Your experience with an ‘converting’ atheist?
By Frederick42
@Frederick42 (2024)
Canada
June 6, 2012 11:50pm CST
Have you ever come across an atheist who tried to ‘convert’ you? Was he intolerant? What actually did he say?
Did he just share his views? Did he only tell you that people need to think about their beliefs and question them or was he rude and disrespectful?
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4 responses
@ChandraNalaar (76)
• United States
7 Jun 12
As an atheist myself, I don't try to convert anybody...a lot of what I like about atheists is that they /don't/ insult you and tell you that their way is the only way...in my opinion, people with religion are a lot more intolerant and rude than people without. I believe that religion as a whole was just a scary bedtime story for the people of the world; something the rich and powerful created to keep people in line, and something created to keep everybody from killing and stealing and using all the resources. But everyone is entitled to their own beliefs! They just need to examine them strongly, why they believe the things they do.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
7 Jun 12
Because I entered this discussion under religion, I just wanted to say that I actually agree with everything you said except one thing. I am not a fan of religion and you are correct in saying religions of the world have been very abusive of power. Yes, everyone can belief what they want, so true. I like very much how you have expressed yourself.
My only disagreement is on the subject of conversion. We can't really help doing that. As soon as we open our mouths I mean everyone, anyone, we do influence others to what we believe which you just did when you expressed your beliefs which in my opinion were correct.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
7 Jun 12
Respectfully, you have every right to say you are an atheist. By doing so you are expressing what you belief to be true. If you fight for what you believe in, you can not really say that the other person might not change their mind.
If we got to know each other, I think it is possible we might find that we agree on much more than what we disagree on, though we do have differences of opinion, I’m sure.
In my experience, people that don’t debate, argue or give opinions are more open minded than those that do. True? We all have beliefs and opinions and I think discussing them is really wonderful.
When we express a belief it is doing more than saying, “I wonder what the weather will do today.” A belief is, “it is going to rain today.”
As the local weather person (or neighbour who heard the weather report) telling a person why we think something, is in actually professing a belief. We are saying what we believe and perhaps this is why we believe it. You can not help convert someone’s thinking if you convince them you are right..
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@ChandraNalaar (76)
• United States
7 Jun 12
I believe there is a difference between conversion and expression of opinions... Obviously everything we say and do influences people, but I can say "I'm an athiest, and this is why," and it's a lot more polite and respectful than "I'm an athiest, and you should be too, because I say so." Don't you agree?
I've come to terms with my beliefs being at odds with other people...Even when I fight with my grandmother and my boyfriend about religion, I'm not trying to actively make them believe as I do, because it's just not going to happen. I consider it more of a debate that allows us to know each other better.
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@reploid (1371)
• France
7 Jun 12
Well, I consider myself as an atheist and of course I make it clear to people that they should think about their beliefs. It is obvious to the thinking man that religion was created to control people massively. I made a lot of research about religion. People have created all kind of gods, and will create new ones in the future. Osiris and Jesus have the same story. This is what I call copy-paste. I am not being rude, and I respect those who believe in what they have read or heard. But I sincerely do not believe in religion, which is a tool for the elite to control people all over the world. I think this is the biggest crime against humanity and also a form of disrespect to our intelligence.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
7 Jun 12
One experience I had was both enlightening and horrible. One person in my past was actually an admin of a forum site I had joined, so this fact left me at a great disadvantage. He was in control, rude and insulting to me. However, as long as I posted it fueled the fires and it became obvious that abuse of power and dominance over me was an act of winning the war against what this person defined as “religion.”
For myself it was never centered around religion but how the attacks were targeted directly at God. God was described as a monster, murder and responsible for anything bad in the world by this particular person. I did become personally infuriated because I love God with all my heart.
It was all somewhat of a contradiction. Here was someone denouncing, criticizing, blaspheming, sending hate at God and at the same time declaring that he did not believe in God. It was like punching at the wind.
What was enlightening, was I began to realize that atheism was a religion too. I think it is by acts, a tool satan is using. It is a very old religion that has a common belief for all that evangelize it's conviction (God does not exist) and does focus on many religious topics with a purpose to convert. A lie is to hide the fact it is a religion though the anti-God, of atheism is very apparent.
I do encourage everyone (every person with any belief) to examine their beliefs and to discuss them. People do need to understand however that when anyone does “talk religiously” to try to convince the other they are right, we are preaching because this is what that word does mean.
Because of my experience, I do suggest for anyone not to engage in religious arguments that are detrimental to their own personal peace.
@riempie9 (1021)
• South Africa
29 Jun 12
I don't know any atheists; only those who are confused about God. I was never approached by atheists, but was a hot target for born again Christians where the heat was on to try and convert me. I was dating a man who felt so guilty about buying a new television as the under deacon and leaders of his church would be waiting for their payment and he was so under their power that I believed they were a cult. He brought his pastor with him one night to try and convert me, and I brought an Imam to answer his questions. I dropped him because he could not wait to die and meet the Lord. He was beyond help. I am still his friend and he is still waiting as he goes through life working as a fireman. I dropped him as he could not speak of anything else except how many people he could convert in a week. He is a nice guy, though. I told him laughingly that I was UNconvertible - not even an English word.