Piracy and Downloading Movies
@allyoftherain (7208)
United States
June 25, 2012 4:12pm CST
I've been seeing people talking about downloading movies a lot on mylot. Personally, I'm very anti-piracy and seeing this happen makes me want to speak out.
It just shocks me how callous people are about it. They're convinced they're not hurting anyone, and it almost seems like they feel entitled to entertainment. It's not just entertainment that gets pirated, obviously, but since I'm posting this in watching movies I figured I would focus on entertainment. If you can't afford something you either save up for it or you go without it. Movies in particular are not essential to survival, there's no reason you need to watch movies. There are also plenty of routes that legally offer free entertainment, such as libraries that have DVDs in stock.
I think piracy ultimately boils down to integrity rather than money. What are you going to do when nobody's watching and you're not going to get caught? It doesn't matter what excuse you apply to it, it's still illegal and you're still taking something that isn't rightfully yours.
What are your thoughts, mylotters?
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@BabyCheetah (1911)
• Australia
26 Jun 12
It's getting quite ridiculous if you ask me. Before the internet existed you would just go toe the local video store and rent your movies or go out and buy them. I don't download movies but I do watch TV shows online that were on free to air TV ect. If I want to see a movie I will borrow it and if I like it I will buy it to show my support. A lot of people these days have no respect!
@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
I think the internet has done lots of bad things to people. It is getting ridiculous. Lots of people seem to choose the easy illegal way out of pure laziness. They don't want to bother to save or take the time or money to find a legal venue to get their movies, and it's like they feel completely entitled to movies because they exist.
@BabyCheetah (1911)
• Australia
26 Jun 12
I know and I must admit with some things I feel lazy. For example do you ever feel so lazy that you can't even be bothered being on the internet? You're just sitting there browsing yet even that becomes a chore XD
With movies though I've never DL'd one. I get annoyed at places that charge you for TV shows though especially when they have already been aired for free!
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
25 Jun 12
I don't download, but I do watch movies online, I hope that isn't the same, because as a writer, I know how important it is to be honest and not steal from another. Speaking of which, I now have a cell phone thanks to my daughter and now that you mention this, I was wondering what you think about mxyer.com. At this site, one can purchase a download for their ringer and there is one I want to save for when my husband calls, but I am going to wait a little longer to buy it.
In the meantime, I do have downloaded music from youtube, but I only did that because my service is so slow, I have to let each and every video load before listening to it and by downloading into realplayer, I can listen to a whole playlist without it stalling.
So, that said, I have a "good morning" song I want for my wake up call and a ringer for general, but because of this kind of genre, mxyer does not have it, so I uploaded it from realplayer and had it sent to my phone, because there is no way to get a CD of these two songs.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
26 Jun 12
I have NEVER gotten HULU to work for me, so I don't even use it. I do watch movies on youtube, and I don't use Netflix. But you said on youtube, that there is a movie section? All I do is put in the movie I want to watch and watch it.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
26 Jun 12
Yes, that could be it, though we have broadband, it is the lower grade service, it isn't that fast and why I mostly watch or download youtube, because unless the video is loaded, it won't play correctly.
Thanks for that link, I didn't realize youtube had this, because I usually just sign in and put the title of a movie I want, not realizing that they had a "movie" section..
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
Well I'm glad I could introduce you to that. I think if more people used the official free movie service then YouTube would seek to expand its collection even further, which would be a good thing for us. More movies to see.
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@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
26 Jun 12
One of the biggest problems with the Chinese is pyracy of movies and computer software. This is one of the disagreements between the US and China plus the argument that China is manipulating the value of their currency to make their export products cheap.
I've just picked up my second Roku box so that now I can stream to a second TV. I've primarily used Netflix although the new Roku came with a free 6 month subscription to HULU plus. I found in the past that most of the shows I wanted were on Netflix and HULU had the annoying habit of running commercials that would break into TV shows at awkward moments. At least if they have to run commercials, why not do it where the normal breaks in the show occur. Then again, why do they need to run commercials when Netflix doesn't.
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
26 Jun 12
I'll have to try HULU again now that I have a free subscription. I also want to see if there are any shows there that are not on Netflix.
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@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
26 Jun 12
I find the commercials annoying as well, burrito88, however, I have found that they come during moments when I would expect them.
I have also noticed that for some shows, there are no commercials at all.
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
27 Jun 12
I don't have Netflix personally, but I imagine they'd probably have a bigger selection than Hulu as they have deals with bigger major studios. Hulu's still somewhat on the small side, but they have been gaining ground with the new plus program they have. I don't think it matters if you prefer Netflix over Hulu, they're both legal distributors.
I don't like being on a monthly subscription plan, so I don't have either big service. I don't really want to get another bill every month, and I also don't think it would be wise to spend more time with TV or movies than I already do. I've been able to find movies I like on Hulu's free service.
@Christoph56 (1504)
• Canada
27 Jun 12
Movies make their money in the theatre, and their numbers have been rising on a regular basis. The highest grossing opening weekend of all time is "The Avengers", from just this summer, because it made half a billion dollars in just a couple of days. The companies make hardly any money off of rentals, through things like netflix, or selling the DVDs, that's more for the little companies that are trying to make money off of the bigger guys. People like the actors and directors, they don't make money off of things like rentals, they make it off of the people in seats in the theatre.
