What may be hidden in Obama healthcare bill, an Implantible RFID chip.
By EvanHunter
@EvanHunter (4026)
United States
May 16, 2012 6:32pm CST
I ran across this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJI01b8ir_4
thinking this must be just a spin on the wording I checked it myself at http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200ih/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200ih.pdf
This is the wording: ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary.
21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection, the Secretary shall promul23
gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1).
So I look up to paragraph 1 to see exactly what the device is and: Paragraph 1 Section B: 1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,
4 life-supporting, or life-sustaining.
So what type of device is a class II device that is implantable? RFID Chips. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_device
I have looked at websites that say this just covers lots of medical implants of which RFID happens to be in the same category. But the languages doesn't disallow it either, its vague enough that if they wanted to they could use it as an excuse. "Implantable RFID chips would be covered under the law, but that's simply because they are one of thousands of devices that are classified as Type III or Type II implantable" http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp I am not big on snopes anymore since I have found they have flat out lied about a few subjects but there are others websites that might make a better argument on how this doesn't cover it.
Would you ever consent to having a microchip implanted in you or your family? How do you feel about carrying a national ID card that has a RFID chip in it? I hate to mix politics with religion but I think I would have to refuse it even if it meant I was a criminal.
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@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
17 May 12
Very interesting indeed. However, it would still be years before they could really implement it even on a small scale. It would also open up a host of new problems most people can't imagine. The last thing I saw they are trying to make retail stores that use this technology to give you a no cash register experience, you shop and as you walk out the door, the scanner totals you're items then charges them to your RFID enabled bank card. It's new and fascinating right now, but it's really a novelty item. I think the next evolution is going to be cell phones that do things like this, however we're going to end up with too much our lives in our phones. Technology can be great if used properly, but don't do that, and it's becoming a huge detriment to us.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
17 May 12
"However, it would still be years before they could really implement it even on a small scale." - when the gears start grinding it never takes long at all for it to get cranked up. Look at the scanners in all the airports from order to finish it took less than a year and the underwear bomber is what pushed it through after they already had them on order.
"The last thing I saw they are trying to make retail stores that use this technology to give you a no cash register experience" - look at the other discussion I started. For $8 you can buy a reader and steal anyone's card number and ID and all their info just by getting near them.
@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
19 May 12
I missed that discussion, but that's exactly why it won't be implemented any time soon. It's really easy to make a fancy new thing like that. But it's just as easy it exploit it. It has to actually be relatively safe from tampering and as we advance in the technology age it gets a lot harder to make secure technologies.
EvanHunter
Wow creepy..who knew the book 1984 book was so close to what would be reality....@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
17 May 12
I have heard some people didn't take it as a warning but as a philosophy. With everything that is going on in the world today I think they are right.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 May 12
I agree that it doesn't mandate it, but it certainly allows for it and allows the government to get it paid for under the healthcare law. It's a small step to passing legislation that mandates it, or mandates it IF you want coverage and then it may be allowed because it is already covered in the existing law.
You are right not to trust Snopes, especially when it comes to Obama. They are totally in the tank for him and have actually changed pages and then scrubbed them to hide the evidence of the changes they made without posting it as a "correction".
No, I would not consent to an RFID chip implanted on my body and I would have serious problems with any chip-containing card.
If we don't start to take back our Constitutional rights immediately, it will be too late to stop things like this eventually taking place.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
17 May 12
As I said above all it takes is the right scenario and they will already have the law in place to implement it. As far as snopes I haven't trusted them since I found the page they lied about Saudis not being flown out of the country on days after 9/11, when the FBI admitted it and the story ran in New York Times. To my knowledge they still have never changed it. I think snopes has lost any integrity they had a long time ago and become a propaganda machine for dirty dealings by the government.
My BIL was showing me a show he tapped on TV about how they are even putting RFID chips into new tires so they can tell when you cross a toll booth. Not to mention DHS wants to have them in all forms of ID now. This is a good read: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/37/3721.asp
