Is Karma valid?

@savypat (20216)
United States
July 8, 2012 12:27pm CST
I do believe in the laws of Karma, what goes around, comes around. But I do not agree with those who will look at others who are going through bad times in this life and say, They deserve it, it's Karma. No matter who you are, none of us knows the whole story and so if you see others in distress and you are able to help, do not turn away under the excuse of Karma. Remember Karma is part of all of us and what we do is what rules our lives, others are an opportunity to increase your own good Karma. Blessings
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
9 Jul 12
If Karma is the innate desire to be better,to be bigger, to desire and to grow, and to look at past events as a measure of that, then, yes, karma does exist. But it does not require anything. Nothing is ever required. You are, as you always have been, a being of free choice. (taken from "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch.)
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@urbandekay (18278)
9 Jul 12
A cruel and evil doctrine all the best urban
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
9 Jul 12
In my understanding Karma is considered a natural law that rules many lives. If we can accept this then at least we have some knowledge of why our lives are as they are. This allows us to see the lessons and to get beyond the results of the past. I have read Neale Donald Walsch, in fact I have read his writing several times, but I felt uneasy, because I am a why person. If there is a power that overlooks the human race and if as you stated 'NOTHING IS REQUIRES" why are we here? Are we nothing more than the pawns in a game of the Gods, we are developed and destroy ourselves over and over again for their entertainment? That idea insults my ego for sure.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
9 Jul 12
The problem here is that earthly beings see love as having conditions, while Godly love is unconditional (entirely without conditions.) God's love is Absolute. Absolute love requires absolutely Nothing in return! The one purpose of life is that you, and all that lives, experience the fullest glory. Everything else you think, or say, is attendant to that function. There is nothing else for your soul to do, and nothing else that your soul wants to do.
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@urbandekay (18278)
8 Jul 12
Let us first draw a distinction between those two concepts which we might refer to as genuine karma and popular karma In genuine karma the actions and motives thereof in a previous life are thought to determine conditions in this one. Since I am largely the sum of my experiences and choices such a idea is evil. That I should be punished or rewarded for actions taken by another is abhorrent. Only an evil deity could endorse such. It is a system invented by the rich and powerful to justify their oppression of the weak and poor and keep millions in near slavery in India Popular karma; what goes around comes around is just palpably false to anyone with open eyes all the best urban
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
9 Jul 12
Are you saying that it's all a matter of luck. Being in the right place at the wrong time? Of course none of this is proven. But I do think it makes an interesting discussion. Thanks
@urbandekay (18278)
9 Jul 12
Are you saying that nothing happens by chance? Our lives are all predetermined, just a sad puppet dance? all the best urban
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
10 Jul 12
I think if we could look at the whole dance we would see the pattern, that is if karma exists at all. If it doesn't than everything is controlled by others or it's all open to chance. One way or another it's enough to give me a headache. Thanks
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Jul 12
Karma is not called by that name by everyone but I believe in the concept. I believe that what you do comes back to you. If you do bad things they come back painfully--for instance, if you go spread gossip about someone and it causes them to lose their job the same thing might not happen to you but to your child or someone else that you love. Bad comes back worse. The good things won't come back right away but when you least expect them and probably not from the person you helped. I have had both good and bad come back to me. I would never say that someone deserves something bad--or, I try not to!--but when bad things happen you can invite good into your life by helping them. Perhaps that happened to them in order to make you aware that you have obligations to your fellow humans and if you ignore it you might find yourself in the same situation down the road with no one to help.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
9 Jul 12
So now a new result is thrown into this discussion. My actions can result in harm not only to myself but also to my family and friends. First question here is how did they become my family? I know that friends have a choice but does family, does an unborn being chose it's family? Some belive this is so. How much power do actions have? I have read beliefs that souls travel through lives in groups. This could be an explaination of how we influence each other? If that is so I have many I will meet again, some I will look forward to others i will hope I am much wiser when I do. Blessings
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
12 Jul 12
Though I don't really know that bad karma is something that will follow you through your life and I never think that it is karma when something bad happens to a person. However, I honestly do believe in good karma. I've always been the kind of person that tries to do good for other people. The main reason that I do that is because I feel like it is the right thing to do. However, I also always hope that there might be someone that will help me out if there is a time in my life where I am down on my luck.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
12 Jul 12
