Now, is that REALLY true?
By Amber
@AmbiePam (93739)
United States
July 1, 2012 11:04am CST
Do you hear things about other countries and wonder if it true? Sometimes I read things on here about Americans and I can't believe people really think it's true. I was reading in a book (NON fiction) about a woman who went to England and ordered ice in her soda. The waiter brought back a bucket of ice with the word "Yanks" on it. Because apparently people over there didn't normally request ice in their drinks. Then in France, do people really greet each other by kissing on both cheeks? Is cheating on your spouse really that common in France?
Once I was reading a post where two men from China were mocking American women for being weak. They had seen American movies and noticed the men always opened the door for the women. They thought how funny it was American women were so weak. I was like, guys, it's called courtesy or manners. It has nothing to do with the women from American being weak. Do you ever wonder if things you hear about another country are actually true?
I hope this post goes through. Mylot hasn't been posting what I've been submitting. It's annoying!
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
2 Jul 12
I have been around a lot of internationals in my life. Most of what I read, I think is true. French people really do kiss on both cheeks, and people who live in a country that has been influenced by France do the same thing. It is also a custom in France that nobody leaves the dinner/lunch table until everyone has finished all of their food. Even if there is a just a bite of food left on a person's plate people would not consider leaving. That is the case even if it is a bite of bread. Never heard of the other two stories, but I can see it being true. It is no longer 1940. People are rude. When they don't understand the customs of others, such as ice in a drink or holding a door open for a lady, they misinterpret the meaning. We need a little bit of open-mindedness without hard core liberalism attached to it.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
4 Jul 12
Even if it is true about the belching, it's still crude and shouldn't be done deliberately. It's a bodily function and it's natural, but I am sure we could all agree it is in the same category as a certain other bodily function that gets rid of air in the intestines.
@smurfysmurf (651)
• Philippines
2 Jul 12
Hi there AmbiePam,
I have heard a lot of things about the people from other country usually do...and it maybe normal to them but it seems not to us...because of our different culture and practices actually.
Anyways, since I don't really mind that or give importance to those kind of acts, it wasn't really a problem for me.
And yeah, I met a French man and I was shocked that he automatically kiss my cheek as I bid goodbye. Like, I couldn't even say a word after that...and the fact that his Filipina wife was with her...and I then told myself that it is just normal to them so I got back to reality minute after.
Happy Mylotting!
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
1 Jul 12
Well I did find out a few things for myself in my travels....they would really have a time with how women are treated in Germany....special parking places, women are always served first...and it's true about the ice. You can't get a beverage with ice unless you ask for ice....I have also wondered things about other countries....maybe someday I'll get more of an education in my travels!
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
2 Jul 12
Wow, I'd love England then, because I prefer no ice unless it is 100 degrees out..lol
I think unless one actually visits a country, all they have to go on is what they see and hear second hand, whether from a movie, or reading, or even from a friend who has been there, everyone will have some clouded perspective of other countries.
Now the part about China thinking women are weak because a man is being polite, either they see this country the way it use to be, or they only see the select few gentlemen still around. In either case, I wonder if it was an elderly person would they think this? Because in countries like China, they care for their elderly a whole lot better than we do. So maybe since they only are polite to the elderly people, maybe that is why they think when a man is being polite to a woman, they think she is not capable of opening her door herself, like their elderly people.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
2 Jul 12
AmbiePam, be careful in condemning those Chinese men to stupidity. There is a difference in being unaware and being stupid. Manners are sometimes a luxury in societies with little or no education. Those men don't know any better because they don't know any different. The society of their community is not socially evolved, but it does not mean they are stupid.
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@Torunn (8607)
• Norway
1 Jul 12
Of course they kiss eachother on the cheeks in France. That's a rethorical question, right? ;-) Most of Middle/Southern Europe kisses, but you don't kiss everyone and it's not the same persons in different countries. In Italy you only kiss close family I think, in Austria it's family and friends. Here in Northern Europe some people try to introduce the hugging and kissing, but us proper Scandinavians shake hands. Or grunt :-) I like Brits because they shake hands too, not too much hugging and kissing.
It's not as easy as 2 kisses on the cheek. It depends on where in France your from, and apparantly also on which class you're from. Two kisses for the upper classes, three kisses for lower classes. 5 kisses if you are from Corse.
