A nation with NO political parties! - My life dream!!
By thanks1961
@thanks1961 (7035)
India
June 16, 2012 2:06pm CST
A nation with NO political parties - This is one concept alerting me for a long period of time. These days I am restlessly thinking of how to bring this status of 'EVERY NATION WITH NO POLITICAL PARTIES'. By observing the situations around by the political parties, strongly thinking that why can't this system should be abolished. The people for the Administration and all levels of people should be elected and nominated by proper tests and better training. Just like an MD/CO/COO all are appointed for a company, the same way these administrative representatives are to be selected.
Practically there are so much of hurdle behind it. But the system of cancerous political parties to be eradicated and some better system should replace with this outdated, but the shameless different parties should be fired and deep rooted for ever.
How far you agree to it or disagree for the same, and why?
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11 responses
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
18 Jun 12
Hi thanks
Waited for days to respond to this one.
I dont agree that we would be good without Political Parties. We do need leadership as this is not everyones cup of tea and we do need someone to be responsible and take decisions for us.
Politics is never bad, only our vested interests are. Power always has some influence and if the power holders know how to control themselves, politics would be good for all.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
19 Jun 12
Political science was my core subject for my degree papers and I scored an excellent mark. I think probably the valuator must have with my own ideas, and otherwise I should have core a more near to '0', but didn't happened.
In fact, I am not against the concept of politics and I argue for it. I was referring to 100% on political parties and not on Politics. Yes, it is sure that without parties it is difficult to think of politics.
Imagin how we elect IAS officials, the top level people on administration (other than politicians) there are a 100s of official designations that the government appoints.
Similarly, for PM, and all the ministers in the Parliament should come up with not on public elections but with a power by knowldge. If someone is nominated by 'real power' with knowledge, they can do better than what these public nominated representatives. This the luck behind for the pary people. Anyone who has the power to vote will cast their vote on the bais of 'my leader', and not on who he is. Here about 90% people are elected on the basis of parties, and not on the knowledge in politics.
How does a qualified experienced doctor is emerged, a well know engineer is formed, a creative actor or singer is popularised - with the same manner, all the top level people in politics also should be SELECTED with a maximum education with a minimum requirement, and a various levels of tests and clearances, expert training etc. Just similar to our IAS selection procedure, those people also be nominated on the basis of these tests.
Someone who comes in power in such a way can prove what he can do for the nation. Experience on political background is a pre-requisite, but they will easily slip into our demoralised political party influences.
I just want to burry the current/existing parties and not politics. If we get a fresh system of politics, our nation will be the best country in the world in no time with eaquality. I know it is a night-mare, but if it works, there won't be nothing better than this, especially a country like India. However, I am sure that it will not happen and if some politician come to know about my thougt, I am so sure that they will send someone to eliminate me ...
@jkct02 (2874)
• Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia
19 Jun 12
"If someone is nominated by 'real power' with knowledge, they can do better than what these public nominated representatives".
Who are the 'real powers'? Who has the power to nominate? Who will have the power to make sure the people who have the power to nominate will do their job correctly?
In a democracy, the people that are to be governed vote for the candidate that they want to be their governor. If the people's voting right is taken away, it is no longer a democracy.
The best educated people may not be necessarily the most suitable people to lead a nation as being a leader is more than just about having had the best education. I understand your frustration about those corrupt and non-performing politicians. I feel that the correct way to right the wrong is to educate the masses who voted in those politicians the need to query the corrupt politicians' suitability to be in public service in the next or the next next general elections. It is the people who gave those politician the power to govern. So people power is needed to take back the mandate. Education is the only way to open up the minds of people to know what is right and what is wrong. If they are well informed, they won't fall for the sweet talks of the politicians so easily.
@taura2p (349)
• Romania
20 Jun 12
I hate political parties in my country, too. Politicians just keep arguing about nonsense instead of doing something useful for the country. On the other hand, I cannot imagine a life without political parties. Someone should rule, and if there were no political parties, there would be no democracy.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
18 Jul 12
NO - We can be so democratic just even without any influence or existence of political parties. If the human beings can think of everything beyond our imaginations and we can reach upto here in all field, why cannot find a suitable ay of administration? It is outdated and there are a majority of of people taking advantage of the same and most of the thinkers never though of a new way of transition to a polished method of administration and abandon the fully corrupted and plagued mechanism of the existing political parties and their views.