So, if you want to be giving towards a movie, then go see it in the theatre, then your money is actually going to those who make the movie.
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@Christoph56 (1504)
• Canada
27 Jun 12
so, you want to worry less about the people who actually made the movie, and more pay off the massive corporations that don't care about the artistic direction of the movie, but care simply about making money off of the movie. You don't care about the thousands of people involved in the cast and crew, about 95% of the end credits, but instead you care about the company that got you the movie on DVD for $2.
If you go to the theatre and see the movie, then you're helping out everyone that worked on it, not just the principals, but right down to the dolly grips, the gaffers, the craft services, the animal wranglers... if a movie comes out that does well in the theatres, then everyone that worked on that movie is going to do better with their careers.
But I understand, you don`t care about those parts of the film, you just care about the people who can convert it into DVD, and just want to make money off of people who don`t want to go to the theatre, and would rather just stay home.
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
27 Jun 12
When I say the hundred of thousands of blue-collar workers in hollywood, I mean the thousands of people in the credits, in the lower cast and crew. They're Hollywood's blue-collar workers. You only mentioned the stars and the director in your original post.
The company you refer to that sells the DVD is the distributer. The distributer typically does all the legal work, all the publicity work, gets the film into theaters, and then sells the DVD. I don't think of these working people as members of some massive corporation that doesn't care about artistic direction, I think of them as post-production workers on the film and people with a rightful claim to a paycheck from their hard work.
I never said I didn't care about people directly involved in the production of the film. I do. I said that I do go see movies that I'm excited to see in theaters, and whenever I see a movie I sit right through the credits so I can watch all their names scroll by. Naturally, the movie's theatrical run is where it makes the majority of its money, but a company's DVD sales and rentals are also a good source of revenue for the distributor. If a film doesn't do well in theaters, but becomes a hit on DVD that is taken into account whenever a distributor takes on new films in the future.
@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
27 Jun 12
I'm less worried about actors and director's paychecks. Big names are pretty much guaranteed big paychecks, because putting their name on the film will make people want to see it. Except there are hundreds of thousands of regular blue-collar Hollywood workers who don't have that guarantee. Companies do make money off of their rentals, though the amount probably isn't going to the directors and the stars, but rather the hard-working people who helped distribute, publicize, produce, and make the film into what it is.
Personally, I'll go see movies in theaters when I'm really excited to see a film. Otherwise, I'll wait until it's available on rental. Rentals, DVDs, and libraries are a great way for people who can't afford to see a film in theaters to get a cheaper deal.
@petersum (4522)
• United States
25 Jun 12
Americans don't have to download movies like everyone else because they can get them free from hulu dot com. Outside of America, we cannot access Hulu.
So before complaining, put your own house in order! It is America which is the number one pirate.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
26 Jun 12
Ally, "Hulu does not have every film and TV show known to man" perhaps that is why I don't like HULU, they never have anything I want to watch..
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
Nobody has to download movies. It doesn't matter what country you live in! Plus, Hulu does not have every film and TV show known to man, it has a selection released to it by studios and networks. It's a great source for legally free entertainment here in America, but I don't think just not having it is a good excuse to pirate films. No one needs movies, and there is no legitimate reason that someone would have to download a movie.
And actually, the Chinese are much bigger pirates.
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
Well, they do have a pretty extensive collection of movies available free and legal. I can't always find stuff I want to watch on Hulu either, but I've found a few things that have been of interest.
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@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
25 Jun 12
Hello allyoftherain
I have recently noticed people talking about downloading movies as well. I must admit that it never occured to me that they meant that they were pirating videos. I am very naive, because I assumed that these movies were being purchased and I often wondered what sites offered this service.
It would never occur to me to pirate a movie. I guess I just don't think this way.
Peace
I love the world!!
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
You can purchase digital movies from iTunes and Amazon, but when someone's talking about a free download, it's probably almost certainly piracy. The only way it wouldn't be was if the film was in the public domain or was on a free distribution plan (Which probably means it's either very old or is very low budget! ). Mainstream blockbuster films are almost certainly not on free-distribution plans.
I'm glad it never occurred to you. That gives me a little faith in humanity!
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@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
26 Jun 12
See, I'm not so bad, even if I say silly things about King Authur. Thanks!
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
lol, you can say whatever you want about King Arthur!
@vidhyaprakash_2 (7116)
• India
26 Jun 12
Hi friend, i agree with you. It is not a good thing to download the pirated things and movies for free. As lot of persons working hard for that movie, we must give importance to their work and use the original and premium version of the movie
@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
Thank you! Lots of people fail to realize just how many people work on the average Hollywood films. The majority of them are blue-collar workers who don't see huge paychecks from their work. If we love their work, we should support them. Or if we just want to see and sample their work, we should at least make the effort to find a legal venue such as a rental service or a library.
@happylooa (4)
•
26 Jun 12
i'm sorry for that. I can't help myself but to do such activity. But i don't have any direct bad intention (it is just indirect), i just can't afford to buy original.
@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
26 Jun 12
Even if you don't have any bad intentions, you are still stealing something that doesn't rightfully belong to you. If you can't afford something, you should either save up for it or go without. There is no reason that you need to have movies or tv shows or whatever you happen to download. You can help yourself and prevent yourself from downloading films illegally.