I always thought Americans would be hand-shakers until I went there. That hugging nearly freaked me out :-) I backed into chairs and walls all the time. The hugging just involvos to much physical contact for me, the kissing is not as close actually.
And just for the record: we do close the fjords at night in Norway (apparantly some American tourist asked about that). And there's plenty of polar bears in the street. And we all ski to work in the winter :-)
Re Mylot: I try to remember to copy before I post, in case mylot get stuck.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
2 Jul 12
Torunn, some Americans get freaked out by all the hugging as well, lol. Personally, I don't care for being kissed, hugged or even having my hand shaken by people I don't know, especially men. I don't like people I don't know touching me. I think the Japanese practice of nodding is best, but I believe people's behavior in these matters can be summed up a lot like your explanation of French kissing and social classes. Then again, some people just have no boundaries.
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@psychoartist (756)
• United States
2 Jul 12
hi ambiepam! this is a very interesting discussion to me...i would love to visit abroad and am interested in the customs of culture...my son went to paris several years ago and told me that he didn't think i would like it because it is very crowded and everyone smokes...(i am not a smoker and am a bit anti-social)...he did not mention any kissing, but perhaps he wouldn't to his mother! ...i had a german colleague once who agreed with you about the ice thing...when he moved to america, he never had drinks with ice and deplored them..he told me his elderly relatives in germany also had a fear of breeze...that if windows were open or fans or airconditioning blew on them they were convinced that they would become ill...
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
4 Jul 12
Smoking anywhere in public is selfish and inconsiderate. Dogs do not belong in restaurants or anyplace where there are large crowds of people. While small dogs may not present much of a problem for diners, large ones can, and there is a threat to small children or anyone with allergies or other respiratory problems.
I frequent a business that is owned by a dog owner. When the one dog is there it is fine; when they hold a dog night event I don't attend.
@psychoartist (756)
• United States
3 Jul 12
me too ambiepam! i think dogs should be allowed everywhere!
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
2 Jul 12
Kissing on both cheeks is very common in many countries it is a standard greeting across the world. Sometimes we do it here in Quebec, just depends on who it is.
I doubt very much that the English would bring a bucket with Yanks written on it. That sounds like some email crap that is going around.
Yes as a person who studies different cultures I can see them thinking that way. There ways for manners are very different from ours.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
4 Jul 12
that is so interesting.
Here in Montreal we may just say we want a hot chicken, and people understand it to mean hot chicken sandwich.
My friend went to the states one year and asked for a hot chicken, she was served the whole chicken on the plate.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Jul 12
Yes it is true. The English assume All Americans like ice in their drinks. I do no! And yes , When you are a friend or a family member , you do get kissed on both cheeks when you get to a party or dinner And when you leave. As for our Chinese cousins, It is just a different culture.They don't get it and never will.
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@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
1 Jul 12
I saw some cheap vacations to Greece and wondered how is it over there with its extreme budget problems. I was shocked to see news footage of how dangerous Athens is with robbers on the lose.
French people really do greet each other with a peck on each cheek of the face. I have heard an American person called a yank and think it sounds unpleasant. In Australia I have heard a person from Queensland called a banana bender.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
2 Jul 12
The reason the entire country is put in the "Yank" category has to do with history and the original 13 colonies and people making generalizations to include everyone together. America has quite a lot of diversity despite the fact that when most people say "America" they are really referring to the U.S.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
4 Jul 12
Yep, we are Banana Benders! Mainly because most of Australia's banana growing regions are in Queensland!
But I am really known here as a "Mexican" because I originally come from Victoria which is south of the border!
Yep, we call all Americans Yanks or Seppos which is short for Septic Tanks which is rhyming slang for Yanks!
@vicky30 (4766)
• India
5 Jul 12
I too could not believe it when i read all these things. It could be true because people around the world have different cultures. When we go abroad, we should learn their culture and follow them otherwise people would say that we are from another country. Here in my city there are many people who do less work but they want to collect their salary on time.
A lot of cheating too takes place but i adjust to these situations and stay. I also heard that some people from other countries are rude but it is hard to believe all these things.
@liquorice (3887)
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12 Jul 12
That made me laugh about the ice. (Sorry!) When I went to America I was shocked that every drink I ordered was so packed with ice, without me even asking for it! I hate ice in my drink as it dilutes it, and it hurts my throat. So having a drink that was mostly ice was not good for me... Luckily here you do usually only get it if you ask for it.
