in the community that I live, it would not be easy to forgive. If they were a true friend they would not let the gossip keep going. They would put an end to it when it reached their ears. Or so I would hope so especially if it wasn't true.
@tashh23 (115)
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15 May 12
I also agree with @lelin1123. I myself, to end the friendship, would honestly depend on what was said. If it were disrespectful I could probably move on with it considering it was such a long friendship, but also because I tend to forgive to easily. BUT, if it were a degrading comment or just something unbelievable, that would probably be enough for me to say 'I don't need someone like you in my life bringing me down" especially when there are enough things in life & stresses to worry about other than a friend causing drama.
I also agree with @lelin in their previous comment about how a true friend wouldn't continue the gossip or keep the story going in any way. I know whenever I hear something about my friends that is untrue, I don't care if it makes me look stupid for saying something, but if someone said something to me about a friend and it was untrue or rude, I would set them straight by giving them either the actual facts/truth, or by telling them that what they are saying is completely not true and to not continue saying such things. - and I would hope my friends would do the same for me!!!
-This comment goes with my first one as well, so hopefully you read the first comment, that one should be of some help!! Good luck, I hope things work out for you!! & hopefully chat again soon in a future discussion :)
@sumanadep (1228)
• India
16 May 12
Well I would say that if that person is really a friend then he will not talk ill about you and if he gossiped then consider he is not your friend..
I would forgive him as he was just another common person.. who does not care about me..
@riempie9 (1021)
• South Africa
16 May 12
All these answers are good and spot on. You are right. The problem however is that it spiraled out of control at the time and the damage is lasting. Still I am over it now. I've moved on and hold no grudges. Once I am betrayed nothing can bring me back.
@megamatt (14291)
• United States
16 May 12
I think that it would be a breach of trust that it will take a lot of time to really just forgive most of the time. Friendships can take a long time to build and just a few short moments to utterly destroy beyond all known repair. That is really just a fact that we have to really deal with a lot of the time. It is rather scary but ti is the truth.
I don't know if I can bring myself to forgiven someone for doing something like that, not at least right away. It is easy to say that you should forgive, but saying and doing, especially with a huge breach of trust. I would demand explanation why they would do something like this. There would really need to be some kind of motivation. No matter how twisted it is, it is just something that I need closure with.
@freymind (1351)
• Philippines
16 May 12
Your friends with this person for forty years and yet this person marred your image in the community. Whether the gossip is good or bad, whether it be true or not, this person is a "friend". If I were you I would ask why... Why this happened and this person threw forty years of friendship. It could be that your friend has an inner jealousy towards you or you're the only thinking you're friends after all. Talking and asking for an explanation would be the start. Then if you're satisfied with the explanation that's the time you can think if the person is worth having in your life or the person isn't worth your friendship and forgiveness.
@riempie9 (1021)
• South Africa
16 May 12
You see I knew this friend was a gossip but she has such a great personality that I sometimes listened to what she said. I allowed it, you see, even though I had told her many times that I did not want to be part of the gossip. However we are not kids anymore and one must be grown up and know the outcome when you speak ill of others. I just feel bad that I was part of this and almost guilty that I shared it. I have outgrown this kind of nonsense. Thanks for sharing.
@sayo13 (414)
• India
16 May 12
hi friend,
well if the same thing happened to me, i would never forgive the person nor would have forget the incidence.yes i would not have break the friendship, if that person is immensely sorry for what he/she have done then i would not have break the friendship but yes it would never be the same as before.there would have surely some gap in between us.The person may have stayed in life but he/she may have lost some importance in my life.
i do not support the fact that there should be something more than your self respect. When your forty year friend is unable to give you the respect then i believe he/she is nor the worthy of the friendship at all.
i can understand how you are feeling, even i have faced this kind of thing in my life too.it really hurts.and hurts a lot.
@riempie9 (1021)
• South Africa
16 May 12
Thank you Sayo. I am over the hurt. It happened long ago. I have many friends, but I take long to have a special friend. Good friends don't grow on trees. And so I am between good friendships. All my friendships with men have been good. And I never have more than two or three good friendships although I see my other friends also. The peripheral friends don't know the secrets.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 May 12
Hello riempie9, I don't know maybe i don't think he is a good friend since they talk back at you. to be honest, i don't really talk back to friends that much, probably not the way other's do. but when i found out that from a friend of mine that our other friends talks back at me for a long time, that's when I stop talking to them. i didn't feel comfortable talking to them anymore nor seeing them.
@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
15 May 12
I think that for forty years, you and your friend probably know each pretty well inside and out. The gossip issue would surely cause an adverse effect on your friendship, and i hope a good heart-to-heart confrontation should be established in order to know the truth. 40 years is really a long time to clearly realize who your friends are and what they are made of.
@shylade (3132)
• Philippines
16 May 12
I can forgive that friend if ever but I can not trust him/her the way I did before. Trust is very important and once given you should be careful. Gossips really destroy relationships and people who do nothing usually make a lot of gossip. So better choose our friends and know them better before spilling confidential stories to them.
@cloud31 (5809)
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16 May 12
For forty years of friendship I think its long enough to know each other.And it will be good foundation of friendship for so many years.Gossips are just normal to friendship listen to others and then believed what other telling about his/her friend.
You were asking if I can forgive forty years friend who listened to gossip about you and passed to another and it creates a bad image of yours. Well, yeah I can forgive but as we all know,trust will never be the same again as it was before. A friend who listen to gossips and never try to know the real story then its disappointing.