Whenever taking about a political-party-free mechanism people think the democracy will cease to end and why, we can't think of a new and effective way of mechanism?
We have seen feudalism, communism, capitalism and various mechanisms of anarchy as everywhere the wealth and properties and power were got accumulated. Even now also, as long as power and wealth is concentrated on the minority, my dream never going to materialise...
No one has the time for it, and all are running after to make more and more money and become so selfish thinking about me & mine. ahahaha
@crimsonladybug (3112)
• United States
16 Jun 12
I completely agree with you. I align very strongly as an anarchist but I also understand that human nature will not allow for anarchy - people are naturally either leaders or followers and even in a proposed anarchy, the leaders will take control. A society without political parties seems like the closest thing to true anarchy that we'll ever really achieve.
I don't know how it is in other countries; I'm assuming it is much the same as it is here in the States but here people are kind of divided between those who vote based on what they believe to be in the best interest of themselves and the country and those who vote strictly party line. The Republican party could run Adolf Hitler and Mao Zedong on their ticket and there are people in our country who would vote for them simply because they were the Republican candidates (or Democrats, either way). That leads to people voting for things they know nothing about.
But without political parties, people would (hopefully) be more inclined to research the candidate (and issues) on a ballot before just blindly checking the box marked "Republican."
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
18 Jul 12
Hi
I appreciate your view and I don't know, whenever I talk about a political party free administration, people suddenly think about anarchy or non-democratic or monopolistic life style. Now, we reached upto here by experiencing the various bitter aftermath of various political parties and now it is the time to think of a new method, which is totally free from all evils as now everybody become equal and all everyone got equal opportunities.
However, still now, and as long as the wealth and property is unequally distributed, my dream never come true and there is no guts to think of such a renascence any more, and I still think that people's mind is not so broad to think in such a way because our common people are still addicted or surrendered to either of the political parties, now cancer-ing our society.
@Sanitary (3968)
• Singapore
19 Jun 12
Company do have politics as well just that they do not happen at high levels. DO u know about the term office politics? When it comes to governing of a country, there must be politics to set things right. Every one of us are different and that's why our thinking differs. When our thinking differs, there's where opposition comes in. With opposition, there are bound to be competition and election. Since most countries are democratic, people are given choice to vote. IN the end, we voters are responsible for whoever is sitting up there, taking control.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
5 Aug 12
Your concept is purely right and what you said is what happening here for a 40-50 years and what the next result? The utter corruption, blaming and fighting each other and accumulating the fund for the growth of their own party, the top/leaders become multi-milliners, etc. When the term of their getting over, the party wold become the richest one for them and is there any real development is happening for the betterment of the community?
I am not against the term 'politics', and I am clearly speaking about the parties. The existing mechanism should be modified or transitioned to a much polished, transparent, dependable way for a better government and not for a better political party. The party really really ruins the nations with the existing system and need to be implemented.
As we are just part of the common man and we never really understand what is happening inside the parties.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
19 Jun 12
I am quite not sure how I should respond to this topic. True, many times political parties are to exactly for the benefit of the nation but only serves as a powerbase for some politicians to get elected by the people. Sometimes, it’s not the values of the political parties (if there was even one) and even old-timers are getting more into power compared to principle. What I would like is to have an apolitical leader, someone who is part of the high echelons but is not swayed by the public or the politicking in the government. It is hard not to have political parties since they are the base where politicians can amass their support and money. If that can happen in my country, I will be thankful beyond words.
But yes, in a sense political parties offer choice, if they are only sincere in giving it and they are capable of delivering their promises. Then again, most of the time, everything is politicized to the point of no redemption.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
19 Jun 12
I think some of my friends here got mis-understood me on my words. If you go back to the history in deep, we can find a lots of good and bad and more worse than ever, which all are happened in the history of politics. Power and domination - those were the few ambition in the world wars and, what for, even if we listen to the history of humanity, we can see this domination on others were the back bone and very base of human life and when it mixed up with politics, it become total complete for human charactrisation.
