mylot newbies!

@snam23 (3157)
United States
June 13, 2012 9:19am CST
Maybe it's because I'm returning from a very long hiatus or it's just that I've lost my patience with everything and everyone, but has anyone else been annoyed by the new kids on this site lately? I know it must always be like this but I really feel like it's getting worse (certainly not improving!) Or maybe it's just the way people expect to make quick money online without working hard and they try to start with mylot.They come and ask how to make more money on their websites, on mylot, on PTC sites, etc. Is it really hard to do your own research through Google? Now that I've had my relatively short (hopefully comprehensible) rant, anyone want to share how they deal with annoyances whether it's on mylot or offline?
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12 responses
• United States
13 Jun 12
Yes I feel your pain. I have only been on here two weeks and see a bit of a trend. Between the how can I make money questions to others who are making a fraction of a cent here, yeah those are the ones to ask. To the I just ate a peach or I just bought a lamp lets talk about it, to the I like blue do you, topics, ugh. But what I think I am really having trouble with is the cultural differences that I just cannot wrap my head around. Some very disturbing. And the language barriers. And then there are some posts that I read and read and they are in such broken English that I think there must be a question in there somewhere but I cannot find it. I read this one topic in the no responses, shocker, about five times and I could NOT for the life of me figure out what she was even talking about.
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@GardenGerty (160658)
• United States
14 Jun 12
I have been to discussions that I cannot wrap my head around and I have struggled with the wording of things, but it is also the charm of MyLot or the uniqueness of it. All of us are equal on the Lot and we should respect each other and try to make the best discussions we can. Yes, there are also people of our own cultures who try to keep us engaged with the minutiae of our lives. I do tell myself that if I do not like the discussions I am finding it is time to start a few of my own.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
Culture barriers, interesting. I never thought I would deal with such a problem online but I guess since language is part of culture, it is bound to happen. I guess I'm lucky in that sense because I have had experiences with multiple cultures so it's not as hard for me. But kudos to you for sticking it through and staying around! And for that discussion you mentioned, I think I might have read the same one! Or maybe it's just there's so many of them...
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• United States
14 Jun 12
Yes when someone tells me that they eat cat's and dogs or some other horrible thing it's hard. People in other cultures are just brought up that way. The only thing we can do is be patient and try to show them a different culture. It's hard though. Then there are the ones, and I tried to find the post but could not, about how different the language is in the Philippines. Words that I would have never in my life thought they could give a different meaning to. There is just too many I have seen to even list. I'm kind of afraid to answer these posts for fear of being misunderstood. There is also the money difference. It seems to me the money people make here means much more to other countries. I haven't looked up the rate of exchange but it seems to have more value to them. That's another thing I need to get used to I guess. What is pennies to me here is someones salary there. Thanks for the kudos! It's a lot of fun on my lot and I've found it easy to talk to most.
@GardenGerty (160658)
• United States
13 Jun 12
Often people are more comfortable asking other people, rather than reading and interpreting for themselves. It seems hard to them. I would liken this to someone asking how to learn programming easily. If I have something I can share with someone and help them out, I will do so, all the while encouraging them to do some reading of their own as well. I do not begrudge posting what I know in a discussion most days. Sometimes I am tired of everything, and will just keep silent, knowing that others will answer their questions. If we want people to act in a certain way, we need to exhibit the same actions and be patient. Of course, I would be more likely to help someone who has already attempted enough to have 100 or so in their ranking than the person who comes in at 0 or one or two and expects me to fix it all for them. I guess for me, it depends on the day.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
I can see your point and I guess it is understandable although I would still say if reading a few simple pages of guidelines and FAQs is too hard, then mylot may not be the place for them. I understand, I'm also like that as well!
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@GardenGerty (160658)
• United States
14 Jun 12
It may be that the site is not for the majority of people, but we need to give them a chance. I have also helped newbies who struggled at first and have turned into good citizens of the Lot. Sometimes you can tell by how hard they are trying and other times you cannot.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
16 Jun 12
I'm willing to giving people a chance as long they give the site a fair chance and work for it. Yes, I agree and I help those who try hard as well and those who genuinely want to earn and have fun here but many are looking for a quick-cash scheme that doesn't exist. Those are the ones who don't read the guidelines and frustrate me.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
13 Jun 12
Hi snam and good to see you active again They don't annoy me but they do cause me to make some considerations and I did it with a discussion: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2638663.aspx Then when some of them asked the same question that had already been asked within an hour previously I did another one: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2667731.aspx It seems obvious to me that those who can't research for themselves an dwant eveything on a plate will never ever be able to get any decent results from trying to earn online - because they don't try. They expect others to do the work for them!
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
14 Jun 12
I don't know how I do it either but I think that being a natural born chatterbox possibly has something to do with it
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
16 Jun 12
I'm sure your kind and friendly manner have to do something with it as well.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
It's good to be back! Wow, I really love your discussions! I don't know how you do it! But anyway, I have to agree with you. Some people will never learn and they'll pay for it!
