On Atheist..What do you think?

Indonesia
November 21, 2006 11:35am CST
If there were no God, there would be no Atheists. The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.
15 responses
@nichjake (523)
• United States
21 Nov 06
Where do you get the idea that if there were no god there would be no atheists? If there were no religions then there would be no need for Atheists. Being an Atheist I would also have to disagree on your idea that the worst moment for an Atheist is there is nobody to thank. The worst moment for me is when a "friend" finds out I'm an Atheist and then tells me I'm going to hell and procedes to call me all sorts of foul names and then never speaks to me again. When I'm thankful there are plenty of PEOPLE to thank, no need for "god".
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• Indonesia
21 Nov 06
Thanks for the response. I really appreciate it. It's so simple. A-theist means the absence of God (Theist). So you must believe there is God then deny that there is God. If there's no Theist (God) then no atheist. Thankful is for God only.
@nichjake (523)
• United States
21 Nov 06
Thats like saying the easter bunny must also exist even though we deny its existence. I see where you're coming from now but I think its a flawed argument. With my belief system god is nothing more than a fictional character, like santa claus or the easter bunny. We know fictional characters do not exist so there is no debate on their existance, they simply don't. The only reason why there are atheists is because the popular belief is that god exists (theists). If the tables were turned and most people believed that god didn't exist we would even be having this conversation.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
That's different. It's unclever logic. How could you make an easter bunny parallel with God? No easter bunny in the beginning but there's God in the beggining of the world. It's not a popular believe. Maybe atheist is a popular believe now. But God is still in every people heart. Why? It's a sense of Deity.. But Atheist deny it.
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@kurpix (607)
• Indonesia
21 Dec 06
i think, Atheist isn't believe in God. according to me, a man being Atheist means he doesn't have any religion in his life. but he still believe in God, not in trust, but believe God's existence. and because he doesn't have any religion, so he never thankful to Him :) well, it's my opinion about it. please, don't feel bother with it!
@Tanya8 (1733)
• Canada
22 Dec 06
Hi Kurpix, I realize you were just posting your opinion, but it's factually incorrect. Athiests do not believe that gods exist at all, and most think of them as a concept invented by man. It is also possible for atheists to practice a regligion, for example Buddhism does not involve worshiping a god. As for trust, atheists do have relationships with other people built around trust, just like anyone else. I'm not sure what the original poster means by existential atheism. The existential philosophers were atheists, but you don't commonly hear the two terms linked, or hear athiests referring to themselves as existentialists. My impression of the writers associated with existentialism is that they were going through a grief process as they came to terms with the realization that the God beliefs they'd been raised with didn't make sense. Athiesm isn't all about doom and gloom. Most of us are quite happy.
• Indonesia
21 Dec 06
Actually, there's different types of Atheist. I'm dealing with the the existential Atheist, I don't know if it's a good definition. Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it.
@kurpix (607)
• Indonesia
22 Dec 06
you're welcome! thanks for ur appreciate!
@queenstan (383)
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
I agree with you. Maybe some Atheist also said Thank God:) They must have a sense of deity, but they deny it.. Atheist is the denial of humanity. Because we have an eternal soul that someday must be back to our Creator. So, the denial of God is the denial of humanity.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
I always admired atheists. I think it takes a lot lot lot of faith.
@valmiki9 (1171)
• India
22 Nov 06
An atheist is a blind person who cannot see god in himself
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• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
Thanks for the opinion. I really appreciate it. I always admired atheists. I think it takes a lot of faith.
• Indonesia
25 Nov 06
how pity... btw, it's our (Christian) duty to reach them n tell them the truth....
• Indonesia
27 Nov 06
Yup..that's true.. Thanks for the opinion. I really appreciate it.
• United States
30 Nov 06
I think that is slightly moronic about having no one to thank, I am atheist and I thank what actually caused it not some guy who is supposed to be so great and has no actual proof of existence.
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• Indonesia
21 Dec 06
Actually the discussion is not only a simple discussion. I mean, I want to talk about the existence of man. Where was man come? If Atheist thinks man came from nothing, then if you thank to a guy who came from nothing, then you thank to nothing...It's different if you thank to the Creator...He is everything...
@canadabis1 (1952)
• Canada
22 Nov 06
I have plenty of people to thank...thank my gf for standing behind me for support...my son for putting more joy into my life than anyone or any god could ever.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
Thanks for the opinion. I really appreciate it. But where did your girl friend and your son come from and where will they go? I think, you will answer: NOTHING... So you thank for NOTHING... What do you think?
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
Thanks for the opinion. I really appreciate it. But where did your girl friend and your son come from and where will they go? I think, you will answer: NOTHING... So you thank to NOTHING... What do you think?
