"ADULTS" ridicule children singing a patriotic song in front of their schoo.
By debrakcarey
@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
June 20, 2012 10:58am CST
Once again, the progressive mind set let's us know, it's all about them.
Despite months of rehearsal, these kids were barred from singing the patriotic song at a school musical. The principal thought it might offend other cultures. So she opted for a racy Bieber tune instead. (The Bieber song was later dropped from the program as well.)
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/212740.php
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
20 Jun 12
Golly! I'll tell you what's the truth! Anyone who gets offended by a tribute to our country should not LIVE in our country. If they hate our country so much, go back to where they came from, or find some other place to go.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 12
I've heard of so many of these types of things happening. Kids told to apologize for singing USA, USA, USA at a ball game. AFTER the kids they were playing against (both teams were America btw) waved a MEXICAN flag at them during the awards ceremony. The team chanting USA were 'mostly white' and the team waving the Mexican flag were mostly latinos. Note the "mostly". And note both teams were American.
We'll see more of this now that illegals have been granted blanket amnesty.
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
20 Jun 12
I sang that song in school all the time! We used to wave our little flags near veterans day and when 9/11 happened we sang it right along with the Star Spangled Banner. No one ever said one angry word about it, but I guess I grew up in a more conservative country-loving city. I mean, it's about living in a free country and being proud of that fact.
And why would loving one's country be offense to other cultures? I like patriotic songs from other countries. Why can't we all just share our love for our countries and our cultures and be happy about it together?
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
20 Jun 12
I find it kind of offensive that people want to tip-toe on eggshells around mention of God. "In God We Trust" is still our national slogan, printed on all of our money, and "Under God" is still in the pledge of allegiance. Are we honestly supposed to bar all mention of God in the interest of being "politically correct"?
And I don't understand why you weren't, or you think people aren't, allowed to opt out of singing songs they/you feel go against their personal beliefs. Kids would opt out of singing "God Bless America" and partaking in Christmas songs at my former schools, and there was utterly no problem with it. No one was "forced" to sing something that went against their beliefs. We would even have kids showcase songs/dances from their own religious beliefs and cultures in place of what other kids were singing. I think that's the spirit of America, being a place of free expression of religion, not a country afraid of mentioning religion for fear of offending people.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 12
Perhaps the kids singing praises to Obama had Republican parents too?
NONE of those kids' parents chose to opt them out, so apparently all the objection came from the school principal and the idiots jeering their efforts to singa a song and be proud of the country that gives them an opportunity to have a freakin education in the first place.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
20 Jun 12
I think the offensive thing was the choice in song and the signs and such. I mean you can have a patriotic song without mentioning God in it. That is disrespectful to anyone who has a different religion or is an atheist, all of which is allowed in America due to freedom of religion. It is disrespectful to have children singing the song especially if they or their families do not believe in christianity or judaism.
I always found this one and God bless America to be offensive due to it being God blessing only this country. What about everyone else? God isn't One Place exclusive. I was made to sing this in high school against my beliefs because it was "patriotic" but wouldn't a true patriotic song embody America with no one's religious interference written in. I have always thought having it like that was more patriotic than having the word "god" in a song.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Jun 12
hi debracarey that was just horrid. childish adults heckling
those poor kids.and the excuse offered by the school people
is outlandish.So now the children get the lesson its wrong
to be patriotic and love your country? shame on them those
school officials are dumb adult a.s.s.es. for sure
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 12
Thank you Hately. Coming from someone of your age and stature that matters a great deal to me.
I would think this would be something all proud Americans could agree on. Sadly, it isn't.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
20 Jun 12
That looks pretty bad.I`ve heard the same ideas promoted in my country but i`ve never seen people trying to stop others to sing patriotic songs or religious songs...well here the kids are allowed to sing such songs in the classroom, they don`t need to go outside the school for that.Something is wrong.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 12
Yes, something IS WRONG. Very wrong.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
20 Jun 12
This seems like more right wing propaganda. It is really sad. I can't say that I wouldn't have asked the school to reconsider the song though. It is rather offensive to other cultures AND there are other songs they could have chosen for the children to sing that are patriotic without it being "God bless the USA".
