Where Will You Put Yourself In This Situation?

@neildc (17239)
Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
June 3, 2012 8:09pm CST
Hiya myLotters and friends! At first, I asked, "How can anyone live in lies? How they continue to keep the truth from their loved ones?" No one answered and I guess they only have overlooked me. Now I want to know from all of you, how could you possibly help me with this situation: [i]My wife told me before, that if I have to tell her something about her daughter that could possibly hurt her, I just keep it to myself. Lately, before Joan was able to get the job (actually, I missed to post about her entry to the office almost a month ago), her mom keep telling her to end the relationship with the guy from the province. And daughter replied that she already did. But every time wifey is on Facebook, she keeps seeing Joan's profile picture, with the guy. That always keep her angry and will tell daughter to replace the picture if they really had split-up already. Recently, during our break in the office, I asked daughter the same question. She seemed to be surprised when I asked her, and she replied, "Yes, we're still on."[/i] I really don't know where to put myself. ~~ NEILâ„¢~~
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@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
Oh such a dilemma you are in. I don't think she will ever break up with that guy and she will just continue with the lies. Youth nowadays don't want to be dictated. She seems to be in a rebellious stage and i think she will continue to be like that. She thinks she's misunderstood.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
4 Jun 12
toniganzon it is advisable for parents to accept the daughter's choice as otherwise she will go away from you now itself instead of her leaving after marriage. sorry. pray to god that the relationship should be smooth.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
hi toni. youth nowadays are really so hard to understand. even how much we sacrifice for them, to give them better lives, they still get so stubborn, never listen. if only she can see the future. one thing more, my wife is someone we know, and i guess daughter also knows, that can predict and have a very good sense when it comes to relationships and even with a person. ravisivan, you are a parent and when you can sense that your child is tracking a bad path, won't you pull him away from that road and lead to a better and smoother track?
• Philippines
9 Jun 12
parents always have a good intuition on people specially with relationships their children may go to. but still she is just so ... i don't know neil.. why is she like that? you did and have provided her well. i pray to God that maybe soon the well see the good thing her parents have given her.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
4 Jun 12
neildc your daughter is telling a life about her relationship. possible. she would have told the opposite to get over the situation with her mother when mother confronted her. Facebook is becoming a source of info for families. yes. in India a man has asked divorce quoting facebook wherein his recently married wife has posted pictures of herself with other boys in different postures. Facebook helps/facebook disturbs.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
hi ravisivan. is it really "telling a life" or "telling a lie" about her relationship? we know about Facebook, how it becomes a good source of information, and even how it helps the authorities in solving crimes. but it's not really about Facebook that I am trying to talk about here, but the relationship of my wife and her daughter and how to keep secrets or telling lies.
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
Hi Neil! What could be the reason why your wife is asking your daughter to end the relationship with the "guy from the province"? What is her reason for not wanting the relationship between your daughter and that guy? How about you? What is your take in this relationship? Are you in favor of the relationship or not? I think that you should tell your wife what she needs to know. How you will tell her about it will be important. Besides, I know that your wife knows that the daughter and the guy from the province are still very much "in a relationship". If Joan is already working, that means she already is in the right age to make decisions for herself. I believe that you should give her that freedom to make choices on her own. At her age, its safe for me to assume that she is very much responsible for her actions. So give her the benefit of the doubt, enough freedom to make her own decisions, and allow her to be responsible and accountable for her actions.
