I Oppose Changing Philipppine's NAME!!!!!!!!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
Philippines
June 21, 2012 7:52pm CST
Hello LOtters,
This morning i got a quick but very disturbing question from one of my friends in MYPAGE5, i was so shocked that i check it on google. She was asking for my opinion on plans to change my country's name. well, i couldn't respond back, this was huge and very DISAPPOINTING to hell of those who were proposing it!
We have so many problems that needs to be addressed! even though it's not new, would they really be stupid enough to start new problems. PRIDE is such a bad thing, what's with the egoistic thing of changing it's name when the people and it's government system is just THE SAME!
Come one my people, i hate this.
but what do you think???
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15 responses
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32746)
• Calgary, Alberta
22 Jun 12
we will debate for the first time :
No hard feelings, nothing personal
Phillippines is not a name created by Filipinos, Its created by Americans, Its derived from our country's Spanish name which is Filipinas. Both Filipinas and Philippines is degrading cos its giving tribute to the colonizers. When a country changes its name its actually becoming a world event that encourages Tourism. yeah for sure it wont end corruption but it will start a new National identity that is strong, Independent and original.
King Phillip II enslaved us for 333 years , yeah they gave us Christianity but we are not their colony anymore. Why should we give tribute to that King. Our Country's have no meaning or definition, Its a Tribute to King Phillip.
Even Andres Bonifacio wanted to change this country's name.
Just my 2 cents.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
sorry to interrupt here Capt.
our country is not as bad during the Marcos regime...so let's not blame the country's name for whatever crisis we are facing right now...
About Christianity- well, that is something to be think of-
say a nation where Catholicism dominates- are the poorest country.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
opps...I do not want to debate with this- not worth, just giving my opinion as well.
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32746)
• Calgary, Alberta
22 Jun 12
its not going to solve problems of corruption or stop poverty but it is going to have a positive impact and its the removal of the colonial bondage. removing the colonial bondage wont remove colonial mentality in an instant but it will start a National identity for the next generation. Also Philippines is listed as one of the most misspelled English word on earth.
@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
22 Jun 12
Hello LetranKnight25
Who is proposing changing the name of your country, and what is their reasoning?
It seems a very foolish idea.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello Pageturner, THey were some groups who wanted to propose it. and some commentaries about a politician who wanted to change it but he lost popularity and never got re elected. i find it very foolish indeed, this isn't something that we should do now, or never as a matter of fact. we are Filipinos Living in the Philippines, and it should stay that way
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@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
22 Jun 12
My mind is boggling at the very thought that a politician would propose this. I am not at all surprised that that politician lost all popularity.
Thank you for responding to me even though I am not Filipino.
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
This has been proposed many times in the past and failed to be passed in our congress so I do not really worry about it that much. I think varied as we are as Filipinos there are a few that wanted it to be changed but I think it will need Congress Approval and I think we need to have it go under plebiscite to be fully approved by the whole country. And I think that would entail a amenmend in the constitution as well. So I think if it is just under proposal stage there is nothing to worry about it. I really doubt if it will pass the Congress because historically it never did.
I have nothing against it actually if the name that they would change would represent the whole country. Meaning it does not distinguish those from Luzon, Visayas or Mindanao. If someone can propose a name that no one gets left out then fine by me. But so far, I have not heard anything fresh and new name that would be appealing to me to represent me as a Filipino. I still feel I am a Filipino with rich cultural past.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
26 Jun 12
Hello Rsa, Change the political system, take out the corruption of disease that has epidemically spread through out the government agencies. I hope they won't approve this, because it's unthinkable. let's change other important things first before the name, because i don't see any motivational factor that would make the country better if we change it's name.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
23 Jun 12
Well, there's nothing wrong with changing a country's name. There have been a lot of countries which changed their names. But of course, this country is democratic, therefore, there should be representations of each of the people to vote to change or not.