The congressman there, regardless of whether he was invited or not, took the whole patriotism thing out of the song. Really, it looked more like a campaign piece and for the candidate to use the children like that it is very very sad. I am sure other people will look at that and say "oh they were denied a patriotic song", but the fact of the matter is, it was a campaign event.
I would have been more impressed if there were NO campaign signs, NO politicians, and it WAS NOT posted on GOP sites.
Then it would have been more of "Oh well, this is just another thing they force kids to sing in school. I had an issue with the song but it was wrong if we didn't see it." The song to me was offensive. Any patriotic christian should find it offensive, after all God should bless everyone... not just the people in THIS country.
This was a very sad, blatant, political event and NO DECENT PARENT should have ever let their children take part.
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
20 Jun 12
I know that I'm being nit-picky here, but those kids were clearly not five. Looked to me like the 10-12 year old range. The tallest of them came clear up to the adult's shoulder height in the back.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 12
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15109
Is that neutral enough for you?
The candidate was INVITED BY THE SCHOOL.
The kids wanted to sing their song for him.
How about taking part in this singing to praises to Obama? That was explained to me by a liberal as 'teaching kids to honor their president'. ?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOwXrI6v4uk&feature=related
The song sung in a playground expressing patriotism is just that, expressing a desire for America to be blessed. The other is a song with POLITICS in mind, praising a Democrat and was forced on children without parental approval.
YOU tell me which is more awful?
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
20 Jun 12
They both are equally awful. The democrats and the republicans should be ashamed of themselves.
The candidate was invited, well how many of the teachers, the principal, or the administration were republicans. Because if the administration, the principal or any of the teachers who taught the song were... it was for nothing but political gain.
OTHERWISE
There are OTHER patriotic songs out there that they could have sang and invited a congressman WITHOUT it being such an obvious GOP campaign event.
Just to name a few:
The Star Spangled Banner
This Land Is Your Land
Yankee Doodle
They could have sang the "Marine's Hymn" and invited the congressman to come and see how the students were expressing patriotism and supporting a part of the military.
A blatant disrespect to other views for a most likely conservative GOP candidate? Nothing more than a political thing that the children were forced into. Don't say they weren't. They are five. We teach our children to listen to their teachers in school. They didn't have a choice and were most likely told they just had to practice the song. The Democrats are no better for making the children do it either. Politicians are rather disgusting for using children for their political gain. I bet that guy or other GOP are going to start saying how Democrats are unpatriotic, and blah blah blah. How pathetic to use children to do so.
And yes expressing that desire in a mixed cultural country, when some of those kids could have had different views or different family values or didn't have a home that supported the song were forced to sing that song because it was what the teacher/school/etc wanted them to do. It is so blatantly disrespectful and the fact that you support it, is mind boggling.
Both the GOP and the DEMs should be ashamed of themselves. This had POLITICS in mind written all over it. As I stated, there were other songs.
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@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
20 Jun 12
Hello debrakcarey
I found the video too chaotic to understand. I really couldn't hear anything. Whoever made the video might have done better to turn down the music. Was the music being played live and recorded that way? It sounded more like it was added.
It is unfortunate for the children that proper planning wasn't done so that the fruits of their efforts could be realized.
I do find it very odd that a Congressman was there to 'support' them. It seemed more like the musical presentation was supporting the Congressman, what with their campaign signs and all that.
The article is very vague. In the video, did the principal say, explicitly, that he/she denied the musical because of fear of offending other cultures?
If I was the principal I would have denied it because it seemed to be supporting one political candidate, and I don't think that children should be manipulated in this way.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 12
It was chaotic because the Democrat parents of children in the school were interrupting and rude.
Earlier, the children had practiced the song for an assembly but in the heavily Democrat area, it was not allowed for fear of offending. Instead, a racy pop song was suggested. Since the children had practiced this patriotic song, and wanted to sing it, they took it outside on the playground. THE SCHOOL invited the candidate to come and hear them. They were singing the song because THEY wanted to.