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
Yeah i truly think so, she had been in the relationship of this guy for a while now. to be honest i think she should be given a chance to live her life. otherwise, she will keep lying to herself and the family for a very long while. she is working and i hope she gets to save money, otherwise, she will end up being broke if she doesn't spend it wise or save it.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
hi dolce. personally, i also do not want her to continue with the relationship. the boy is very well known in the place as a repeater in school. i do not exactly know why he remains in high school with his age i also do not have an idea. i heard from neighbors that the boy is a frequent internet cafe addict and there are also talks about him being a user and a drinker. not to mention how closed my wife and his mother from their childhood days, my wife very well know how their family is. i have doubts in the past, that they probably meet frequently during school days or weekend. i even have some evidences that can prove there could have happened, something serious between them, that i thought i could have showed my wife. but since she said, if the evidence could only hurt her, better keep it to myself. and that's one thing, in this new situation, i have draw-back, to tell her what her daughter confessed me. She really is working now. But it's one thing that also makes me feel uncomfortable, as we work in the same office. It's something that we know something that we are not telling my wife which in a sense, she should know. it's something that makes me feel i am being unfaithful with my wife. Decisions, responsible for her actions? I can give her that and everything including freedom, but not, i guess, in the same roof where rules and regulations must be for parents and not the children to make. letran, if you're the parents, will you let your daughter work and live life with a high school boy? will you allow your daughter to be spending her time and money with an irresponsible man?
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
Wow that is quite something. may i ask why your wife does not like the guy? if your daughter loves her...then you should accept it right?
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
we really do not want to interfere with the relationships our children will get into. personally, all i wanted is for me to get to know their sweethearts. i always tell them to bring them to the house so we can meet. i always wanted to know their love interests so we can also know who their families are. it's as simple as that, right? but with this daughter, getting to know is not necessary, with respect to the family. as my wife and the boy's mother were very closed friends during their childhood. the problem is the boy himself, as he is an irresponsible person. as of this moment, our daughter is already working but the boy is still in high school when the age gap is only about two or three years, daughter's older than him.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
i heard that the boy is a bit younger than our daughter. maybe two or three years younger. but 17 is not anymore for high school and he should be in college already. one thing that made me decide to recommend her to our chief to get the job here is for her to feel that i am always on her side and do not think the otherwise.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
ohhhh that is why your wife totally do not like the guy as i would also because if we think of the future that guy would not be able to give her a better future.... tsk tsk. why is he even still in high school at that age? your daughter i believe is already around early 20s right? therefore the guy is also around that age.... maybe it is time you talk to your daughter about it but do not say negative stuff maybe she should just be careful as she may be used by the guy... or well let her just go with it and see for herself what will happen just let her know you both are at her side..
@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
29 Jun 12
When it comes to love life, as long as our children are matured enough, the only thing parents can do is to advise and talk our children diplomatically. In the case of your daughter and her mom, you never told why your wife wanted the relationship of your daughter and her boyfriend be broke up. No matter what she (your wife) would do for as long as they still love each other the more your daughter would love and pity her boyfriend. You can't stop people being deeply in-love with each other.As what they said, you can stop the herd of cows but you can't stop exploding love... Remember the saying that goes " if you want something there are so many ways, but if you don't like there are so many reasons and alibis " Are you both parents can monitor your daughter 24/7? How many hours will she spend outside and how much time she spend in the family. Think it over my friend, try to talk with your daughter and talk first your wife what are the consequences if she would not really talk and advise her daughter nicely. Don't get me wrong my friend, we parents have no right to interfere the feelings (love) of our children. We only have the right to advise, show the consequences, the disadvantages if they will not listen to us. This doesn't mean am the side of your daughter, am at the middle. What will you do if you're at the situation of your daughter or the side of her boyfriend being a gentleman?... Nice day ahead my friend... Mobhomeir here 062912 0736hrs
@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
6 Jul 12
Oh sorry for that I guess I miss that post. Well, hope you will not get me wrong my friend. It is not that I am interfering family's affair. Based on some of my experienced and encountered same case like yours, lots of relations being broken, family members being broken, anger and some untoward incidents happen in terms of feelings are being touched and yet in the end the neglecting parents is the loser because their children elope. I hope and pray this would not happen in your family. What I think is the best idea for you both (your wife) would be to talk to your lady, explain to her what would be the consequences if she will go on with his present boyfriend. If you couldn't convince your girl and show force to separate them, try to anticipate what would be the result. If your girl can't separate abruptly her boy give her time and space. I hope your daughter would understand your side. Good luck. Mobhomeir here 070612 0912hrs
