Gay Genetics
By redhotpogo
@redhotpogo (4401)
United States
May 29, 2012 2:24pm CST
Anyone who is an expert in genetics please correct me if I am wrong.
According to the rule of genetics traits of a person come from their parents. Although some traits of the child may not be found in either parent. This is explained by saying that some traits come from earlier in the family, and skipped the parents, but showed up in their child. And if the trait cannot be found anywhere in the family then it is said that the trait is a mutation.
So if traits have to come from a parent or earlier in the family then the beginning of that family would have to have all of the traits that the present child has. This would be divided up between the first member of the mother's side of the family and that of the dad's. Being that no one can have many different eye colors it would mean that only one eye color in the family was true, and the rest mutations. The same with all the other traits. So most traits of a child or possibly all traits would be mutations.
It is also said that the stronger trait prevails. So when the mother supplies her genetic information and the dad does the stronger traits win. A stronger trait would be a trait that shows up most in a family.
But if this is true then the first person in the family would have to have all of these traits. Because if they only had one trait. Let's say brown eyes, then of course the dominate trait would be brown eyes, and it would get passed down throughout. The same with all the other traits. So every person would look and act exactly alike. Of course this too could be explained away with mutations.
So if someone is gay that would mean that the first person in their bloodline would have to be gay or there is a mutation somewhere in the family bloodline. Either in an earlier family member or in that person itself.
Let's look further at mutations.
Mutations are caused by radiation, viruses, transposons and mutagenic chemicals, as well as errors that occur during meiosis or DNA replication.
Mutation can result in several different types of change in sequences; these can either have no effect, alter the product of a gene, or prevent the gene from functioning properly or completely.
Due to the damaging effects that mutations can have on genes, organisms have mechanisms such as DNA repair to prevent mutations.
-source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation
Fortunately, mutations are very rare. They occur on an average of perhaps once in every ten million duplications of a DNA molecule (107, a one followed by seven zeroes). That’s fairly rare. Source: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cfl/mutations
Now let's go back.
In order for a gay gene to be passed the trait would have to be dominate. Either both mom and dad would have to be gay or one of them would have a strong gay gene.
So let's say the dad is the first of his bloodline and he is straight. In order for there to be a gay gene passed on the mother would have to have a strong gay gene in her family. If she was the first in her family's bloodline then the trait is less likely to get passed on. As the family bloodline progresses these weaker traits would get weaker and weaker making the possibility of passing a gay gene even more rare. But if the gay gene is stronger and does get passed on then it would show up more and more further along the family as the weaker ones are disposed of leaving the strongest traits. So the traits that are strongest today would have always been the strongest. Mutations would have no effect on this due to the rarity of gene mutations.
In order for a gay gene to be passed on the majority of the first humans in a bloodline would have had to have been gay. But this would go against the genetics of a person that are for reproduction and survival. This would tell you that a gay gene could not possibly be a normal genetic structure. It would have to be a mutation. But again mutations are very rare.
So in short a gay gene would be extremely extremely rare and would have to be a recently mutated gene. What would this mean?
Most people who claim they are gay are not. They choose to be gay. Or that there is no gay gene, and all gay people choose to be gay.
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6 responses
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
30 May 12
My thought process is illogical? How? Petersum read what I wrote. What part of that looks like I support a gay gene? Have you not heard that gay people say they are born gay. They say it is genetic. I didn't make the claim. They did. I am providing evidence against it from what I know about genes.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
30 May 12
These aren't my assumptions. These are things that I got from researching. See the links in my posts. I'm just repeating what I read.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
30 May 12
Yes. I know what it says in the bible. I'm avoiding using the bible as a reference because a lot of people aren't Christian like me, so of course they don't rely on anything from the bible. I am leaving religion out of it and only trying to use science. I am not an expert on this stuff. I just wanted to clear things up for myself based on what I have learned about genes. At this moment I am against gay genes or homosexuality being anything but a choice, but my mind is open. Maybe someone can convince me that I am wrong. If I'm wrong. I'm wrong.
@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
30 May 12
I think there was this one that was in an article. That there is indeed a gay gene that everyone should know about and some bloodlines do have e'm and it can be passed on to generations. I think when there is truth to this, it will eventually be proven and disproven if not - we can only guess about the validity of the claim, i am sure this might have been started to prove that the possibility of gays originating from our genes itself is true... that it did not pop out of the environment, of the peers, and so on.
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@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
30 May 12
i am torn between the both of these, if being gay is the person is born with it or if they are led to be one because of the environment. I mean, i do know this person who was really a guy back in high school. no signs at all but when he went to college and suddenly all his classmates were sort of gay and women... the next thing we know he is already acting gayish and when he worked for a production company.. he totally went out and declared he is gay. my brothers were so surprised as we almost grew up with him and his family... he did not looked gay at all.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
30 May 12
The reason why you are seeing more gay people is because more of them are admitting to being gay because they can now without being beaten down. If you think about back when it was "not ok" to admit you were gay, that rare gay person that you may have known was shunned and made fun of. No one would "choose" to be gay. Even in todays world, they suffer for it. It isn't something they want but they just are. Just let them be.
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@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
30 May 12
In my own personal experience the bullies are mostly gay. Maybe I just grew up in a gay town or something, but there was a lot of gay people bullying people. They didn't like me because I was poor. I don't feel sorry for them. But at the same time I don't want people to attack them. Everyone should leave each other alone. I just wanted to have a conversation about genetics. I didn't mean to single gay people out, it's just the first topic I decided to use. I have a lot of other genetic discussions to talk about too.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
30 May 12
This is just not true at all. I don't believe there is a "gay" gene. More recent research has shown that there is a strong and clear difference inthe gay brain as opposed to the straight brain. I'll give you a link here but there are many and it makes for some very interesting reading. Is it absolute proof? NO. They have further research to do but it makes more sense than the genetic theory.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1815538,00.html
@thresholdofreality (119)
• Philippines
30 May 12
Nature vs Nurture. Are gay people gay because of their genes, or are they gay because of the environment they grew up in? Nature vs Nurture is the age-old debate of social science, and to this day, it hasn't been solved yet. Upon reading your insights, you are clearly on the 'Nature' side of the debate, and you do provide a sound hypothesis. I wish I can provide a better answer, but there's no answer just as to why there are gay people yet.
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