@Tanya8 (1733)
• Canada
24 Nov 06
"I always admired atheists. I think it takes a lot of faith." Some other people have already answered the original question in the same way I would have, but I wonder if you could explain what you mean by atheists needing a lot faith to NOT believe in God. According to the evidence available to us, brains develop when a lot of conditions are right in a universe that has already been around for a long time. In our case they developed long after our sun and planet were created. It seems non-sensical to stick a mind outside the beginning of the universe. They're complex organs that take time to develop.
@Tanya8 (1733)
• Canada
29 Nov 06
Because we know a lot about how brains work, and we have lots of evidence to support the idea that minds don't exist without a supporting structure. We also have a lot of evidence to support evolution, and that simple creatures pre-date complex ones. I'd say it takes a tiny bit of faith to be an athiest (the same amount of faith I have that, if I let go of an object I'm holding, it will fall).
• Indonesia
29 Nov 06
You believe to all evidences..wow.. You must have a big faith to believe to all the evidences.. We need a big faith to believe to sciences that always changing...Wow I really admire someone like you...
• Indonesia
27 Nov 06
How could you so sure that the brains has develop long after the sun and planet were created? I think it takes a lot of faith. That's the reason...
@wiseper (787)
• Philippines
22 Nov 06
i had a chatmate once. he was an atheist. he was more concerned with the stars and the position of the stars than in anything else. he was nice. kinda weird but nice. we were good friends, but then i changed YM ID and i couldnt get in touch with him already. pity. he was a very sensitive man.
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• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
Thanks for sharing it.. I really appreciate it. We are the very sensitive human.
• United States
21 Nov 06
When something ood happens that person can thank either themselves for it happening or thank goodness. Sometimes though goodness has nothing to do with it. Also if there were no people there would be no god. If we were not around to think god up then there would be no god.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
If there is no God, than man is created out of nothing. THen you thank to man man that out of nothing. It means you thank to nothing. If you thank to goodness. What is goodness? Where does it come from? From God? No..from nothing? Yes..Then you thank to nothing. That's the reason of my word.
• United States
22 Nov 06
That is true if you think god created us. I do not beleive that though and just like everyone else we really do not know who what or how we were created.
• United States
22 Nov 06
think about that in the exact same logic, except reverse.. if there was no God, there would be no us to not believe or believe in him
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@xtinelee (3371)
• Singapore
22 Nov 06
Why would it be the worst moment? Thank ourselves..cos it was US who earned it all, not God who given it to us.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
Thanks for the opinion.I really appreciate it. You thank to yourself??? The creation must thank to his Creator. Where do you come from? Why do you still alive and could earn some money? It is because of yourself? Do you made your life? If you thank to yourself then you thank to nothing..Because you will die and you are nothing...
• Philippines
22 Nov 06
Atheism is actually a disbelief in the existence of dieties. Common atheists are skeptical about the empirical evidence for spiritual or supernatural claims. They cite a lack of evidence for the existence of dieties. They tend to accepted secular philosophies such as humanism, naturalism, and materialism. They do not adhere to any one particular ideology nor have institutionalized rituals or behaviors. BY the way, I have attended a talk on ATHEISTS wherein the speakers are atheists. They say that atheist doesn't believe that there is a supreme being but they believe that Jesus Christ have lived as a human being.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
Thanks for the information. That's great. I really appreciate it.
@Gahagan (143)
• United States
22 Nov 06
There is always someone to thank... and by someone I don't mean god.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
We were created by the Creator. The Creator is the first Cause, we don't need to ask where God come from. Because He is the source.
• Indonesia
22 Nov 06
If there is no God, then man is created out of nothing. Then you thank to man that is out of nothing. It means you thank to nothing.
@Gahagan (143)
• United States
22 Nov 06
Well, if you insist I thank something I could thank physics. If your argument is that we and our world MUST have been created by a god because otherwise we came from nothing, then where did god come from? If something can only exist if a creator created it, then god must also have a supreme being. You can't have it both ways. Well.... YOU can believe whatever you want of course. But your argument doesn't cut the mustard with me.
• United States
29 Nov 06
I believe everyone has a right to their opinion. It must be sad and lonely existance here on Earth with no Father or Mother God to know or to think you will die and go nowhere but into the ground. That is their choice to live this way.
@Tanya8 (1733)
• Canada
29 Nov 06
It's not really a choice. Look down at your shirt. What color is it? Could you choose to believe it's a different color? We're also not typically sad and lonely. We form relationships with other people, and we treasure the short time we have here on earth.
• United States
30 Nov 06
I think that is slightly moronic about having no one to thank, I am atheist and I thank what actually caused it not some guy who is supposed to be so great and has no actual proof of existence.