And when I lived in France I experienced cheek kissing on a daily basis! I was at uni there and every morning my friends and I would greet one another with "kiss, kiss, kiss". It seemed extremely formal at first, and then when I came home to the UK it seemed strange not to do it.
So a lot of things you hear about customs in other countries may well be true, even if they sound a bit strange! And with our lack of knowledge about other cultures, and the lack of context that sometimes causes, they are bound to sometimes be misunderstood.
The annoying thing is when people stereotype about different cultures. Like if somebody meets one disagreeable person from a certain country and then assumes that all people from that country are like that too. Or if they blindly believe the 'common stereotypes', like how all British people have bad teeth, all French people are rude, or all Americans are fat.
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@celticeagle (168114)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Jul 12
Now days with such easy access to the media we can see alot of different cultures and day-to-day things taking place in real time in other countries that we wouldn't have been able to years ago. You spoke about France and people greeting one another by kissing on both cheaks. THey do that here in the US. American women being weak? Yes, it would have to do with courtesy and manners and character. I wounder about the treatment of women in Africa and India and such. I have heard some horrid stories.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
12 Jul 12
The double cheek kiss thing is European and so it is also done here in Australia, what with the Greek and Italian immigrants after the second world war. The traditions are passed on of course and when I was going with a Cypriot it was natural for all family members to greet each other this way and it was how I was greeted too. Same deal several years later when I married an Italian.
It's a custom I love.
@celticeagle (168114)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Jul 12
Yes. It seems to be a high foluting society tradition. There are some I just don't care to kiss, cheek or other wise. lol
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
2 Jul 12
we like our man to RESPECT us in america, not treat us like second best. thats what china may not realise. i knew about the ice in england because a client i had used to talk about such things different in her travels. but id never heard about the kisses on the cheeks in france
@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
1 Jul 12
hi dear Ambie, its true that the French greet each other with kisses on the cheek but they are no real kisses. Rather their cheeks touch and the kisses are blown into the air.
I know cause my aunt has been teaching French and has been to France several times. She even studied in Paris for two terms or so as she had a grant.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
2 Jul 12
BTW I have a male penpal in France, this penpal friendship lasts for about 20 years now, we have never met in person but if I ever got to Strasbourg where he lives now to meet him I would not be any embarrassed if he greets me this way.......
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@sylvia13 (1850)
• Nelson Bay, Australia
2 Jul 12
Yes, it's true many people kiss each other on both cheeks and it is not only in France that it is done, but here in Austria too! Actually, it is not really a kiss, but I would just call it a peck! In Latin America people only do it in just one cheek and that is the way I like it!
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
2 Jul 12
Maybe If I will visit one of the country I would research first many info about their cultures. And one of them ask mylot friends who lives on the country.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
2 Jul 12
I don't know about England or France but I do know that Germany is tight with ice in drinks and they don't give any ice unless the person requests it. They're very derogatory about American's going over there and expecting the same thing as it's done in America. You wouldn't think a simple thing as ice would cause such a stir but it does. Every country is different which is why I'm fearful of visiting any of them other than my own because I'm not into breaking any laws. Did you know in China, it's illegal to chew gum?! I read that somewhere and liked to have fell over! Nothing like the good ole US of A!
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
4 Jul 12
I don't think I wonder if what I hear is true, but that is because what I hear about other countries is usually from my friends who were either born in or have lived in those countries. I have a lot of international friends and so some of their experiences are ones they have in common.
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@ryanong (9665)
• Vietnam
2 Jul 12
I used to get an experience when i traveled in china. 10 days, i had no coffee for drink since i am a big coffee drinker...finally we walk to find a coffee shop..but we couldn't see it. Finally we were back to the hotel and took drink in the first floor.
I order ice milk coffee, but in there they don't have ice to put in coffee. We can speak English but the seller can speak Chinese only. Finally we make coffee by ourselves. We made capuchino coffee and put condensed milk in, of course no ice...because of no ice in the refrigerator...
@else22 (4317)
• India
4 Jul 12
May be.Countries have their own cultures and traditions.I have never been abroad,so have never seen anything.But I have read about strange traditions in different countries.We Indians have our own way of living and it may be strange for a foreigner.For example we don't kiss our spouse in front of our parents or elders or in public,because it is not socially acceptable here.But in western countries it is normal.
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