Here are some of the countries which have opted to change their names: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_renaming
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
23 Jun 12
... continued
Portlaoise, Ireland – formerly Maryborough.
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada from Pile O' Bones or Pile-of-bones in 1882 in what was then the North-West Territory.
Rijeka from Fiume in 1945
Royal Tunbridge Wells, changed from Queen's-Wells to Tunbridge Wells in 1797. Renamed in 1909 to its current name after receiving a Royal Charter.
Royal Wootton Bassett – known as Wootton Bassett until 2011 when it received a Royal Charter.
Sahiwal – formerly known as Montgomery in Pakistan.
Saint Petersburg – originally Saint Petersburg (in 1703), then Petrograd (in 1914), Leningrad (in 1924) and back to Saint Petersburg in 1991
Saltcoats, Saskatchewan, Canada from Stirling in what was then the North-West Territories.
Samara, Russia – renamed to Kuibyshev from 1935–1991, after Valerian Kuibyshev and renamed Samara in 1991.
Santo Domingo, capital of the Dominican Republic was renamed to Ciudad Trujillo between 1936 and 1961 in a drive of personality cult around the dictator Rafael Leónidas Trujillo that also affected Pico Duarte (renamed Pico Trujillo), several provinces, and other Dominican features.
Seoul – formerly Hanyang (from 1392), then Hanseong (from 1395), Keijo or Gyeongseong (from 1914) and renamed Seoul in 1946. (See also Names of Seoul)
Shenyang – formerly Mukden, Fengtian (??) or Shengjing (??).
Staines-upon-Thames formerly Staines, this town will be officially renamed in May 2012 with the aim of promoting its riverside location and boosting the local economy.
Sucre formerly known as La Plata (1539-mid 17th century), Charcas (mid 17th century to early 18th century) and Chuquisaca (until 1831), current name in honour of Antonio José de Sucre
Tel Aviv-Yafo – renamed Tel Aviv from Ahuzat Bayit. Renamed to Tel Aviv-Yafo in 1950 after the annexation of Jaffa (Yafo).
Thiruvananthapuram, India – formerly Trivandrum.
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada in 1970 from the merger of twin cities of Fort William and Port Arthur.
Tokyo – formerly Edo, until it became the capital of Japan in 1868.
Tolyatti – formerly known as Stavropol-on-Volga and Stavropol. In 1964, it was renamed to Tolyatti after Palmiro Togliatti
Toronto – known as York at the time of the War of 1812.
Tskhinvali, Georgia – also known as Tskhinval or Ch'reba in present time, formerly named Staliniri (1934–1961)
Tver – known as Kalinin from 1931 to 1990.
Ürümqi – formerly known as Tihwa (??; Dihuà in pinyin), which means "to enlighten" in Chinese. In 1954, renamed to Ürümqi, which means "beautiful pasture" in Dzungar Mongolian.
Varanasi, India – formerly known as Benares (or Banaras) and Kashi.
Veles, known as Titov Veles between 1945 and 1991.
Ventura, California, originally San Buenaventura, New Spain and Mexico.
Vilnius – the capital of Lithuania was known as Vilna or Wilno when it was under Polish rule (1920-1939).
Virden, Manitoba, Canada from Manchester.
Vladivostok – formerly Haishenwai (???) when it was under Qing Dynasty China sovereignty, until it was ceded to Russia by the Treaty of Beijing. In the Yuan Dynasty, it was named Yongmíngchéng (???) in Chinese.
Volgograd – formerly Tsaritsyn (1589-1925), Stalingrad (1925–1961).
Wroclaw– in German Breslau, when part of Germany, until 1945.
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada from Fort Garry in 1873.
Xi'an – Usually spelt Sian until the 1980s. Formerly Chang'an (??), the ancient name for the city when it was the capital of China until the name was changed to Xi'an in the Ming Dynasty.
Yangon – renamed Yangon after being known as Rangoon (1852–1988). Still known as Rangoon in many English-speaking countries.