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@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
14 Jun 12
Hi snam! Been dealing with this myself and i just get disappointed to see those discussions as well so i just ignored them. In face they keep on making the same mistakes with their discussions getting deleted because none read the rules or were observant enough to take notice of what not to write. It's really disappointing but sometimes i see it as a challenge too. Hopefully they'll learn. However, there are other newbies who are really quite good and from their discussions it's pretty obvious that they're in for good discussions.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
Couldn't have said it better! But one of the worst parts is when they start accusing mylot of being a scam (although I don't know how many people they can really influence like that). And I'm so glad they exist! They give me hope and I support them by replying to some of their discussions. The ones that will go far quickly stand out.
14 Jun 12
I hope I wasn't included in this with my discussion yesterday regarding ways to make more money lol.. if i was I would be VERY offended lol!
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
I didn't see anything and don't remember that particular discussion so I think you're fine and shouldn't be offended. This only applied to newbies and at 2587 discussions, you are definitely not one!
@viji_v2 (727)
• India
14 Jun 12
Welcome back to mylot. In real life it is really hard for me to deal with the annoyance. But in mylot it is easier for me. I would just avoid the post or the person for a while. Most times I see even some of the senior mylotters too do the same. It is just for earning the money. But they forget they are losing their reputation. Just few hours ago I just read a post that a person is asking for the terms and conditions of a site which they joined. It made me to laugh. It is that person joined there but asking from us to learn. May be they have to think for a while before posting here.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
Thank you I think it's that way for a lot of people, myself included but it's also more frustrating or me because I can't force them to see how stupid they're being! But hopefully experienced mylotters will always be around to guide them.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
13 Jun 12
Hi Snam, Yep, I do know what you mean. I do try to help them out by directing them to read the guidelines etc but sometimes that too gets tiring. And then we have a couple of them here that are just blowing the place up with discussions that are not even discussions...just random statements and facts...I try to ignore them.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
Hi Sid! I was one of your responses yesterday helping out a new and I didn't get to reply because you said everything so well. I thought I'd share that with you while we were on this topic. Anyway, I'm glad it's just not me. Yes, it really does and I don't know how everyone does it. I think I've stopped a long time ago. I know what you're talking about and do the same thing.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
14 Jun 12
I find it hard to understand newbies who don't read the guidelines. I think it is perfectly fine to ask a question if you aren't sure how to interpret the guidelines or you have a question about something that isn't mentioned in the guidelines, but I think that you should at least try to find the answers on your own before you ask. That is what I would do. When I am a new member of a site, I always try to find my own answers first, and it is often possible to find the answers I am looking for in the guidelines or the FAQ. If I am still in doubt I ask the other members, but I prefer to find the answer on my own if it is possible.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
I agree with you but I guess people are just different these days, with different behaviors and expectations. I think you might be one of the few who prefer to look for it on their own. I do too but it seems people like asking others instead of reading what's already provided!
@alberello (4752)
• Italy
14 Jun 12
Well, that people are interested in making money very quickly, I would say that is certain. The newbie calling for the first time on Mylot, first of all are placed precisely this question. They do not think to see Mylot as a great global community where (besides the gain of money) there is also the opportunity to exchange ideas and opinions on various topics. Probably for them requires a bit more time before entering the "mechanism" of the site.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
Yeah, no one can argue with you there! Looks like I'm not the only one with that theory! Not just more time, but more effort, more thought, and more energy too.
• Indonesia
21 Aug 15
For people like us who trying to earn money online, we will always meet that kind of people. Soon they realize, they will step back slowly or fight even harder -and they will find a way and comfortably. I usually don't take it seriously when they showing impatience like that.
@kenshin2143 (1880)
• Philippines
13 Jun 12
Ouch! I felt this little guilt inside me for I also joined this site out of the urge to earn money. :) Anyways, with regards to your concern, researching is quite easy to do for some people. But as we all know, there is a human tendency to look for the easiest alternative. Ive also did some researches on how to make money online when I was still starting. However, the thing that bothered me most was finding a legit site to put my time and effort unto it. Researches did not also helped me for they are quite few reviews that tackles newly established site. I think, that is just another way of helping so called "newbies" to learn more about online money making.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
Haha It's okay! I think we all joined this site for the money! But what's important is that we're staying for everything else. Yeah, I think you are definitely spot on there. I guess it's hard to find reliable information these days. People also don't realize the "get-rich-quick" method does not exist. For new sites, I just stay away from them because most of them just disappear and are in my opinion, not worth the effort!
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@Html01 (7)
• Morocco
14 Jun 12
As an elder, I think you should encourage those newbies to be more creative and more adequate in their interferences. If we keep criticizing them without giving them a push, or the help that they need, they will stay at the same state of non-responsibility toward Mylot's eldres. As a consequence, we will keep being anoyed all the time. You know the mentality of today's generation, they want everything good on this beloved earth with no effort. So, we should work hand in hand in order to change that, to teach them that it takes hard work and spirit of perseverance to get what we want. I hope that I made myself clear. Have a nice day and happy Myloting.
@snam23 (3157)
• United States
14 Jun 12
I agree but at the same time I disagree. Mylot gives them a starting point (FAQ and guidelines) that people just simply ignore until they are literally forced there by being redirected multiple times. But luckily, we do have mylotters patient enough to guide newbies along the right path. You made yourself (and your argument) very clear. Thank you for sharing!