Now, this transition brought the newly evolved worst mechanism of politics ignoring the real meaning of politics. I just want to demolish the PARTIES and not the politics. I still don't think that anyone will really understand or can read my mind properly and what I really meant...
Thanks for your excellent words.
Thank-s
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
18 Jun 12
"No parties" in my opinion would invite a totalitarian or dictatorship form of government cause there would no longer be pros and cons, no more checks and balances, by nature people are always agreeing or contradicting that's why they form parties to be heard and to give them a louder voice to be heard, yes there's an evil side to political parties.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
5 Aug 12
By saying no 'parties', I didn't mean that an abolish of all the politics. We need a substitute for the current decayed system of politics and need to find a better solution to implement with a modern view. We are running the system with an outdated plans and most corrupted system of administration. The various political parties holding the majority of the wealth in the name of politics and they are administrated to the growth of their party and not for the well being of the society.
See, before the implementation of computers, internet, mobile and advanced telecommunication, we had everything over here. But after getting all these facilities the life has changed a lot and it become much easier. Similarly, I mean to say, just wipe out the current 'system of political parties' and not politics. We need an advance system of administration which is suitable for the modern life and speedy developing mechanism with less corrupt, which is an essential element for the fast growing life patterns.
@ptrikha_2 (46917)
• India
18 Jul 12
Well, anyone of us who believes in a strong nation with corruption free scoiety or nearly corruption free, where the interests of citizens are paramount, would like to have such a system. However, whether we shall actually be able to have such systems is debatable. The political class as well as many other sections would not like such an order, as their hold on the system would have to be abolished first.
@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
17 Jun 12
Hi thanks: I know we sometimes feel frustrated after all the corruption and bad acts people use covering in Political Parties but the solution is not to eliminate the political parties. It's the same with religion. People judge religion because some religious people do bad things and don't really do what they preach. Political parties should be there to represent the ideas of a group of people in theory (Conservative, Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Radical, Unionist, Nationalist, etc.). If we don't have political parties the political Agenda of a country should be lead just by what a man thinks. People die and if we don't have strong political parties, the ideas of a man will die with him while Parties should work on a Political Agenda for generations. Of course this is all idealistic.
ALVARO
@billutheguy (179)
• India
16 Jun 12
Well, there's another way: individual candidates , but still voted to be elected or else it won't be democracy . This way would still make up political parties of sort , I mean a group of people with a similar set of believe might form an alliance of some sort that would end up being like political parties of some sort . The negative effects of course , are that one of them comes to power and that event spits the country into two group of supporters of different people , the supporters of the people that lost end up being like a minority in way. As for not having voting at all and having exams determine who would do what actually seems like better Idea I would agree with that but I don't think the rest of the world would. It would banish the whole myth of a democracy being by the people and make them feel like things would get worse instead .
IN short : I like the Idea but I would have much hope in it gaining much support and popularity to come into action .
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
23 Jun 12
Yes, I agree with you. In fact if we think, we had developed a lot and this phases of development happened everywhere except the thinking of political means. I am not against politics, but the I am talking about the political parties. Our thinking and acting on it happened everywhere so that life style has changed as compared to yester years. Every filed got changed, economy, science, technology, etc. and the conventional method of politics still being used the outdated one or the old method of politics.
It is not just a polish, but abolish all parties and new technicals and election methods to be established with a corruption free basis, and it is easily can be done. But people won't do or think about it as everyone in this field is silently enjoying the hidden benefits of our prevailing politics and that is why nobody raise any voice against it.
@roshigo58 (4859)
• Pune, India
4 Jul 12
hi,
I admire your noble thoughts but it is impossible to live without politics. Without political leaders who will run the activities of the country. The only precaution should be taken to elect only good persons as leaders. Politics is not bad basically but the vested interests of somebody spoils the definition of it.
@AijeffClynt (50)
• Philippines
4 Aug 12
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