A very tricky question for Christians.

Amen.

I agree with sk66rc, they are one and the same..

Help! G-d has one message and Jesus another. Which do you follow?

Pose123 pointed out few interesting points... First, accepting Jesus into our heart as a personal savior isn't that new idea... If you read the bible, it implies Holy Spirit was there from the beginning... Bible scholars believe that the Holy Spirit is same as "God's Words"... Whole universe is made solely by God's words alone... When our heart is touched by Holy Spirit, or Holy Ghost, all intents & purposes, we don't really need bible... Bible is used as a tool to teach the ways of Christianity... So yeah, we can accept God into our heart & it's been done so from way before Jesus even came to this world... 2nd, as far as our everyday actions go... Let's say you got a throat cancer for smoking too much for so long... Some how, either my medicine or surgery, you are cured of that cancer... It doesn't mean you wanna go right back to smoking again... I've heard so many ex-smokers that can't stand the smell of smokes anymore... They just don't have any desire to go back to smoking... Being saved is almost same, I think... It's not weather you can go back to the way you were before being saved... Of course you're free to do whatever you want... It's just that people who have been saved wouldn't feel desired to go back to the way they were... In fact, that's the whole point of growing up, isn't it? We do things when we are young kids... Now thinking back on it, sometimes we say to ourselves, "what the heck was I thinking?"... If people are truly saved, they truly wouldn't want to go back to the way they were... For good works, bible does say to go out & do good works... I don't understand what's there to not understand... Matthew 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine Before others, so that they see your good works and give glory to your father who is in heaven"... Ephesians 2:8-9 "For grace you have been saved through faith? And this is not your doing; it is gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast"... These 2 phrases imply that though it's not through good work that you are saved but it's only through faith & grace of God that saves us... At the same time, as a saved Christian, you should act accordingly & do good work so that people may see what Christians do & see what's its like to be Christian...

Exactly! Leave being Jewish to me. I'll leave being Christian to you. Ok Thanks.

And if heaven is all about G-d Or Jesus , then those who care less Shouldn't go in the first place.

Yes. Out would be like buying someone a brand new house and having them give you no credit or reelect you would be mad which I think is why people who do not believe end up in the bad place

" Your faith has made you whole" I wonder if He would be happy that my path doesn't lead to Him? My faith has made me whole ! As for baptism, I am not messing up my hair For No One, lol! i think the message had to change to get more to join. Once Romans became Christians, popes took the place of Caesars and That is why Jesus Had to become more Churchy. I used to believe that if He Came down now dressed the way He did the last time ,He wouldn't even be able to enter All the Churches that have His name on the building! Worse He would be arrested for disturbing the peace or sent to the mental hospital. Who Needs the Real thing when we All have the image?

Why thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

hi srb! i think you are absolutely spot on about jesus and the modern organized church...if they met in a dark alley, so to speak, they probably wouldn't even recognize each other! i have done some research into the historical jesus and the early church and think of it as "the real church" as today's church in general does not resemble it in any way! thanks for the discussion, very thoughtprovoking!

That's right. Only God knows who is going to be accept on Judgement Day. You're only hope is to follow his rules and all and if you do...you'll be in the running for a spot in heaven! Trust me...there are ALOT of people that think they will be in heaven...and they will get turned away from heaven's door. there are alot of people that be there that we wouldn't think should be or won't be there that we would think should be. Just saying you are a christian, doesn't hold you a spot in heaven.

I agree , no one know who will go to heaven & who won't . God Almighty only the one Who know that .

So if that is the case, you must also believe G-d's birth to virgin Mary and all other stuff a Trinitarian christian believes.

Yes and no. I believe any G-d can come down or through anything or anyone He chooses. So if they say Mary is/was a virgin, I say ok. But I don't fully understand this trinity thing. It seems like three in one when I believe there is One that comes in many forms , not just three!

To me He is. Let me put it this way. There is one Superior Being. He takes many forms and answers to many names. To the Christian He is Jesus, to the Jew He is G-d. To the Muslim , He is Allah.For me He isn't Jesus, He is G-d. Different versions have different rules. But because Jesus is not my G-d Does not mean I deny Who He is to many!

Ok If believing in Jesus Doesn't make any difference , what does?

#carmelanirel: Loved the response. I am tempted to follow this on the discussion. #behen: you know I am neither a Christian nor do believe in any religion but one - Humanity. And also I dont respond to religion discussions. But for your query - I have a simpler view - Lord of any religion - never says follow me and pray. I believe He always appreciate people who do their thing with complete honesty and sincerity. And the actions should not hurt any on the planet. ps. that is just my viewpoint - I an neither a Christian nor have read the Holy Bible from page 1 till end.

Hi Bhai! I love your viewpoint. I'm sorry I worded my post in a way that made you think you couldn't respond to it!

I disagree. one should ask questions and learn all you can. Not only will you get to see How a person of another religion sees things but I find it enhances your own religion.

Then I am damned to hell. There no way I can love All Just like He did. The main reason I say I am not a Christian is because I don't love my enemies.

Well, I think you are not the only one who doesn't love their enemies. I recognize that I don't forgive offenses too. I think it's not easy, but we should try it. Furthermore, when I see that someone is my enemy, that he hates me, I try to avoid to be hurt by him. We have to defend us.

Wow Sis! That is beautiful. so the people , regardless of religion, that G-d Wants in heaven, Get there.That is fantastic.

Thank you. "We" as humans we are not prefect and why would god judge us because we aren't prefect. We all make mistakes and I feel that he gets that and still accepts us for who we are even when we mess up.