@mtrguanlao (5522)
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
Hi neildc! It's really a tough situation you are in. I wouldn't know at once too what to do and what is best. I know that there are some things better left unsaid but we should also consider some things and situations and think what could be the outcome if we just keep it to ourselves. You are lucky that your daughter told you the truth and not tell your wife about it. Your wife is matured enough to face things that would might hurt her. If you don't tell her,I'm sure in time she will still discover it. Talk to your daughter. Tell her that she needs to tell her mom the truth and not lie to her. I think it would be better if you will uplift your daughter from telling her mom like I know your mom doesn't want your bf but I'm sure in time she will learn to accept him 'cause you love him that much.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
hi mtrguanlao. it's really a tough situation and so far, i still have no idea what to do. i know my wife very well. and i know our daughter knows her mom too, very well. but even me hesitates some times if i have to talk or even start talking with her. with regards to giving reminders and advices, i know it's only part of being a parent. it's only for them to believe and follow. but we don't want our children to suffer later with their bad decisions. i just hope children won't blame us parents when they come to that situation.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
4 Jun 12
I don't know what to tell you, if your wife said she didn't want to know maybe it is better you don't tell her. I don't know what to say it is tough situation.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
it's really a tough situation. seems like i am being stuck between two mountains. and i can't help to feel i betrayed my wife in this situation.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
11 Jun 12
Hi Neil, Just do what you know to be the right thing. Your wife was wrong to put you in the position of not telling her things that would hurt because she would then berate you if she finds out later. You and your wife should stand together in these matters but your wife turns a blind eye and somehow blames you when something is wrong. You cannot win so just do what you believe is right. Good luck.
@ElicBxn (63595)
• United States
4 Jun 12
In this case I would tell Joan that she needs to be honest with her mom. On the other hand, chances are that the more she tries to make Joan break up with the guy the more she's going to stick with him. So, you might try saying something to your wife about how you heard that parents that try to force a child to stay away from someone is more likely to make them more loyal to that someone and not saying anything, no matter how angry it makes her, might get better results.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
i know it will only make her stick with him if we will frequently tell her how we, especially her mother, dislike the boy. what we only ask from her is to be honest. i also know it is not necessary to tell her about parents being strict as it even came out from her mouth, and even told me to keep the trust, as if we parents do not have trust in her, worse might get worst with our daughter.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
4 Jun 12
i honestly would have a hard time with that one. Telling your wife that her daughter is still with the man that she obviously dislikes if she wanted them apart and the FB photo upsets her...would probably cause problems - upset and anger...as well as damage their relationship because she would know her daughter is lying to her...and not being the one to tell the truth. That being said...if she ever found out you knew and kept it from her she would probably be quite upset with you for keeping that secret. I think in the end i would tell her that I suspect they are still together and that she needs to sit down and talk to her daughter. It makes me wonder about the daughter - telling her mom one thing and you another. Does she think that you guys dont talk? or did she forget that she told her they broke up? OR did they break up and get back together and...shes scared to tell her mom?
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
i find it really difficult for me. it seems that i am being unfaithful with my wife too. but of course, it is not the way it is. one of the problem here is how my wife will react if she knows that i know about their relationship and i did not tell her. and i do not know how will i depend myself. like i have mentioned here before, one time i got a hold of some evidences that will probably make her daughter can't deny with her lies. i told her about it, if she wanted to see the evidences. she told me, if that would only make me hurt, don't. so from then on, i keep those files and information. but it's hard for me to keep secrets, especially when it involve the children. sometimes i will tell her how i feel, when daughter has to leave and go with her friends. that probably, she will be with the guy. my wife told me, how could daughter feel when she thinks no one believes her. so i let go. i mean, i let my feelings with myself. i keep my doubts with me. probably, at that time, she would like to believe herself that i won't talk, which at this time, i still have worries. if i can talk or how long i can keep it. but actually, when i asked her and she replied with "yes, they are still on", she added that at the time her mom asked her and said no, they really broke-up. i still have a doubt.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
10 Jun 12
I'm confused here. The daughter is an adult, no? Then why would either of you tell her to break up with someone, their relationship is their business. I am sure the daughter is claiming she broke up with him because she doesn't want to listen to her mother whine about it, and perhaps she tells you the truth because she knows you WON'T whine about it. I don't know. I have two grown kids and I can tell you that I neither tell them whom to be involved with or whom NOT to be involved with, as it's not my call. My take is that people should not feel compelled to HAVE to lie about things because people should not be trying to force people to change or do something they have no interest in doing. If it were me, I would keep my mouth shut and if my wife complained, I would mention that her daughter is an adult and it's none of her business. Just my two cents.