Well if you believe in good karma, or lets call it positive energy then it cannot be to big a step to believe in bad karma, or negative energy. Myself I think these energies are more a law of nature rather then some God sitting in judgement of all human activities. Thanks for your input
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
8 Jul 12
I do believe in Karma too. I was cheated by my ex before, and I hope that she deserve her karma one day, to see how it feels to be betrayed, and be treated like dirt. I also be scammed by a friend in business, and I hope that he will deserve what he will get one day. Also I was being betrayal. I wish those karma can be instant, because most of them aren't good people after all.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
9 Jul 12
If Karma is true than someone who cheated you may already be working on her Karma, we just don't know enough to judge. What I mean is she may have been cheated on in the past and had not forgiveness for the one who cheated her, now she has to live a life as a cheater to understand the lessons of being in that position. I am not saying this is true, I am only guessing that these situations are much more complicated then how we see them. If you stop and think about this, I think you will see just how complex human relations can become, then throw in many lives and I for one am glad I am not the one keeping tract of all this. Maybe it's all on a computer program Thanks
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
3 Aug 12
I have never just looked at someone and said they deserve anything. But I did say it about a few people in my life. And thats because I know or knew the entire story and or history of the person. And believe me, a few of those people truly do deserve it. And I do believe it will come around and bite them in the @ss. I have seen it happen time and again. So I am just waiting. And one of those people just happen to be my evil ex. She deserves everything she gets. As long as my children are safe.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
4 Aug 12
I know that you and your Ex have a hate relationship and of course I can make no judgement here, but I wish to give you something to think about. I spent most of my childhood between two people and the hate they had for each other. No matter how the adults try to cover this up that emotion scars the children, often for the rest of their lives. If you can in anyway let go of the past please do it for your children. Because children are self centered they blame themselvess for what goes wrong in their families. Please tell them over and over again that none of this was their fault. Blessings
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
4 Aug 12
I tell both my children that it is not their fault all the time. What the evil ex says I have no idea. She tells me nothing. And she is a major liar. I always tell the kids that I do not lie, I have nothing to lie about or nothing to hide. I tell them that no matter what the difference between me and their mother, they are no way to blame for any of it. I also know that when they are older they will learn who was the one that broke the family up. And thats okay with me, since it wasn't me. My story never changes. Not like the evil ex. She actually believes her lies and that is sad. Not just for her sick mind, but for the kids. At least I am here to tell the truth.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
11 Jul 12
Oh yes savypat! I agree. There is nothing like daring karma to come and take a bite out of your tail than looking upon someone during rough times and saying something like that!
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@hestylim (1210)
• Indonesia
8 Jul 12
Yes, karma is so valid and I agree that we cannot say that every bad things that happened to people is because of their Karma. We should still help if we are able to help. At least show sympathy to those who are having bad luck. Bad things can happen to them and to us. I believe none of us want people to say "that's your karma" when bad things happen to us.
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@2004cqui (2812)
• United States
8 Jul 12
I don't know about Karma but I believe we reap what we sow. For example; I was the mother from hell when my children were teenagers only to now be put on a pedestal for the things I taught them. Then there are the two grumpy elderly people living on both sides of us. I notice we get far more company at our house. Hmmmmmm!?
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@devijay78 (1573)
• India
22 Jul 12
Hi. In India, we do believe in Karma and past life. Whatever you go through this life, it is the result of your actions in the past life, whether good or bad. Your karma is decided on how much and what kind of sin you have committed in the past life. If you had done something which would have hurt a lot of people, then you would definitely suffer in this life for that. But the truth lies in understanding this and leading a good life and accepting what happens is because of the sins comitted in the past. And striving not to commit more sins this life, thinking of God and helping others would greatly dissolve your sins and get you a good future in this life itself. This is what I read in a spiritual book and I believe it strongly too. Good day.
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@fannitia (2167)
• Bulgaria
8 Jul 12
I'm not a specialist in karma but I believe that your actions have consequences for you - in this or the next life. I believe also that the map of our life was outlined before. But we can change some things for the good or for the bad and "as we brew so we must drink". Yes, it's better to help others as much as we can. And we can expect the same. Be happy.
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• Bangladesh
8 Jul 12
What an extra ordinary words you have brother! Here is your plus rating. I have to do good karma for my own emancipation and you have to do good karma for your own emancipation and its human. Stay well
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