Even if an adult disagrees with patriotism, they should NOT in front of children argue about their differences, that is just plain Parenting 101. My second response is this....why is it wrong to teach children to be patriotic. The song was about AMERICA. We have really sunk to new lows when school children cannot sing patriotic songs in AMERICA.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 12
http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/2012/06/20/students-defy-principal-sing-god-bless-the-usa/?subscriber=1
Another take on the incident.
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@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
20 Jun 12
Hello again
I am not in disagreement with teaching children patriotic songs if that is important to a parent. I am against manipulating children to support a particular candidate. Perhaps if all candidates had been there, it would have been truly patriotic, but as only one candidate was there, it seems wrong. Even the perception of backing a candidate is really not the place of a public school, is it?
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
22 Jun 12
"Not offend other cultures" just imagine if folks tried to get an Islamic country to #1 - give up its heritage, and #2 - put all other cultures on an even footing in THEIR country.. none of these progressive "adults"/dictators would even think of trying it!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Jun 12
I've had that same thought. Funny thing is, all the liberals I know would tell you how peaceful Islam is. Yet, if you go to an Islamic country you are not allowed to do a great many things. And you'll be either put in jail or physically punished (beaten with a cane)for not abiding by their very THEOCRATIC laws.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Jun 12
And lets not forget, the want to impose their theocratic sharia law on Americans here in our own country. They've succeeded in getting sharia law onto the books in Europe already. Let's not forget that people have been killed in Europe for breaking sharia law, remember Theo VanGogh? He was killed for exposing the treatment of women in Islam. And how can we forget the fatwa on Salman Rushdi coming from the Ayatollah in Iran in 1988 for depicting the Prophet in a bad light.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
21 Jun 12
I'm going to mention two things I don't remember seeing in the other comments. First, I'd like to know where this principal was all the time this play was being rehearsed. What kind of principal has no idea what's in the plays being practiced by different classes? If she was not aware of this before the performance, she wasn't very competent. If she was, then why didn't she nip it in the bud instead of waiting this long? Is it possible she wanted an issue made of it?
Secondly, if it was the adults having the problem with this song, why heckle the kids? The adults responsible for this and those offended by it should have been able to discuss their differences out of earshot of the children.
When I was in high school, a number of us had a favorite teacher. We got word that the school board had decided not to grant her tenure. I forget why. A number of us were upset and our parents wrote letters to the school board. They weren't able to make a difference, but they settled the matter in the way these matters are supposed be settled. They didn't use the students as tools. Here the students were evidently being used as tools, albeit with their consent, since they wanted to sing the song. The question, though, is who was using them? The timing of the protest might indicate it was the principal, who let the children continue to practice and think they would be able to sing this, and then preventing them at the end.
I apologize if my facts are wrong. I was not able to watch the video. I'm speaking as an ex-teacher and my administrators were supposed to be aware of what went on in my classroom. Children often talk about what they are doing at school with their parents. Seems to me that any children who were unhappy about singing the song would have spoken to their parents and the parents would have complained to the principal early on if they objected. The children most likely sang the song around their homes, too, since children often do sing what they are learning. Mine children did.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
21 Jun 12
That last sentence should read "My children did."
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
22 Jun 12
The kids were suppose to sing the song at an assembly. The principal said NO and suggested a Justin Beiber song with 'adult type lyrics and the parents said NO). I don't know the details, but the parents and the music teacher set this performance up and the candidate was invited to hear them. I wouldn't call this 'using' the children. Their parents were aware, their parents wanted them to sing for the candidate. THEY wanted to sing for whomever. I don't feel the kids were offended in the least, scared of the hecklers for sure, but not offended. The story of their being unable to sing the song in the assembly of the whole school made national headlines, so their singing it for the candidate was news. I have no problem with the parents oking this. I do have a problem with the hecklers. The cameras were there, they could have spoken to the news staff after the song was sung and the children had left if they felt it was necessary.
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