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
Hello Neildc, I remember this situation on our parents when my brother's started having relationships with women my mom didn't like. she did admit that she didn't like them, but my brother's were persistent and not for a long while, my mom finally accepted them. In the end, they realized how good my mom is and definitely not the people to be messed with. As for your situation, she got a job and have a relationship. i think your wife should just accept it, since she has grown up already. . she lied probably not ready to stand up to him and not for her mom worry.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
Question is, why does the mother want her daughter to break up with the boyfriend? Is there a good reason why they should break up, this should be explained to the daughter. Besides, the daughter's age is not mentioned her, so we don't know if she is really old enough to be reasoned with. If she's old enough, it should be explained to her why she needs to break up with the boyfriend, it would be unfair for her to just break up with him for no reason other than she is just told to do so.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
4 Jun 12
i am not sure about the boy's age but our daughter is almost twenty now. while our daughter is already working, the boy is still in high school for years. being so closed during their childhood, my wife knows what kind of people the boys have. i am not against the kind of people thing as it's not the family that our daughter will be living together, if ever, but the boy. and i feel she do not deserve irresponsible and childish man. by the way, if i am right with my recollection, our daughter is about two years older than him.
• Philippines
9 Jun 12
neil my friend. i have been away... didn't notice so much dilemma again with your daughter. well, what can i say teenagers now a days, just always gives us headaches.. we just don't know where to put ourselves. but please just do the right thing. i still don't know what it is. but i hope that whatever decisions you may make ... will bring a good result. i just hope she will just tell the truth to her mom. or may i know the reason why your wife do not like that guy? in what reason?
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
4 Jun 12
Guess I would tell her to fess up to her mom herself about still seeing the boy you cant as you was told not too cause then you would hurt wife let daughter do o that
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
6 Jun 12
Hi nel, how old is your daughter? I know the feeling of your wife and how would she react if she will know the truth. I don't believe that your wife don't want to know what happened to her daughter maybe it is only a word of mouth and not sincere. Your the one can help it with it just explain to her that her daughter is old enough to choose who is the one she wants to be with. Teenagers now are very rebellious specially if they don't understand us, simple guidance is a very big help to them. Like what you said she already told you the truth and I hope you already told her some good advice and guidance. Telling lies is not healthy in a relationship. Just be true to her I hope she will understand.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
4 Jun 12
Well it seems to me in this situation that your wife will eventually get tired of the photo and may ask herself, if she really wants to know, if the daughter and the boy are still together. If she doesn't want to know she won't ask. Your wife is surely a smart woman and must suspect it at any rate.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
5 Jun 12
I would make sure that your wife really wants you to talk to her about this daughter or does she just want to vent her frustration? If she just needs to vent, then all you need to do is listen. Keep in mind that whatever is happening now, the relationship with your wife is what you want to save. Try to keep the communication clear between the two of you.
• India
5 Jun 12
Hello my friend neildc Ji, I think, now a days very thin layer is being established even among husbands and wives which is very fdangerous to their relationship. Probably daughter must have told Mom the way Mom wanted , but kept her relationship alive. Let them live happily, if so they desired. May God bless You and have a great
@kukueye (1759)
• Malaysia
5 Jun 12
One lie lead to another lie to bigger problems. - Maybe be silent and not commmit
SOmetime lie is needed to live in peace with other people , i guess if every sons and daughters tell the truth , many families will exploded in scandals and such.As long as the lie is to protect and minimize damage i guess it is ok.HOwever , there is a major flaw because the human who made those decisions are usually in big pressure and one lie will lead to another lie and small problem will become big problem.Maybe put little truth in the lie to made it better?