Yekaterinburg – known as Sverdlovsk in the Soviet Union (the name of the city's railway station remains unchanged as Sverdlovsk)
Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk – named Toyohara under Japanese rule between 1905 and 1946, but before that was Vladimirovka, a Russian settlement before the Russo-Japanese War (1882–1905).
Zhob, Pakistan – renamed from Fort Sandeman in 1976.
Zlín, Czech Republic – named Gottwaldov after Klement Gottwald (1949–1990), Czechoslovak former president.
Zmiiv, Ukraine – named Gottwald after Klement Gottwald (1976–1990), Czechoslovak communist politician.
....
You can clearly see on the list that name-changing is common. So don't fret whenever the topic is up or some 'change' is presented. You must always learn to know how to deal with changes if you don't want a stressful living in the world.
Have a great MyLot experience ahead!
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
Nah don't fret too much, something this major doesn't happen overnight. Moreover since we're a democratic country. It takes a lot of signatures and votes to make it happen.
Further, it's just a name. If they change it, you will still be Filipino
They changed the international code for the Philippines, before it was RP now it's PH, you didn't fret about that hhahaha..
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Hello Lady,
[b]
I AM SORRY BUT I DON'T VIBE WITH IT[/b]. Change the country's condition first, make it better then change the name! i don't care about those countries that you mentioned because I was born a filipino in the Philippines. it's like a part of me changed some how and ripped if this happens. i'd probably leave the country if they pursue this with out making the country better as a real priority. those countries like to change it, but look at their condition now, it's still the same.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
dear LK,
Oh yeah, what's in a name anyway?
Does changing our country's name may help our economic status?
Honestly I just love our country's name - Philippines- duh.
There are lots of problems that they should and must take care and here that are making a big fuss of our country's name- crap!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello Jaiho2009, I don't want to be called Maharlikan, but I prefer Filipino because this is how it became popularized. there isn't other name like the Philippines, it's like Japan for Japanese, or Indonesia for Indonesians. we are too unique that Filipino and Philippines is such a perfect place and call names for us
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32746)
• Calgary, Alberta
22 Jun 12
Yes it will, short term benefit but they can build momentum out of it. But I had explained it before,so i don't need to add details. Its hard so spell it anyway. Why do we have to be a tribute for freaking King Phillip, he is a king who see us as Indios and Savages. There is a scientific study that a name's definition affects a person's personality. Filipinas and Philippines doesnt mean anything. Its just a name given to glorify King Phillip.
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@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
hi LK,
Why not try to change the corrupt system first
What The F***** this country has lot of issues to be take care of than changing country name well it solve poverty, crime and so on and so forth duh!
anyway miss yah
happy mylotting
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
26 Jun 12
Hello bhabycatch, I agree and better why just change the political ways and it's will and remove the corruption out of existence. if there's one thing that should be solved first, is definitely poverty because that's the one of the major reasons why crime is so high out there.. changing a name won't budge.
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
3 Aug 12
wow thanks for the BR I did not received a notification for this
@rosesthorns14 (803)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
I oppose the name change too. There's a history about the name of our country and I fell in love with it because it is unique when this country was named Philippines. Who proposed changing the name of the country?
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello Rosesthorns, maybe this person or the group of people have long forgotten this history and that's why they thought it's cool to change the name of the country. the proposed name was Maharlikah, i doesn't fit to me i believed. it's like changing Mapua into Malayan College, which was also ridiculous.
@chriskoh (16)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Yeah some would want it to be changed into Rizalia by the Rizalistas which I think is a cult. There are also those nationalist who want it changed because they say that the name Philippines was given by the Spanish. It's like Burma being changed into Myanmmar because it sounded more nationalistic
@ram_cv (16513)
• India
22 Jun 12
Wow!! This is the first time I have heard about this. I am not sure how many countries have changed their official names before as that would be a real costly operation. In India many cities and states changed their names and then they spent a huge amount of tax payers money in printing new stationary, new notice boards, new signs etc. all over the state/city which was really annoying. I am not sure how much needs to be spent if a whole country's name is renamed!!
