Some People Don't Know The Difference Between "How Far" and "How Long."
@danishcanadian (28953)
Canada
June 19, 2012 10:21pm CST
I understand that I am not in the majority when it comes to walking. I ma legally blind, and walk with a white support cane. My problem is both visual, and physical.
Anyway, yesterday I ran downtown to get a passport photo. My husband told me he thought he saw a sign at Kwik Kopy, so I went in there first. Turns out they did not do the photos, and directed me to go to Ponds camera, instead. I asked where it was, and they gave me the general directionm, and when I asked how far it was, I was told "a 5 mnute walk from here." The way I walk, it would take me five minutes to get from one end of their tiny store, to the other. I know they're not mind-readers, but is it too much to assume that people who can SEE a support cane, whether it's white, or any other colour, would know that they are going to move a lot slower than average? I did not ask how long it would take a perfectly mobilt person to get there, I asked how far it was from my current location. Whether a snail was to go there, or a cheetah, the distance would be the same.
Do you ever notice that when you ask for a distance, people will give you a length of time? Why is that?
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@BarBaraPrz (47274)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
20 Jun 12
They could answer "Just 20 paces from here" and again, you'd have to ask, "Is that the length of your stride or mine?"
The best answer would have been for that person to accompany you to the door, point you in the right direction, and tell you how many stores away it was, I would think.
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
Getting behind the person and yelling BLIND LADY COMING THROUGH!!!!!!! while refusing to stop, is quite effective!!!!
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
21 Jun 12
I had to ask the nice young man pushing me why they didn't have electric carts like other airports, well, it seems that people using the Atlanta airport can't seem to get out of the way of electric carts...
Have to say, I've been in carts that have drive right up behind a person tooting their "horn" and the person (BEFORE everyone had a cell phone) would not notice until either the driver yelled for them to get out of the way, or, more likely, someone would grab them out of the way!
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
20 Jun 12
In Texas we talk about distances in time - its 3 hours to Houston...
I think its a matter of not thinking, at least not thinking things through.
The new roommate, who has no vision, just doesn't pay attention.
We started putting a "thumb tack" type magnet on the dishwasher so she would know it was clean. There is a little fridge right above and a bit to the side of the dishwasher for her to move the magnet to when she unloaded it, but last night it wasn't on that fridge.
She's trying to blame it on "senior moments" but we won't let her get away with that because she's the YOUNGEST.
Then she tried to tell us that "I was on hormone therapy for a while and that leads to Alzheimer's"...
Told her, no, it leads to cancer, its supposed to help prevent early onset of dementia - and her mother didn't have dementia!
NOT paying attention is the #1 culprit of people!
Like having to change planes in Atlanta and I asked "How far is the other gate?"
"Oh, a 30 minute walk."
I said: "Is that 30 minutes how you walk or 30 minutes how I walk?"
She called over a wheelchair!
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
I always get wheelchairs in airports, but forsome reason they always make me get out of the wheelchair, and give me a freaking pat-down, even when it's THEIR DAMN WHEELCHAIR! Next time they do that, I'm going to fart in their faces!!
As for the roomie, tell her I'm legally blind, but still have pretty good vision compared to totally blind people, and I PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYthING11! I have no tolerence for people who do not. If I can, why shoudln't they?
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
21 Jun 12
We think that its kind of an "oh, I'll say yes and be agreeable, but if I eff it up bad enough then they'll stop asking me to do stuff" sort of thing.
At least the other roommate isn't even agreeable about it so we know she's being pissy...
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@BarBaraPrz (47274)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
20 Jun 12
I hope you enjoyed the free "ride".
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
20 Jun 12
Somewhere I was told if you ask a man where something is , he uses mileage. If you ask a woman , she gives you landmarks. If I say you with a cane and visually impaired, I would say it this way. I don't know how long or far it is .. I use landmarks. Whenever I Give directions I use every landmark I can think of. If you ask me how far away it is, in mileage? I don;t know!
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
What finally happened was she asked if I knew where ScotiaBank was and when I said I did, she told me to go there, and then walk four stores further.
Fortunately I understand both landmarks, and milage.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
21 Jun 12
Thank G-d! All's well that end's well.
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@Mashnn (4501)
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20 Jun 12
I think probably because most people expect that you can approximate the distance when they tell your the time. Unfortunately, telling the time is not right since, it all depends on the pace of the individual and whether you meet any barrier along the way. The best thing is to give the actual distance like it is 5km from here then you can decide the total amount of time that you will require to finish that distance.
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
20 Jun 12
Thanks. I can aproximate the distance I can walk in five minutes, but I am not most people. I swear to God, the next time someone tells me "five minutes away" I'm going to set the timer on my iPhone, walk for exactly five minutes, and if I'm not there yet, I'm going to call the original departure location, and ask them how far from wherever I end up. LOL
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
Exactly! I imagine the idiot who measures in time, expects me to put the stop watch on pause, at a red light, or a traffic jam. LOL
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@sishy7 (27167)
• Australia
20 Jun 12
Another possibility is that the person you're asking happen to be poor in approximating distances. They just wanted to give you a quick answer without much thoughts; and the easiest way to do that was to give you information familiar to themselves which was actually useless for the person they are giving the answer to.