Cheers!
Ram
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello ram_cv, So am I this is the first time that I have heard of this and it's sad that these people didn't think about other problems. This isn't like changing the name of the street, which is obviously insane too. that reminds me of the super region that the arroyo was proposing, it was ridiculous too.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jun 12
i don't quite understand why they would want to change the name of your country. I'd be upset if they wanted to change the name of mine, which is the United States. It seems to me as if maybe the name change proposal is a tactic to get people off of other more important things that are going on in your government.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello SOmecowgirl, why on earth would any one change a countries name? When Britain Left Hongkong, I didn't see them change it's name? It's never important in the first place. something that politicians should strongly consider looking for other solutions for the country instead of hiding by changing it's name.
@airasheila (5454)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hi there LetranKnight25,
Frankly speaking, when I have read your post, I was really surprised then. Since now a days, there are more important issues need to be face and fix but it seems that they are just covering this with another issue which is irrelevant. Hence, they are just wasting their time and effort to this irrelevant issues.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello Airasheila, Yes we do have a lot of isssues to tackle and this is definitely not one of them.this should have not been the top discussion at all. I have seen a lot of politicians wasting a lot time making laws that would make them popular, because some laws that are for the people aren't getting approved by the congress.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
23 Jun 12
What a waste of time and people's money to deliberate on such an absurd idea, It's like changing the names of streets that's why we lost a lot of our original Spanish heritage, It's like changing Integrated National Police or the INP to Philippine National Police (PNP), and it's still the same
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Hello Louievill, what's so intergrated about the police, well better to have change into PNP since it's more general. we have been changing a lot of names, even in our own roads. we should show a different side of the Philippines by being better in positive aspects and not negative aspects. changing a NAME won't make a difference.
@karstine29 (694)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
On what page is this?? Oh?? I have not heard this yet. Anyway, I agree with you. There are indeed a lot of problems that we are encountering in this country. But why they are adding another?? The government should not focus into this.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
THey are definitely adding other problems compare to this one, there's a lot more that needed more attention. It doesn't sit well, people have gotten use to be called Filipinos for a very very very long time and Philippines is already known through out the world. so, there's no point to changing it
@karstine29 (694)
• Philippines
5 Jul 12
Yes!! I agree with you. What's wrong with that name?? Philippines is a good name after all.
@cttolledo (5454)
• Legaspi, Philippines
23 Jun 12
I think this is just a "Gimik", who's behind this proposal? i guess this is part of political strategies, to make " ingay" to recognize their name for some political reason and use the name our poor country to gain the attention of million Filipino.
I think, it has something to do with the upcoming 2013 election.. what do you think?
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Hello Cttolledo, THis is big, probably a big embarrasment if they tried to push it. just like the politician who wants Pacman to be a national hero or something. nothign more than reputation need attention thing. well, for one thing, i will not vote in 2013. waste of time, they never change and till remain.
@BillMTracer (52)
• United States
22 Jun 12
I had not heard anything about this, and am not surprise the politician in question fell out of favor. It is an enormously pointless idea, and just completely unnecessary. Obviously just another tactic trying to distract your people from the real issues of the day.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello BillMtracer, I haven't heard from it either until one of the mypage users actually asked me about this question. i was still shocked to heart, i dunno what i should call myself after the so called changing the nationality and our country here.there are so many many issues that are needed to be solved here
@usemyname (640)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Why change the name all of a sudden? This is just a complete waste of time if they'll push this through. We, have more important concerns than this. Let me guess, it's a celebrity (specifically those in show business) politician that proposed this right?
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Jun 12
Hello Usemyname, This should have talked about during the Marcos Regime or after it during the Cory Administration. thinking of changing this now is totally illogical, we are currently getting focused on tourism about the country. who ever proposed this now should stop running for public service because they are not practical on how to get things done in the public service.