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
True, but how does one explain the fact that almost every person I've ever asked has done this to me?
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@sishy7 (27167)
• Australia
21 Jun 12
I'm not sure...
Maybe it's just more common and easier for people to 'measure' distance by time rather than by actual measurement in meters or such...
These days people tend to put less and less efforts and thoughts on anything; more and more people are spoiled by 'conveniences', they just want everything instantly including giving out as quickly as possible answer if they could...
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@roshigo58 (4859)
• Pune, India
20 Jun 12
hi,
There is a confusion regarding how far and how long. It depends on an individual capacities. Actually the appropriate way is not to tell the time. Instead just try to tell the distance precisely and accordingly an individual will decide by his own.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Jun 12
hi yes tell me its a block or two blocks then I can decide if I am capable of walking that far. no need for me to explain my limitatios
at all.my fifty three year old son can walk two blooks in two minutes
but me his 85 yr old mom with a walker can walk one block in half an
hour, as I have some limitationgs I have to face.
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@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
20 Jun 12
What you are saying makes sense to me. I do not think I give distance measurement as time, but I know I would be frustrated if someone else did that to me. Even sighted people who do not know where they are going and who are looking for landmarks or counting blocks or whatever take longer to walk to a location than people who know exactly where they are going and can buzz straight there with no effort.
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
Exactly!!! In a couple of months I'll be in New York City. I think I'm just going to hire a driver when I get there! Save myself a hell of a lot of frustration. Fortunately I'll only have to pay for a day, because the rest of the time I'll be with a friend of mine who has her own driver! :)
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
20 Jun 12
they dont know how fast or slow you walk not there fault.
When I ask how far something is and I get its about a 5 minute walk I know they are talking about the average person, so I say okay 5 minutes for a normal person that would mean 10 minutes or 12 for me. I do that all the time, it is not a big deal for me.
Or you could say how far is that in kilometers or what have you, I find a lot of times people don't really know.
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
It most certainly is their fault. Not their fault for not knowing how fast I walk, but their fault for giving an answer in a unit of measure of which they do not know the accuracy. Walker time s variable, meters, yards, miles, kilometers are not variable. I can barely see five feet infront of me, and can not move fast enough to keep up with the average person, therefore I have no clue how fast they walk. I know they can't know how good my vision is, but agan, actual measurements of distance do not vary.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
actual measurement do not vary but it doesn't mean they know them. Many people don't know them, they are not drivers and they don't walk around with a measuring stick.
YOu can choose to accept this as something that happens and move on or you can get all upset, but why didn't you just ask the actual distance for them to give it to you since you didn't get the answer you wanted in the first place.
I would have done that, if I really needed to know how many kilos it was away. But I judge in walking time like the people who give you that answer.
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
I understand if people couldn't tell, but it's a WHITE CANE, for crying out loud!!!! Anyone here not know what a white cane is? I even tend to wear dark skirts, so they'll see it better!!!! LOL
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@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
20 Jun 12
I get your point..I suppose it's like Car drivers estimating a Journey by how long it would take them to drive there,and Able bodied (and sighted) people estimating how long it would take THEM on foot..They'll leave the Math variables for YOU to work out..
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Jun 12
But that only works, if I KNOW how quickly they walk. Both my husband, and his ex-wife are perfectly able, yet he walks twice as fast as she does.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Jun 12
hi danishcanadian thats so true and I had never realized that before. I have to use a walker now to get around since a year ago when I fell face firston the tile floor in front of the elevator. I injured
my right knee badley , not broken but ligaments torn and it took
the better part of a month before I could again walk on it. now my table mate Steve keeps telling me to get out everydayd for a walk
with the walker I can walk for awhile but not for a half hour whiche suggested so I must assume he views this in the way he goes for walks. he has no mobility problems just his b ack is bent over so he walks face down but man does he walk. he goes for blocks and hes 83.
I am 85 and I can walk the block where Gold Crest sits but I am afraid of walking farther then getting exhausted and not able to walk back.
Like you I have some physical limitations, my eyesight is good with corrective glasses but still my left eye has a catract. I walk for a half hour my knee hurts and I am afraid to overdo it.He said it would only take me ahalf hour to get to rite aide two blocks away and I am thinking he just does not get it that I am using a walker for a damned good reason. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
29 Jun 12
Someone asked me about stuff within walking distance. My response? Depends on what you consider "walking distance."
I know that things can vary greatly by person. If someone were to ask me how far away something was, I'd likely respond with about how many blocks or miles away it is. I may also add about how long it should take to walk it, but, obviously, that would be based on my own experiences.
@zeny_zion (1283)
• Philippines
12 Jul 12
if im not mistaken for me "how far" is like if you are going somewhere and youre not familiar your will ask how far is the place, its the miles we are talking about here."how long" is that again if you are going somewhere and you dont know the place you will ask how long it will take us before we can reach the place , its the time we are talking about here . am i right?